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Old 13-02-2006, 01:35 PM   #31
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This may sound like a stupid little comment , but really it has only just occured to me that if u say u get about 400km for $50 worth of fuel ( not very likelly !..lol , but just say )...... 100,000 km / 400km = 250 refills @ $50 each = $12,500 spent on fuel since owning the car !!!!!!!! ( more if anything !, just rounded it down to those figures roughly ) ..

That's another car in fuel ! - Just proves how darn expensive petrol is :(
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i've nearly hit 1000! lol.
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Just went past 110,000 this morning.

Hopefully very soon I won't be doing 100km a day.
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i've nearly hit 1000! lol.
That would be because this is the AU area and we are talking about AU's.. not BF's : The Bf forums is..... um.... over there.... I think.... ok, you can play with us grown up cars I guess.

All I can say is I hope you get as many trouble free km's from your BF as most of us have gotten from our AU's. The cars have the same DNA so it should go well.
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That would be because this is the AU area and we are talking about AU's.. not BF's : The Bf forums is..... um.... over there.... I think.... ok, you can play with us grown up cars I guess.

All I can say is I hope you get as many trouble free km's from your BF as most of us have gotten from our AU's. The cars have the same DNA so it should go well.
As long as it's better than the Friday Night Special BA i had, i'll he happy ;p


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As long as it's better than the Friday Night Special BA i had, i'll he happy ;p


Cheers for the good wishes.
What can I say.... you "could" have got an AU3 XR6 instead of the BA and probably still had it and been grinning like us nutters. _2:
Still, I cant pick BA's, they are a good car. We look at them as AV's in here anyhow. :hihi:
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Possibly, i was thinking about the AU, it was the shape of the BA which sucked me in, as with most people i guess. The AU just wasn't my cup of tea, although i'm quite fond of the Fairmont in it's trimmings. The one thing i noticed when i drove an AU forte, in comparison with the BA xr6, was the AU seemed more willing and spritely off the line (both auto). Having said that, the shorter first gear in the BF ZF, makes it take off like a rocket, with a claimed 0-100 of 7.4 seconds (independant review). If i'd bought an AU instead of my EL ghia, back in April last year, (yes i've had 3 cars in 9 months :(( ) i probably would still have that today, as if there's one thing AU's are great at, it seems to be reliability/drivablitiy.
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105,000 here. Passed 100,000 kms a few hours into a 7-day holiday down in Gippsland. Rattles come and go, but the exhaust definately changes over time. It's a bit more noticable than say about 30,000 kms ago when I first got it modified.
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I passed the occassion a little while ago.....100'000k of beautiful Tickford Clock Work !!
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thats 100,001 ...lol
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Possibly, i was thinking about the AU, it was the shape of the BA which sucked me in, as with most people i guess. The AU just wasn't my cup of tea, although i'm quite fond of the Fairmont in it's trimmings. The one thing i noticed when i drove an AU forte, in comparison with the BA xr6, was the AU seemed more willing and spritely off the line (both auto). Having said that, the shorter first gear in the BF ZF, makes it take off like a rocket, with a claimed 0-100 of 7.4 seconds (independant review). If i'd bought an AU instead of my EL ghia, back in April last year, (yes i've had 3 cars in 9 months :(( ) i probably would still have that today, as if there's one thing AU's are great at, it seems to be reliability/drivablitiy.
: Comparing a BA XR6 to an AU Forte is a little odd isnt it?. If the Forte felt "spritely" you should have tried an AU XR6... 3.45 diff gears make it MUCH more exciting off the line. Even in stock auto with IRS weight my XR6 was doing 7.4's 0-100 stock.Add the exhaust and it racked up 6.8's pretty easily. Now with histall I'm guessing 6.5's are there for the taking. I'm afraid that the BF 6 speed seems to have put the XR6 in the same 0-100 bracket as the heavy AU VCT XR6's of 1998. I thought the BF was faster :(

Anyhow, its all good. Maybe oneday you will look back and curse yourself buying an EL over the AU.. who knows.
Either way I've has 130,000 kms of happy motoring in mine with only one failure (MAP sensor) and that was just annoying fuel consumption, not a "Breakdown".
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thats 100,001 ...lol
Picky ***** !! lol.........

