Bluepower Blower release imminent..... - Page 2

AGRO · 24-04-2007, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Wokkas

Would a 2.8L Kenne Bell version fit?

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Yes, but they cost more $$$ for the compressor unit.
Just about any supercharger can be fitted to this manifold.
However, if the replacement compressor is much more wider than the 2.6lt KB, then you will have to modify the fuel rail, or replace with aftermarket one. The KB 2.8 big bore will fit no probs, but even the 2.6 KB used on this kit is hardly working!!!!!
To help keep costs down, the kit utilizes as many standard components as possible.
Also, the top of this KB blower is actually lower than the standard intake manifold. Once again, if you decide to replace the supercharger with one that is much higher, you may need to modify the bonnet. The point here, is the manifold will accept just about anything. Making it fit under the bonnet ''MAY'' be the issue.

Hope this answers a few queries.

Regards

AGRO.

**Bluepower** · 24-04-2007, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Wokkas

Would a 2.8L Kenne Bell version fit?

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Yes, bolts straight on, but a BA will not handle it.

Will try to post some video today.

Wokkas · 24-04-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluepower

Yes, bolts straight on, but a BA will not handle it.

What part of the BA won't handle it? I'd rather see a larger displacement head unit doing less revs, than a small one spun up to buggery (like the YT toy).

XRQTOR · 24-04-2007, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Wokkas

What part of the BA won't handle it? I'd rather see a larger displacement head unit doing less revs, than a small one spun up to buggery (like the YT toy).

Man these things arn't stressed at 2olb's, i'll bet 1% of kits sold will see this sort of boost. The amount of power they make is crazy.

CSV_LS1 · 24-04-2007, 01:20 PM

Just wondering what sort of HP it takes to spin these blowers?

Great kit btw. Can't wait to hear the whine :sm_headba

**Bluepower** · 24-04-2007, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CSV_LS1

Just wondering what sort of HP it takes to spin these blowers?

Great kit btw. Can't wait to hear the whine :sm_headba

Im not sure how to measure it, but there is INSTANT tyresmoke in all gears in our test cars, so if its dragging power, cannot feel it.

**Bluepower** · 24-04-2007, 02:11 PM

Wokkas

The 2.8 is only good if you are going to run it at 20 plus pounds, less boost makes them a little inefficient. (logged data shows.)

The 2.6 will still destroy any driveline currently availible. If someone proves me wrong when they buy my kit and build an "unbreakable" driveline, i'll upgrade them to the 2.8 and i'll absorb the price difference. The difference between the 2.3 whipple and 2.6 KB is bigger than you guys think.

XRQTOR · 24-04-2007, 03:05 PM

Get out of the toilet and put it away and hurry the ****** up and post some video.

XRQTOR · 24-04-2007, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluepower

Wokkas

The 2.8 is only good if you are going to run it at 20 plus pounds, less boost makes them a little inefficient. (logged data shows.)

The 2.6 will still destroy any driveline currently availible. If someone proves me wrong when they buy my kit and build an "unbreakable" driveline, i'll upgrade them to the 2.8 and i'll absorb the price difference. The difference between the 2.3 whipple and 2.6 KB is bigger than you guys think.

Whats that free blower kit if it can't break the drivline............

Wokkas · 24-04-2007, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluepower

Wokkas

The 2.8 is only good if you are going to run it at 20 plus pounds, less boost makes them a little inefficient. (logged data shows.)

Yeah, I understand the principle of that with the twin screws. Would it be possible to bolt an Eaton on like the M122 or bigger to your intercooler? I think for my sort of driving style a large displacement roots blower running lower psi is what I'm after.

Also Chris, How many belts have you got runnning the accessories?

Cheers, Jimmy

Wokkas · 24-04-2007, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluepower

The 2.6 will still destroy any driveline currently availible. If someone proves me wrong when they buy my kit and build an "unbreakable" driveline, i'll upgrade them to the 2.8 and i'll absorb the price difference. The difference between the 2.3 whipple and 2.6 KB is bigger than you guys think.

Yeah, no worries. I wasn't sure before if you meant that the driveline wouldn't take it, or it would destroy the chassis. I don't mind mechanical things breaking so much, but I don't want to buckle my body. I remember when you showed me your old blue ute

jabba · 24-04-2007, 06:44 PM

Great work Chris... Videos are a must, so hurry up... My mind boggles to think what sort of ET and MPH you will rip out with this kit under your bonnet....

Do you think a 9sec is achievable

Blower and motor for 20k is awesome value and very cheap for the amount of HP your getting... One question tho, it that for a intercooled version or non intercooled.....

bonspeed · 24-04-2007, 07:02 PM

How the hell do I get one of these?
Do I pull the motor and crate it to you guys or send the whole car down?

FPV8U · 24-04-2007, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jabba

Great work Chris... Videos are a must, so hurry up... My mind boggles to think what sort of ET and MPH you will rip out with this kit under your bonnet....

Do you think a 9sec is achievable

Blower and motor for 20k is awesome value and very cheap for the amount of HP your getting... One question tho, it that for a intercooled version or non intercooled.....

