KIA - Would you buy one? - Page 2

MercuryT · 07-06-2020, 03:37 PM

Yeah the option prices (on things that should be standard) on German cars are insane.

My Dad bought an Audi A4 about 7 years ago (now my sisters) and rrp 75K or so and optioned up over 100K drive away!!

Bought a Lexus after and no options needed - it had everything a car at that price should and more.

jpd80 · 07-06-2020, 04:53 PM

I gotta say that I was quite impressed by the evolution of Sportage and Sorrento, while they may not be
my first choice in SUVs, I'd have no problem recommending either one to people on a tight budget.

If you look at Hyundai / Kia as two sales channels of the same company, the Koreans have done a
magnificent job of wrestling what I'd call the meat of the market away from the Japanese brands.
Holden and Ford have already fallen on their swords but Mazda, Honda, Mitsubishi and Nissan
have all felt the Koreans draining their sales....Toyota less affected of course, strong buyer loyalty.

Yellow_Festiva · 07-06-2020, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberWasp

Speaking of Telluride why isn't it sold here. What is it with the USA not wanting to export LHD. I think it would sell well here.

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Palisade is apparently coming before the end of the year but the Hyundai site has no mention of it in the 'Coming soon' section.

If they were smart they would offer it in 8 seats like they do in the US.

Nearest rival is the Patrol - and it's around roughly $25k more.

Starting at around $50k it would be a good buy. The extra seat will give it a point of difference over the Santa Fe as well.

MercuryT · 07-06-2020, 05:16 PM

I remember driving an early Hyundai Excel as used to do paper run (20 years ago - work car)

Honestly it was shockingly bad in every way....ha

How times have changed.......

Bossxr8 · 07-06-2020, 05:31 PM

The stinger is the only interesting car they have, and it has sold fairly poorly, and they are saying it won’t make it to a second generation. It will get a mild facelift in a year or 2 and that will be it. Goneski.

arronm · 07-06-2020, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MercuryT

I remember driving an early Hyundai Excel as used to do paper run (20 years ago - work car)

Honestly it was shockingly bad in every way....ha

How times have changed.......

I sold new Hyundai in 1986. They were heapa of junk. Oil burning engines $10000. Drive away. 2 models if i remember

MercuryT · 07-06-2020, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by arronm

I sold new Hyundai in 1986. They were heapa of junk. Oil burning engines $10000. Drive away. 2 models if i remember

Yeah Ok.

I genuinely felt unsafe driving it.

Was good on fuel so I'll give it that!

CyberWasp · 07-06-2020, 05:48 PM

Palisade versus Telluride in appearance.
I posted the Telluride earlier and here is the Palisade.
Given they were the same spec and price I would vote Kia all day.

Yellow_Festiva · 07-06-2020, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberWasp

Palisade versus Telluride in appearance.
I posted the Telluride earlier and here is the Palisade.
Given they were the same spec and price I would vote Kia all day.
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Reviews seem to indicate Palisade interior with Telluride body would be ideal.

Like both of them. Telluride styling looks more mature.

danzvtil · 07-06-2020, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lra

So if Hyundai didn't own KIA, they would still be 1990s rubbish ?

Yes, this. The early kias (Ford festivas) were built on Mazda underpinnings, so while the bodies dissolved in the sun, engines were reliable.
My experience with an 01 rio (the one Kia did on their own) was rubbish, so bad I only lasted 1 year with it, it couldn’t be fixed to run properly.
My second was a ‘13 rio now owned by hyundai, it was excellent.
My third just this week is a new sportage company car, it is also excellent. Our QLD reps have had sportages for 3yrs, some up to 200k, and have done nothing other than services, brakes, tyres.
Ignore them at your peril.

Sabantien · 07-06-2020, 07:39 PM

If I was after a sedan again i'd consider a Stinger. I'm after a 4wd next though, so won't be Kia, or Ford for that matter.

Ben73 · 07-06-2020, 08:33 PM

I agree with everyone about the Telluride. It looks awesome and I'd buy one if I was looking for that class of car.

