My Boot Install - Page 2

ROOSTA · 30-12-2006, 12:11 AM

hmm.. I see.. you deal with the Jaycar dealer.. the shep 'jaycar' as you say is not actually a jaycar store.. they jus order in from the catalogue.. thats why my ears pricked up when you said that jaycar was going to remove it for you as any repair like that is against jaycar rules..

Have you reverse phased the subs you have reverse mounted.. if not then the 2 normal mounted will cancel out the 2 reverse mounted and whole lot will sound like a 8"..

Also, i can see the 2 side boxes are ported but wat bout the back one is it ported or sealed??

Looking good though.. Definately on the way..

Cheers,
Nik

reded · 30-12-2006, 11:06 AM

ah ok yeah i think they are just a jaycar stockist maybe. oh ok so have you removed the sonic beep from your capasators Nik?

about that.. how do i reverse phase the subs because as you just said the reversed 2 subs are not going anywere near as hard as they should be... so how do i phase them?

the back box is sealed as i baught it fom autobarn way back when i was only going to have 2 subs..

thanks man.

cheers troy

CaRtZ · 30-12-2006, 12:38 PM

that store is called "Chips and Bits" and yeah they just order jaycar stuff... alot of jaycar stuff

wot amps u runnin troy? where u mount them?

also my personal opinon is ported boxes suck ar$e!

reded · 30-12-2006, 02:53 PM

ah ok i've never known the name of the store but now i do thanks pat.

oh i've got a 640W 4ch amp running the back 2 subs and that behind the back seat mounted on the back of the box. and a 750W 4ch running the side 2 subs wich is behind te box on the right hand side of the boot.

yeah i thoug i'd port the side ones just to see how it sounded and it sounded great so i left it at that.

cheers troy

DEVL-XR · 30-12-2006, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaRtZ

that store is called "Chips and Bits" and yeah they just order jaycar stuff... alot of jaycar stuff

wot amps u runnin troy? where u mount them?

also my personal opinon is ported boxes suck ar$e!

whats wrong with ported boxes? i have a sealed box and my mates is ported and his sounds like the bass lasts longer.

reded · 30-12-2006, 03:03 PM

yeah im not sure if its just me or not but i think the ported box's bass sounds to be longer and less sharp as a sealed box but im no pro...

cheers troy

Simmo · 30-12-2006, 03:16 PM

i've just got my gear all together too. 2x Kenwood KFC W3009 subs in separate sealed boxes, and a brand new Jaycar Response 800W Monoblock amp to run 350w through each sub.

reded · 30-12-2006, 03:26 PM

good setup there mate will crank when in.
those jaycar amps are bloody awsome!! im thinkin of upgrading and gettin two of them myself.

cheers troy

Simmo · 30-12-2006, 03:42 PM

have you seen the new 1500w linkable units? can link 2 for 3000wrms!!

reded · 30-12-2006, 03:44 PM

yeah i was in there this morning looking at them! nice but verry expensive:(

CaRtZ · 30-12-2006, 04:47 PM

i got the same amp as Simmo has. gives me 135dB in a sealed box.

my brother had 1 10" in a sealed box. sounded really really good. when he upgraded to 2 12" in ported box..... well it just aint the same. and yes he got a bigger amp too.

i cut holes for ports, sat down and listened to it. and covered the holes. sealed boxes give good vibrations and great sound. ported just give the sound.

just wot i think

reded · 30-12-2006, 05:42 PM

yeah they jaycar amps are legendary tho nothing beats them. wish i had some of them.
ah ok yeah pat everyone has there own opinion on ports just up the the idividual i guess. im still undecided about ports either....

ROOSTA · 31-12-2006, 12:14 AM

Hey,

Yer i gave my 2 2farad caps a "buzzectomy".. i have also done it for a few mate.. its very easy if ya have a soldering iron and 15 mins..

To reverse phase either use the phase control on your amp that runs the 2 side subs or simply switch there terminals around..