With 600Rwkw potential i'd say thats intercooled :sm_headba

Chris said in another thread a while back that his kit Incooled kit was going to retail for the same or less as the oppositions Kits with no cooler, he seems to have come through with his promise, which is great as it makes this whole P/D supercharger thing affordable for more people and it looks to be a kit better that the others out there...Hows that for a one two punch!

WASP · 24-04-2007, 08:09 PM

Great work Chris. The blower kits for the BOSS only appear to be getting better and the price looks excellent as well. Well done to all those involved.

Colville

ratter · 24-04-2007, 11:47 PM

Very Very interesting :Up_to_som

This kit sounds like it might be the ticket to some powerfull Boss's

ORSMF6 · 25-04-2007, 01:42 AM

Hummm .. there might be a typhoon for sale now ....

Nothing like the pull on a blown V8 and that sound of the S/C .. i will never forget that day watching u at my old work..

ALS008 · 25-04-2007, 01:40 PM

Hey Chris, this is awesome to see. Cant wait to see it hitting the steets. If what you say about the price being less than 20k for a built motor and charger this would definately be something i would have to consider very seriously

XRQTOR · 27-04-2007, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ORSMF6

Hummm .. there might be a typhoon for sale now ....

Nothing like the pull on a blown V8 and that sound of the S/C .. i will never forget that day watching u at my old work..

Might be, go for a spin in one and see if you can say that again.

ALS008 · 27-04-2007, 08:22 PM

Hey Chris,

Would this kit be available for the 3v engines also?? Just curious to know??

XRQTOR · 27-04-2007, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ALS008

Hey Chris,

Would this kit be available for the 3v engines also?? Just curious to know??

Just sell Craig your 3v engine and buy one of the Boss engines iv'e got, it's a win win situation.

AGRO · 27-04-2007, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CSV_LS1

Just wondering what sort of HP it takes to spin these blowers?

Great kit btw. Can't wait to hear the whine :sm_headba

At around 10lb Boost, it uses approx 33hp to drive. (25kw)
A Roots Blower at same Boost level, uses around 48hp to drive. (36kw)
Hope this helps.

Regards

AGRO.

Jason50 · 27-04-2007, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AGRO

At around 10lb Boost, it uses approx 33hp to drive. (25kw)
A Roots Blower at same Boost level, uses around 48hp to drive. (36kw)
Hope this helps.

Regards

AGRO.

Wow, that is great efficency. That extra 10KW for the roots blower would just about all go into heating the intake air charge. No thanks !

Not to mention much less chance of belt slip and more KW @ the wheels for free.

I have now lost all interest in turboing the BOSS.

baboon · 27-04-2007, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason50

Wow, that is great efficency. That extra 10KW for the roots blower would just about all go into heating the intake air charge. No thanks !

Not to mention much less chance of belt slip and more KW @ the wheels for free.

I have now lost all interest in turboing the BOSS.

Never lose interest man! Especially the BOSS

Jason50 · 27-04-2007, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by baboon

Never lose interest man! Especially the BOSS

Hi Baboon, I have only gained interest in the BOSS

I just don't think I need a pair of hair dryers for it anymore.

XRQTOR · 29-04-2007, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason50

Hi Baboon, I have only gained interest in the BOSS

I just don't think I need a pair of hair dryers for it anymore.

Wait till you see the tqe line on these things, why would you ever want a turbo.

jabba · 29-04-2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AGRO

At around 10lb Boost, it uses approx 33hp to drive. (25kw)
A Roots Blower at same Boost level, uses around 48hp to drive. (36kw)
Hope this helps.

Regards

AGRO.

Good info...

Just curious,, How did you work that out???

Jason50 · 29-04-2007, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by XRQTOR

Wait till you see the tqe line on these things, why would you ever want a turbo.

Well, originally I wanted to go turbo since these motor have a very definate limit of output power before they pop and I can't afford to rebuild the motor or have the car off the road at the moment.

A turbo should give more RWKW for a given stress on the motor since it is not taking power directly from the crank to drive. Now for 15KW or whatever the blue power blower takes at 6PSI I just don't care about turbos anymore.

From what I have heard with a turbo full boost from around 2000RPM should have a very good torque curve too. Having an auto I would never be out of the 'zone'.

**Chris** · 29-04-2007, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jabba

Good info...

Just curious,, How did you work that out???

Dont be curious. Curiosity killed the cat lol

Paul and I spent countless hours switching from 1.8 Eaton to 2.3 whipple, to 2.6 Kenne Bell on one of our test cars. Various boost levels, and we were able to run same boost on each charger, controlled test conditions. All our power differences were recorded.

This is just a small piece of the hundreds of hours of data we have logged. All our work and knowledge that we speak of here is brought to you by all that hard work.

Hard work pays off mate, wait until one of these things see's the strip, if we can keep it straight lol

Craig · 29-04-2007, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ALS008

Hey Chris,

Would this kit be available for the 3v engines also?? Just curious to know??

At this stage NO, the market is just not there to tool up. If there were say 10 3V owners interested then maybe YES but economics say the BOSS is the only way to go.

Cheers Craig