RIVIAN R1T Electric ute revealed. 0-100 in 3 sec. 5T towing

[Brazen]

More lockable storage which is a big deal for a Ute. These utes use the space under the front bonnet, which will be a good spot to lock up tools or shopping

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by kmav23

The benefits of a electrical Ute is actually huge.

- Big Fuel savings $$$
- Much more powerful torque and towing ability
- Able to charge and connect power tools directly from the vehicle
- Autonomy

Just imagine how many vehicles are in the world at present running on petrol & diesel, now imagine how much strain that is going to put on the power supply grid when all the vehicles are electric.

You think fuel savings is going to be cheap, don't think so as electricity is going to be like we now pay for petroleum products, Big $$$ it is happening now.



They will have to build considerably new power networks around the world to cope with demand.
In my opinion private transport is going to be very dear in the future for the average person.



Cheers.

[Brazen]

A lot of countries are reducing electricity consumption as things are becoming more efficient. The UK has been adding 5,000 EVs a month to its national fleet but overall electricity consumption still fell 2% there last year.

As long as countries keep building capacity as they are then I can see it being managed. Still could be some headaches.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by naddis01

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Chuck a plastic chair on top of it and drive it with a PS4 controller

[kmav23]

Originally Posted by Officemanager

Just imagine how many vehicles are in the world at present running on petrol & diesel, now imagine how much strain that is going to put on the power supply grid when all the vehicles are electric.

You think fuel savings is going to be cheap, don't think so as electricity is going to be like we now pay for petroleum products, Big $$$ it is happening now.



They will have to build considerably new power networks around the world to cope with demand.
In my opinion private transport is going to be very dear in the future for the average person.



Cheers.

If electricity does skyrocket then this will cause what the industry call a death spiral. People will buy solar and batteries to go off the grid as it's cheaper. If this increases the prices then more people will go off the grid or sell to the utility.

A household could be energy independent and sell their excess.
No more relying on Middle eastern oil or utilities..

[Citroënbender]

Originally Posted by kmav23

The benefits of a electrical Ute is actually huge.
...Autonomy

So - it can wolf-whistle without needing a driver?

[Sprintey]

So much MAGA!

These all look great, and to put 'great' in perspective look at the styling on the BMW i3 that the crazy Euros dreamed up as what the electric future should look like (hahaha). Americans have gone "it will be big and square with bling and we will not surrender our love of massive pick ups and wagons" and lo it became word.

Skateboard chassis are cool too! So simple.

[Sprintey]

And to take Kmav's point a bit further, imagine running a farm - no shortage of sunlight, solar charging, you get to run an enormous RHD US pick up off this, no diesel bill for the business, huge torque, few moving parts - you get the idea

[Burnout]

Originally Posted by Sprintey

And to take Kmav's point a bit further, imagine running a farm - no shortage of sunlight, solar charging, you get to run an enormous RHD US pick up off this, no diesel bill for the business, huge torque, few moving parts - you get the idea

All good, but for the 500hp diesel tractor and the 400hp diesel truck to get you produce off farm.

[kmav23]

Originally Posted by Burnout

All good, but for the 500hp diesel tractor and the 400hp diesel truck to get you produce off farm.

Farm tractors and equipment will move to electric and autonomy.

Farms are already using drones.

Airports are moving to all electric ground vehicles as well.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by kmav23

If electricity does skyrocket then this will cause what the industry call a death spiral. People will buy solar and batteries to go off the grid as it's cheaper. If this increases the prices then more people will go off the grid or sell to the utility.

A household could be energy independent and sell their excess.
No more relying on Middle eastern oil or utilities..

Going off grid all comes at a cost and depending on your location, if you want 100% reliability on electricity Solar off grid does not really meet that demand.


Cheers.

[kmav23]

Originally Posted by Officemanager

Going off grid all comes at a cost and depending on your location, if you want 100% reliability on electricity Solar off grid does not really meet that demand.


Cheers.

For an average size house you can go off grid with enough solar and batteries.

However its too expensive now for most situations to go off the grid.
But solar/batteries prices will come down and if electricity goes up it will reach a tipping point.

Many remote locations have decided to go off the grid as the cost to connect power lines was more then solar / batteries.

[Burnout]

Originally Posted by kmav23

Farm tractors and equipment will move to electric and autonomy.

Farms are already using drones.

Airports are moving to all electric ground vehicles as well.

Nice pat answer, heard 20yrs ago.
Just imagine towing a 4Tonne battery, just to keep the 500hp tractor going for a 14hr day. (Where oh, where is the charge point in a 2000Hc paddock, when you need it).

