Hoons in Vic - Crackdown - Page 2

TIKFD6 · 21-08-2005, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by buickman

The tog police in Vic do courses on picking the basics of a roadwortheness.

They are not experts in every detail of modifacations. So if by chance you do get checked & defected its your responsability to prove its not.

The motto is keep a low profile. But if you want to gather in groups to hoon or attract the attention of the police you face the consiquenses.

buickman

Thats sounds fair, The Vic police up here are reasonably good, its the Albury cops.

The MaDDeSTMaN · 21-08-2005, 08:01 PM

Hmm, if that law is referring to the tow BALL, then that's no real trouble (but stupid), however if it's referring to the entire towbar, then it's absolutely ridiculous! Are we supposed to completely remove the entire towbar, and just bolt it back on when we're going to use it?

Idiots!

The MaDDeSTMaN · 21-08-2005, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lorosfalcon

well i hate to burst all of your bubbles but yes it is illegal to have your towbar TOUNGUES on unless you are towing something.

So what about towbars where the toungue can't be removed from the rest of the tow bar? Does that mean that these ones are illegal?

XplosiveR6 · 21-08-2005, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by T_Terror

In theory changing a BOV especially to a atmosphere venting one will change the signal recieved by your MAF which could potentially cause the car to run rich and have more emissions.

just to be picky, the singnal will not change if your car has a MAF sensor, as this sensor is after the BOV, so the signal will not change as it has not calcualted the air yet. while a car with a AFM such as on the ford V8s and most jap cars are before the BOV and this will cause the car to run rich, which is why you see alot of cars with BOVs backfire a little when changing gears.

A car with a plumed back BOV keeps the air circulated within the air intake and will not effect the running of the car. All turbo cars must have a BOV to stop the pressurised air rushing back to the turbo after the throttle has snaped shut, this will cause premature wear on the turbo.

Psycho Chicken · 21-08-2005, 08:17 PM

You have to remove the hitch/tounge if it's feasable to do so.

XD-Machine · 21-08-2005, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by f100_mad

The problem is that people mod cars, without looking into the work being done to that car. Everybody should research their ideas, to gain information to make the right changes in the right way, engineers are always happy to help in anyway possible, you just have to ask them, they will tell you what you can and cannot do to a car. In south australia, Smart people who know cars also can mod a car (illegaly) and then sell it to less car minded people who then get sprung. just do your home work first.

that happen to somebody i new, it had so much illegal stuff in it but they didnt no the rules and at rego time it got defected (yes the guy who did it was a bastard).
after watching that experence it makes you just wanna spend a little bit more money and buy a stock car and make the mods yourself. at least you no you are doing the wrong thing or right thing .At least this way you wont be like wtf i bought this car for x amount of dolllars and i need to spend x amount of dollars just to make it legal, i might as well just have bought a car and done it properly.

XD-Machine · 21-08-2005, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucknaked

I read somewhere that a guy got pulled up by the police and he was asked to pop his bonnet which he did. The policeman says "What V8 is that" Not sure what happened next, but it was a 6. The policeman was convinced it was a V8.

i would slowly and surely count the amount of exsaust outlets are on it 1...2....3......4...........5..................... ..6

The MaDDeSTMaN · 21-08-2005, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

You have to remove the hitch/tounge if it's feasable to do so.

Ahh, ok, so how about this tow bar I've got that I was considering putting on the XF?

I'm guessing I could fit it, but I'd have to remove the tow ball if I'm not towing?

XD-Machine · 21-08-2005, 08:48 PM

dw man some cops that just got devorced might book you for it

mr_efxr · 21-08-2005, 09:05 PM

Been there and done that, Got busted and now got smarter and wiser!

The story is; on forced induction cars you can have only one change to the air induction system, either a intercooler or Air pod -> catch is the air pod has to be enclosed so it does not realease to the atmosphere and gets cold air not hot and cold. The BOV can only be plumb back -> Best ones are the factory R33 GTR BOV's.
As for a Nataurally Aspirated vehicle -> air mods are endless and the cops can't say .

Matto_84 · 21-08-2005, 11:06 PM

To what I have eard about towbars you only have to remove a towbar and ball when your not towing if you have a hayman reese fitting.

This one is from my XF, put the Towbar in the end of that and I was told that I can be booked for it.

But if it is bolted in you dont have to remove it at all.

I got a towbar on the EL too, and I wouldn';t want to try and remove it, it is bolted under the bumpers and if any copper thinks im gonner take off my bumper to take of a towbar they have got another thing coming!!