So for example in your car to wire all the subs "in-phase" would require you to have the ones in the kenwood box wired up + to +, - to -, and the 2 side subs would get wired + to -, - to +.. Worth a try.. it may improve the bass response of the subs.. but then again you have got the 2 side boxes firing at each other so you may get cancellation of sound just from that..

Oh and as for the age-old debate "ported vs. sealed".. it is one of those personal preference things but i myself have converted from being a ported pansy to being a sealed sissy.. lol.. generally in a sealed enclosure you require twice the power to achieve the same "loudness" as the same driver in a ported box.. but with sealed you do et that awesome punch rather than a fluffy fart..

Cheers,
Nik

reded · 31-12-2006, 04:00 PM

thanks for that Nik yer i got rid of the beep myself with the soldering iron yesterday

oh so just to clarafy.... on the subs put the + to the - terminals?? and it might sound better? because they arn't throwing very good...:(

yeah just personal choise i chose it to see if it is ok and well it good enough for me.

cheers troy

EFDream · 31-12-2006, 04:09 PM

nice effort....wish I had the patience and knowledge to do that!

CaRtZ · 31-12-2006, 04:09 PM

yeah for reversed subs hook em up the "wrong" way around. when u do this they will move toward the boot lid instead of into the box. my mate had to do this in his supra. has 3 mounted normally and 2 reversed. he showed me the difference and its noticible... to me anyway.

old_mate · 31-12-2006, 04:11 PM

reded sorry if its stated above but do u have all boxes the same volume with the same port sizes and tuning frequencies?

CaRtZ · 31-12-2006, 04:20 PM

lol no. his back one is pre fab & sealed. i very much doubt they will be of same volume. i doubt he will ever get them sounding exactly the same as he is using 2 different lots of subs and 2 different amps in different boxes

ROOSTA · 31-12-2006, 05:27 PM

When i said reverse it i mean run the + on the sub to the - on the amp and vice versa.. rather than + on sub to + on amp and vice versa.. easiest way to do it is just swap the wires on each reversed sub around..

Cheers,
Nik

CaRtZ · 01-01-2007, 12:38 PM

yeah thats wot i meant.....

reded · 01-01-2007, 04:34 PM

ah thanks for the help Nik and Pat will go out and do it now. hopefuly will sound a hell of a lot better

and more updates...

i did some more carpeting yestarday just put new carpet on the dual sub box...nearly there now...

OH and old mate: the 2 side boxes are the same size but the back one is not as pat has said its pre fab..

cheers troy

old_mate · 01-01-2007, 07:01 PM

mmmm...i'd be interested to hear how it sounds. You'll be having some pretty different frequency response curves going on there..

CaRtZ · 01-01-2007, 07:06 PM

yeah hows it sound now troy? any better atleast?

reded · 01-01-2007, 07:58 PM

well it didnt sound too bad at all before i reverse phased the subs sounded good.
ah not sure pat havent turned it up (damn neinours and parents crack it when it goes up) :(
so i'll have to wait to find out soon...

CaRtZ · 01-01-2007, 08:32 PM

i gettin my p's in like 2 weeks. we take it for a cruise!
i have the same problem with the nieghbour. "OI! u gunna turn that down? cant hear me friggen tv!"

reded · 01-01-2007, 08:44 PM

oooh nice man good luck for your test!! i've still got 3 months til i get mine:(
yeah well its mainly my old man having a go at me for having it so loud "it rattles the house" he says. well i know it rattles the carport

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CaRtZ · 01-01-2007, 09:45 PM

thanks man... better get some driving lessons first! lol

reded · 02-01-2007, 08:03 AM

hahaha yeah that might be good befor your test. lol

reded · 08-01-2007, 08:31 PM

well just thought i'd post of the finished result of all my hard work, finished off a few bits on the weekend, false box tops and corner wedges to cover the holes hope you like my boot install......

cheers troy

[Tonko] · 08-01-2007, 08:37 PM

Looks the goods troy, gotta be happy with that.
Whats next on the mod list? lowering
Hows it sound aswell?