As for the rest of Kia? Yeah, but none of them interest me. I don't even like teh Stinger that much.
There was a lot of hype before they were released, and now you hardly see them driving around.

If my wife wanted a Kia I'd encourage her to buy one. Overall the Koreans are pretty good these days.

**PG2** · 07-06-2020, 08:43 PM

When I met my wife in '94 she had a 12 month old Hyundai Excel.

Everything in it was paper thin and tinny but never had a drama with it. At 100,000k we sold it and bought an EA Falcon as we were expecting our first child.

2 head gaskets in 18 months later...

MercuryT · 07-06-2020, 10:18 PM

I drove the "Hemi" V8 (no idea what it means) as Chrysler 300C.

Wagon option which is rare.

Worst car I've ever driven. Completely terrible.

MercuryT · 07-06-2020, 10:22 PM

My Brother bought the SRT Jeep.

He can have it........build quality just terrible.

KIA much better built.

chevypower · 08-06-2020, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by PG2

When I met my wife in '94 she had a 12 month old Hyundai Excel.

Everything in it was paper thin and tinny but never had a drama with it. At 100,000k we sold it and bought an EA Falcon as we were expecting our first child.

2 head gaskets in 18 months later...

My dad bought an EAII Falcon brand new in 1990. I don’t even think it lasted 2 years before it needed a head gasket. The transmission lost Reverse sometime around then too. I remember going back to President Ford in Elsternwick, and there was another EA parked out the front. It had “This car is a lemon” written all over it, and plastic lemons taped all around. People say “but old Kias and Hyundai’s” were terrible, and forgotten about the reality of other brands.

chevypower · 08-06-2020, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MercuryT

I remember driving an early Hyundai Excel as used to do paper run (20 years ago - work car)

Honestly it was shockingly bad in every way....ha

How times have changed.......

I remember looking at Excels in 1998 (because my 1976 Holden was so reliable and all...), it seamed that era of Excels were about best in class. They had the DOHC 1.5L, and double the power of the Barina (Corsa). Unfortunately I ended up getting a better deal on the Barina. 0-100 in 19 seconds. 33kw. It was a joke.

Yellow_Festiva · 08-06-2020, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by chevypower

I remember looking at Excels in 1998 (because my 1976 Holden was so reliable and all...), it seamed that era of Excels were about best in class. They had the DOHC 1.5L, and double the power of the Barina (Corsa). Unfortunately I ended up getting a better deal on the Barina. 0-100 in 19 seconds. 33kw. It was a joke.

You got the 1.2L one? They were better built but grossly underpowered.

Swing, City and Joy models. If I recall.

Mum had the Swing, 44kw of raw powa!!

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chevypower · 08-06-2020, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

You got the 1.2L one? They were better built but grossly underpowered.

Swing, City and Joy models. If I recall.

Mum had the Swing, 44kw of raw powa!!

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Haha yep. 1.2L single cam. Top speed was 140. I had it pegged from Sydney to Melbourne before all the speed cameras went up. I think it was 8 hours, which included about an hour of all-you-can-eat Pizza Hut stop in Albury. I don’t remember what model it was. But it was a 3-door, 5 speed with no AC. It was purple with some kind of girly decal along the sides. It was terrible on wet roads too. I actually had another Barina years later. A 2005 with a DOHC 1.4. That was a much better car.

chevypower · 08-06-2020, 12:37 AM

I think my 1996 Bounder is quicker than that old Barina! Haha - it won’t let me upload pics.

Yellow_Festiva · 08-06-2020, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by chevypower

Haha yep. 1.2L single cam. Top speed was 140. I had it pegged from Sydney to Melbourne before all the speed cameras went up. I think it was 8 hours, which included about an hour of all-you-can-eat Pizza Hut stop in Albury. I don’t remember what model it was. But it was a 3-door, 5 speed with no AC. It was purple with some kind of girly decal along the sides. It was terrible on wet roads too. I actually had another Barina years later. A 2005 with a DOHC 1.4. That was a much better car.