I noticed while driving she's about to turn over and the next look was 101,
oh well :
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Yeah I was actually thinking 0-100 in 7.4 seconds sounds slow , i haven't timed my car yet, but i could swear my AUII XR6 VCT easilly gets from 0-100 way before 7.4 seconds ! ..... is that the rating for the BF :O ???? , if so that's lame ..
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Bluedriver ..... lmao - I was just 'stiring the pot' so to say ...... if i didn't say it, someone else would have ..lol
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Yeah I was actually thinking 0-100 in 7.4 seconds sounds slow , i haven't timed my car yet, but i could swear my AUII XR6 VCT easilly gets from 0-100 way before 7.4 seconds ! ..... is that the rating for the BF :O ???? , if so that's lame ..
Stock the AU VCT will do 7.4 on a good run. 7.5's and 7.6's are common. About the exact same as a BF 6 speed auto and easily faster than the BA 4 speed autos.
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What can I say.... you "could" have got an AU3 XR6 instead of the BA and probably still had it and been grinning like us nutters. _2:
Still, I cant pick BA's, they are a good car. We look at them as AV's in here anyhow. :hihi:

OR you could of had a smick AU111 250 stroker ute now banished to the for sale site................... : : : : whoosha ...........
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Casper ....wow ! - i didnt realise these newer models were so slow ! . whats the go there do you know ?? ...seems to be pointless having a 6 speed auto if the thing doesn't go any faster !, sounds to me like the 6 speed auto would be constantlly changing gears , couldn't be a good thing for an auto over time ! .
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Casper ....wow ! - i didnt realise these newer models were so slow ! . whats the go there do you know ?? ...seems to be pointless having a 6 speed auto if the thing doesn't go any faster !, sounds to me like the 6 speed auto would be constantlly changing gears , couldn't be a good thing for an auto over time ! .
Its not that the BA or BF XR6's are slow, far from it. If you want some fun 0-100 line up an auto Holden SV6 and watch his face turn to goo as you destroy him. He might get you on the 1/4 but 0-100 hes toast.. AU, BA or BF XR6 will maul him.

The AU XR6.. in fact all the XR6's.. are jsut quick cars relatively speaking. Not BA XR8 or VX SS quick of course but certainly 5.0L Ford or Holden quick. Think you hurt the SV6 owners feelings? Try it with a VR/VS Clubsport owner.. it positively tears there hears out.
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The 7.4 was quoted from a magazine (wheels i think) review from november last year. I haven't run mine in yet so i'm not about to test that figure for another 1000km or so, but i'll get back to you with figures. I know my stock ba xr6 only managed about 8.3 to 100, so it's a vast improvement on that. The au is a fast car, always has been, lighter too (albeit less powerful, but not by much).

I'd be keen to do some mods to the exhaust, but want definite answers as to whether modding the exhaust screws with the sensors (setting emission warning lights on the dash, THANKS EURO EMISSION STANDARDS). There is a lot of potential for getting this car well into the 6's for 0-100, just have to wait until the BF is fully analysed, and the findings released. As far as handling goes however, my mate has an AU xr6 and the handling of the BA/BF is far better, (with both being stock) but then i drove my mate's gf's VX acclaim and that made the AU look like a wrx sti in comparison.
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lol i had to take some cruise footage while driving, didnt turn out well at all lol
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The 7.4 was quoted from a magazine (wheels i think) review from november last year. I haven't run mine in yet so i'm not about to test that figure for another 1000km or so, but i'll get back to you with figures. I know my stock ba xr6 only managed about 8.3 to 100, so it's a vast improvement on that. The au is a fast car, always has been, lighter too (albeit less powerful, but not by much).

I'd be keen to do some mods to the exhaust, but want definite answers as to whether modding the exhaust screws with the sensors (setting emission warning lights on the dash, THANKS EURO EMISSION STANDARDS). There is a lot of potential for getting this car well into the 6's for 0-100, just have to wait until the BF is fully analysed, and the findings released. As far as handling goes however, my mate has an AU xr6 and the handling of the BA/BF is far better, (with both being stock) but then i drove my mate's gf's VX acclaim and that made the AU look like a wrx sti in comparison.
The BA/BF XR6 handling would slaughter an AU Forte, no question. Even the BA/BF XT would kill a stock Forte fro handling... Now, care to match apples with apples? Your BF XR6 v's My AU XR6 VCT (I'll even put the stock springs back in) ... I'll tell you the outcome right now. Comfort, you win. Vibration, you win. Harshness dampening, you win. Getting around a corner fast, sharp and getting the foot back into it as early as possible... get used to looking at my butt. The AU VCT is a stiff, agracultural monster compared to the BA's refinement but, point to point, unless the BA is pushing a lot more KW's then its got SFA chance of staying with me. I've driven both, the AU XR6 VCT is probably the most balanced and best handling AU over real roads. The BA/BF XR6 just wouldnt stand a chance point to point against a similar transmissioned AU with similar power to weight. Only problem is the AU driver would probably need a kidney belt :
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Personally , but its all a matter of individuals choice i guess, I consider the XR6 VCT handling 1 of the best i've encountered , not a mm of slack in the wheel, only thing i do miss is when straightening up the wheel after a u-turn it hasn't got that 'auto' return to centre like most cars do ( is like the wheels used to pull the steering straight on an older car ). I nearlly gutter mounted it the first few u-turns of driving it ..lol, but now im used to it i love it .. responsive as ! .
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It has no castor effect ? weird, reminds me of a 70's Holden :P

Casper have you driven a BF with the 6 speed auto ? It ИИИИS on the 4speed Ion unit, it holds gears through corners far better than my BA ever did, it is programmed to not shift gears until you're ouut of the corner, giving a manual effect. My bf corners considerably quicker than my BA ever did, and presumably a lot quicker than the BF with the 4 speed. The mating of the gearbox/barra 190 is beautiful.