[chevypower]

Originally Posted by Burnout

Nice pat answer, heard 20yrs ago.
Just imagine towing a 4Tonne battery, just to keep the 500hp tractor going for a 14hr day. (Where oh, where is the charge point in a 2000Hc paddock, when you need it).

Yeah it’s right by the diesel pump. Why are people so against innovation? Why do you act like it needs to fulfill extreme situations in order for it to work for everybody else’s? It’s not perfection overnight vs nothing. We run a diesel fuel cell on the back of a flat bed Dodge 4500 to fuel up the diesel equipment on the job site. The same thing can happen with electricity. We will probably combine technologies for a while, but eventually electric will take over. Stop being scared.

[Brazen]

A lot of innovation will occur in the mining industry which will then spread to other sectors.

Removing and dealing with emissions from equipment in underground mines is hugely expensive. I know BHP have started using 79 series utes converted to electric and can imagine more work being done in the space.

[Burnout]

Originally Posted by chevypower

Yeah it’s right by the diesel pump. Why are people so against innovation? Why do you act like it needs to fulfill extreme situations in order for it to work for everybody else’s? It’s not perfection overnight vs nothing. We run a diesel fuel cell on the back of a flat bed Dodge 4500 to fuel up the diesel equipment on the job site. The same thing can happen with electricity. We will probably combine technologies for a while, but eventually electric will take over. Stop being scared.

not scared of tech, just the lack of comparable battery tech, with farming.
Imagine for a moment, a 500hp tractor working a 14hr day, where is the battery tech to allow it to get going the next day. I know of farms here in Aust with 25,000AC paddocks. And where is the battery tech, which allows for that 14hr day in the first place.

[kmav23]

Originally Posted by Burnout

not scared of tech, just the lack of comparable battery tech, with farming.
Imagine for a moment, a 500hp tractor working a 14hr day, where is the battery tech to allow it to get going the next day. I know of farms here in Aust with 25,000AC paddocks. And where is the battery tech, which allows for that 14hr day in the first place.

Huge Electric Tractor -Fendt E100 Vario Electric Tractor

https://www.fendt.com/int/e100-vario.html

Fendt E 100 Electric Tractor Specifications
Works up to 5 Hours on a single charge.
50kW Output power.
Input energy 650V Lithium Battery.
Battery Capacity 100kWh.
Fast charge of 80% in 40 minutes.
Energy can be reused with the regenerative energy system.

Fendt electric tractor is fully compatible and conventional. It works on two powerful interfaces for electrical equipment with a booster battery package of 150kW.

It works on two variants, standard PTO connection, and the normal hydraulic supply to implement. It is highly beneficial for farmers who can be free from diesel prices.

Fendt E 100 History
Fendt dedicated its technology for electrification of agriculture. It developed many practical solutions for electrical challenging systems. The Fendt e 100 is the worlds first practical battery-powered tractor which can be used in fields without the need of a recharge.

Maintenance work and costs also reduced.

Electric tractors can be used on a farm, in the forest, or by local councils. The benefits are multiple.

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by Burnout

All good, but for the 500hp diesel tractor and the 400hp diesel truck to get you produce off farm.

The Diesel; Farm tractor & Interstate Prime mover will be around for Many years to come...

[kypez]

Hideous! But I'd buy the SUV when it comes out if their Battery tech is remotely as good as Teslas.

[chevypower]

Originally Posted by Burnout

not scared of tech, just the lack of comparable battery tech, with farming.
Imagine for a moment, a 500hp tractor working a 14hr day, where is the battery tech to allow it to get going the next day. I know of farms here in Aust with 25,000AC paddocks. And where is the battery tech, which allows for that 14hr day in the first place.

I highly doubt that is often done without any downtime. But even so, fast charging within 20 mins or so already exists, mobile charge stations from a vehicle, and nano technology coming out. Those few people in that situation are usually pretty creative to finding solutions to their unique problems. Or maybe those 5 people need to wait until nano batteries are here. Solar panel on top of the tractor for extended range, or even battery swapping. It’s not rocket science.

[Sprintey]

I'm picturing it changing gradually. Maybe the farm ute is electric, has solar panels as part of its roof, recharges as you work the diesel tractor and plugs into the battery array at the machinery shed that was charged during the working day, after it is done. For the diesel tractor, you have algae photobioreactors on site that generate some of your own diesel, eventually more, until you reach what Henry Ford wanted the Model T to do for agricultural families in the US with ethanol - grow your own fuel. This way, two less outgoings, keep more of your income, grow more wealth from your endeavours. Keep saving, keep original equipment in good order, give any debt the flick over time, generate real wealth via investing to reduce input costs.