The older Barina 1.4 reached 156 and it was limited to that and wouldn't go over no matter how hard you tried.

The newer ones had 60kw but still under powered considering the competition was in high 60's to mid 70's kw.

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UTXR8 · 08-06-2020, 06:47 AM

we bought a new Kia Rio sport in 2014 for the wife...6 speed auto...was an excellent little car and didnt rattle and groan like the ford ****bucket forus we traded....traded it 2018 for a vw jetta, ...the jetta is heads and tails better than the Kia, but the Kia was faultless in the 80000 we had it for..

Dr Terry · 08-06-2020, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MercuryT

I remember driving an early Hyundai Excel as used to do paper run (20 years ago - work car)

Honestly it was shockingly bad in every way....ha

How times have changed.......

The early Japanese stuff was considered a bit go a joke too, but by the 70s & 80s they had the market.

It took the Koreans less time to achieve the same.

Now look at the Chinese. Early Great Walls were horrible, but I know some guys who bought Havals & LDVs in the last year & they've noticed a huge improvement

Dr Terry

MercuryT · 08-06-2020, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Terry

The early Japanese stuff was considered a bit go a joke too, but by the 70s & 80s they had the market.

It took the Koreans less time to achieve the same.

Now look at the Chinese. Early Great Walls were horrible, but I know some guys who bought Havals & LDVs in the last year & they've noticed a huge improvement

Dr Terry

Yeah good point.

Have to start somewhere I guess and continue getting better.

The quality of Dad's Lexus is pretty awesome - pricey though

MercuryT · 08-06-2020, 02:54 PM

I think making the Stinger a sedan only was a bad move.

Coupe and wagon should have been built as well. (one for looks, one for versatility with the sedan in the middle)

Yellow_Festiva · 08-06-2020, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MercuryT

I think making the Stinger a sedan only was a bad move.

Coupe and wagon should have been built as well. (one for looks, one for versatility with the sedan in the middle)

Not Kia but Hyundai had a Genesis coupe from 2008 to 2016.

Rwd, turbo 4 or V6 power up to 260kw. Manual and automatic boxes.

Looked pretty good

Saw them being launched in Seoul when I was working there.

They have / had so many more cars I think would have done well in our market.

Shame we are RHD.

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MercuryT · 08-06-2020, 03:43 PM

I didn't realise Koreans were LHD?

Agree with all the rest though for sure YF.

**Burnout** · 08-06-2020, 06:10 PM

I wouldn't buy a Kia, they have nothing that suits my needs.
I even tried to fit meself into one of those 'Stingers'. Sardine Machine....

bathurst77 · 08-06-2020, 07:08 PM

Im on my 2nd cerato

Bought one new in 2014 (My first non ford). I wanted a small cheap car that had lots of fruit. (reverse cam, satnav bluetooth etc). I was doing high milage at the time and knew it would quickly get pretty shabby. The Cerato or i30 were about all that had features i wanted for price i could afford.
Slightly better price and 7 year w/t won it for me.

I was really suprised how much i liked it. It was a really good car. It never let me down til one morning I wrote it off in a serious crash that I shouldnt have walked away from except it had such a strong cage.

When the insurance company told me I could have any car of same value or pay difference I just said "give me another the same" Had that one for about 5 years 85K km. zero faults.. still on original brakes and tyres. No rattles squeaks, nothing broken or not working. And it is nice to drive.

I will keep this til it dies then I will be back down the Kia dealer. Maybe a stonic or seltos..

ozpacman · 08-06-2020, 07:13 PM

Our little i30 diesel which we bought new has just turned over 195,000 kms.

I mentioned on this forum years ago that I would post once it had covered 200,000 and let everyone know how it had fared and what had needed repair/replacement etc.

I'll go through the service records once she clicks over and report back - warts and all.

Damn thing better start giving me problems real quick, otherwise I may not have much to type...