OzJavelin · 22-08-2005, 07:31 AM

Hmm .. I specifically leave the tow hitch on both my cars to stop people "touch" parking ...... I think I'll just me waiting until I get pulled over about it.

LTDHO · 22-08-2005, 07:46 AM

This is sad and depressing.

It does not matter what we say, the police have close to no idea and can hand out infringement notices based on knowing nothing. It doesn't matter how polite you are and how much you cooperate, you can still get done.

Unfortunally it is accepted to defect a modified car but not a dangerous one. It is comical that we see so many illegally driven vehicles on the road yet those of us with safe cars get pulled over.

What can we do?
Nothing! Not a thing. Sit back and take it? That's pretty much it.

The MaDDeSTMaN - You can unbolt your tounge, that is the legal requirement when not towing.

[sarcasm]But on a stock car it is legal to have bald tyres, soft brakes, miss aligned wheels, odd sided wheels, non working lights, missing mirrors, etc[end-sarcasm]

Moral of the story.
Do not spend money on your car, not even on maintainence, then you will not get defected or have issues with the police!!!

Matto_84 · 22-08-2005, 05:56 PM

If I got caught for something stupid on my car and I had an engineers certificate for it and I recently did a roadworthy I would take the buggers in front of a magistrate and see what they have to say then!!. I will stand for my rights anytime!

**Mechan1k** · 22-08-2005, 06:10 PM

Doesn't matter ... my "future" brother-in-law in a police officer at Blacktown (western Sydney) ... and if he pulls someone over ... and they wave an "engineer's certificate" in his face ... and using attitude ... he gets the defect book out ... and still defects them.

And Engineer's Certificate does not mean you will NOT get a defect ever ... it just makes it a lot easier to clear them afterwards.

No matter what ... you will get a defect ... but it comes down to a few things.

1) The way to drive on the road (drive like an idiot ... they will target you)
2) Attitude (act all blaise and be a know-it-all ... they are just itching to put you in your spot).

Now if you are apologetic and friendly (not too friendly though ... it can act against you) ... you have more chance of them not worrying about it.

Unless you car is VERY noticable (ie: noticably illegal).

Just some words of wisdom from a Blacktown copper (he also had a modified car himself ... and knows some things on his car could be defectable too).

Moral of the story ... be nice to the copper ... and act dumb sometimes too ... hee hee

luke · 23-08-2005, 01:17 AM

when's the last time you saw an old volvo with a defect sticker? the old 244's have a nasty habit of letting the rear muffler half hang off... i see them all the time... in a way i can't wait till i'm an old fart.... then at least i wont get targeted lol
as someone has already said in this thread... it's so depressing that we can't do anything about it...

InitialD · 23-08-2005, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by LTDHO

[sarcasm]But on a stock car it is legal to have bald tyres, soft brakes, miss aligned wheels, odd sided wheels, non working lights, missing mirrors, etc[end-sarcasm]

Moral of the story.
Do not spend money on your car, not even on maintainence, then you will not get defected or have issues with the police!!!

I AGREE! I saw this report earlier and thought "Damn here we go, ill get pulled over more

out: " I cant count HOW MANY box, beat up EB/VN/ Corolla's etc that have been waved thru at a police Roadworthy thing they have setup on the side of the road, yet they see me and think "CHA CHING!"
I go to ALOT of effort to make sure everything is rwc on my car. Yet last week im told "Im one of those erratic driving P platers" by a cop who pulled me over in the maccas carpark cause they needed to fill there quota or something.

Anyone who has a slightly done up car seems to get hassled, where 'old man Barry' up the road in his crappy HIGHLY Unroadworthy corolla doesnt get looked at twice. But we will tailgate any P plater or done up car in the area. The cops around here seem to love pulling me over but whats this? pull over the DRUNK OLDFARTS in there Patrols/landcruisers/Hilux's driving on the wrong site of my street, attempting burnouts and driving all over the place? No thats too hard, lets hassle the few kids in the area who LOOK AFTER THERE CARS!

Sprint_ED · 24-08-2005, 09:08 PM

totally agree with this thread, 2 weeks ago i was driving down geelong road footscray, a tog was driving beside me, infront of me was a seriously riced up CRX, now if i woas a cop i would oif defected to too. it wass so low a cruched coke can wouldnt fit, but what was funni was that next to the crx, was a 82 carolla, with its exhaust scraping on the road, creating sparks, and the sparks were bouncing off the fuel tank, now which car do u rekon the pulled over???