No reason why 1940's tech (diesel tractor) and 1910's tech (electric drivetrain) can't co-exist in the 21st century and both use renewable power - if you have the planning and foresight.

Here's the world's most awesome tractor again, btw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w-ZnkeXI7c

Edit: one of the amazing things about this rig is it's cost of $12K to build to the farmer. Genius. How many times would it have paid itself off?!

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by kmav23

Huge Electric Tractor -Fendt E100 Vario Electric Tractor

https://www.fendt.com/int/e100-vario.html

Fendt E 100 Electric Tractor Specifications
Works up to 5 Hours on a single charge.
50kW Output power.
Input energy 650V Lithium Battery.
Battery Capacity 100kWh.
Fast charge of 80% in 40 minutes.
Energy can be reused with the regenerative energy system.

Fendt electric tractor is fully compatible and conventional. It works on two powerful interfaces for electrical equipment with a booster battery package of 150kW.

It works on two variants, standard PTO connection, and the normal hydraulic supply to implement. It is highly beneficial for farmers who can be free from diesel prices.

Fendt E 100 History
Fendt dedicated its technology for electrification of agriculture. It developed many practical solutions for electrical challenging systems. The Fendt e 100 is the worlds first practical battery-powered tractor which can be used in fields without the need of a recharge.

Maintenance work and costs also reduced.

Electric tractors can be used on a farm, in the forest, or by local councils. The benefits are multiple.

Good for an oversized hobby farm but i don't think they will be replacing a couple of Versatile 620's just yet....

No doubt somewhere in the future something may come up, but not in the near future......

Lol at the Huge & 5 hour run time.....

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by Sprintey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w-ZnkeXI7c

Edit: one of the amazing things about this rig is it's cost of $12K to build to the farmer. Genius. How many times would it have paid itself off?!

I used to drive one of these back in the early 80's, a cocky in Kulin WA owned it and i think a mob in kellerberrin built it, all you did was supply a couple of tractors and some $$ and you got a cheap 4WD tractor...

The one in the vid you posted is the deluxe version, with a cab! the one i drove wasn't, no cab at 2 or 3am mid winter South West WA was fun......Not!

[zipping]

Originally Posted by kmav23

For an average size house you can go off grid with enough solar and batteries.

However its too expensive now for most situations to go off the grid.
But solar/batteries prices will come down and if electricity goes up it will reach a tipping point.

Many remote locations have decided to go off the grid as the cost to connect power lines was more then solar / batteries.

But as with all you guys who push renewables relentlessly, you keep saying electricity prices will fall (and yes u said if).

I have no doubt that you are right though and we will continue to see a rise in electricity prices and will make sense for some to go off-grid.

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by DJR-351

Good for an oversized hobby farm but i don't think they will be replacing a couple of Versatile 620's just yet....

No doubt somewhere in the future something may come up, but not in the near future......

Lol at the Huge & 5 hour run time.....

Just have to slash the Paddock with an extension cord attached

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by DJR-351

Lol at the Huge & 5 hour run time.....

Me too....

[naddis01]

Originally Posted by chevypower

I highly doubt that is often done without any downtime. But even so, fast charging within 20 mins or so already exists, mobile charge stations from a vehicle, and nano technology coming out. Those few people in that situation are usually pretty creative to finding solutions to their unique problems. Or maybe those 5 people need to wait until nano batteries are here. Solar panel on top of the tractor for extended range, or even battery swapping. It’s not rocket science.

The 25000ac paddock might be a rarity but the majority of broadacre farms would do a minimum of a 14hr day during sowing and harvesting times.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by zipping

But as with all you guys who push renewables relentlessly, you keep saying electricity prices will fall (and yes u said if).

I have no doubt that you are right though and we will continue to see a rise in electricity prices and will make sense for some to go off-grid.

When privatisation came in for electricity they said prices will gradually fall due to competition, well we all know what really happened and is still happening, the complete opposite.
When fossil fuels dwindle you watch the price of electricity skyrocket as governments will tax you to the hilt.


Going off grid to solar & battery is no guarantee of reliability of your electricity needs.

[Raptor]

Originally Posted by Officemanager

When privatisation came in for electricity they said prices will gradually fall due to competition, well we all know what really happened and is still happening, the complete opposite.....

Privatisation is a crock. How is unnecessary duplication of services and the need to make a profit ever going to lead to lower prices

Sorry, off topic.

Bring on affordable electric cars powered by renewables.

[Junkyard-Dog]

Did they have to make it look so stupid though?