I'd be very interested in seeing how you and i would perform around a windy track/road, i believe it would be a lot closer than you seem to think :P not taking anything away from your car at all. Black spur ? ;p
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The BA/BF XR6 handling would slaughter an AU Forte, no question. Even the BA/BF XT would kill a stock Forte fro handling... Now, care to match apples with apples? Your BF XR6 v's My AU XR6 VCT (I'll even put the stock springs back in) ... I'll tell you the outcome right now. Comfort, you win. Vibration, you win. Harshness dampening, you win. Getting around a corner fast, sharp and getting the foot back into it as early as possible... get used to looking at my butt. The AU VCT is a stiff, agracultural monster compared to the BA's refinement but, point to point, unless the BA is pushing a lot more KW's then its got SFA chance of staying with me. I've driven both, the AU XR6 VCT is probably the most balanced and best handling AU over real roads. The BA/BF XR6 just wouldnt stand a chance point to point against a similar transmissioned AU with similar power to weight. Only problem is the AU driver would probably need a kidney belt :
Once again , Casper has nailed it. :

Ive spent alot of time in BAs - XR6/T/8/GT/GT-P - when i used to sell them.And i can say , without question an XR6 VCT will outhandle the bunch of them.As casper said , for NVH when cornering / driving hard the BA wins hands down.

That was my main reason for choosing the car I have today- Exceptional balance , and im still on stock Tickford springs

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I'm not claiming i'd win, just that i belive it would be closer than expected

mate of mine from another department has got a mkII GT as a company car for a couple of weeks (works in the fleet department), he took me for a spin in it tonight... man that thing makes a sweet noise around 4000rpm+

Anyway, i forget my point, love you all.
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Well i passed 120 000 the other day (and yes i shed a tear)
But still plenty of Holden Munching 347 power left to enjoy. Doing over 500k's a week sucks *** though!

My theory is, one it gets to 180 000 its time for a new engine, Hellooo Dart block

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It has no castor effect ? weird, reminds me of a 70's Holden :P

Casper have you driven a BF with the 6 speed auto ? It ИИИИS on the 4speed Ion unit, it holds gears through corners far better than my BA ever did, it is programmed to not shift gears until you're ouut of the corner, giving a manual effect. My bf corners considerably quicker than my BA ever did, and presumably a lot quicker than the BF with the 4 speed. The mating of the gearbox/barra 190 is beautiful.

I'd be very interested in seeing how you and i would perform around a windy track/road, i believe it would be a lot closer than you seem to think :P not taking anything away from your car at all. Black spur ? ;p
LOL, would be fun. You use as many speeds as you want, I'll use 2. First and second.. that covers everything from 0-130+kph . Wont be fair though. I eat auto BA XR6's for lunch in a straight line and hold my own against modified manual BA XR6's.. even beat them too.
As for handling, pick as many gears as you wont.. soft springs and an IRS system that has more grip than the perverbial on a blanket causing push understeer wont get fixed in any of them. The B series XR6's were done for confort, they lost a lot of hard edge. Ive never done the black spur so I dotn know how long it is but if its a 10 minute run of twisties you will be pushing to keep me in view.
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You can reach 105 on the M4 in peak hour????

Congrats, many k's to come. My AU is on 84, only does about 5 a year so there is few years to go before it gets to 100.
yeah it frees up just after the 'light horse interchange' at walgrove road into the 110 zone...
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Originally Posted by Casper
LOL, would be fun. You use as many speeds as you want, I'll use 2. First and second.. that covers everything from 0-130+kph . Wont be fair though. I eat auto BA XR6's for lunch in a straight line and hold my own against modified manual BA XR6's.. even beat them too.
As for handling, pick as many gears as you wont.. soft springs and an IRS system that has more grip than the perverbial on a blanket causing push understeer wont get fixed in any of them. The B series XR6's were done for confort, they lost a lot of hard edge. Ive never done the black spur so I dotn know how long it is but if its a 10 minute run of twisties you will be pushing to keep me in view.
The black spur is about a 15-20 minute run of twisties ;p And hey, no need to get so defensive i'm just asking if you want to have a hoon some day!
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