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Old 14-10-2006, 07:10 PM   #31
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Fill Truck with diesel.

(Pick a bowser with broken auto shut off.)

Spray diesel all over shirt, pants, legs, shoes and socks.

Voila! Diesel will not evaporate and the smell will cover ALL body odour for hours!

That is classic..

I generrally forgot to put deodrant on, but it's not so bad work in a chiller at work so don't sweat to often unless unloading dry pallets of berri products..
But when i go out it's Lynx for me.
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Old 14-10-2006, 08:05 PM   #32
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I use some stuff in a black spray can called Cedel. I am a bigger bloke than most so therefore I sweat alot in the warmer months. Since I have started using this stuff I dont hear any complaints from anybody that I stink. Im not sure what this stuff smells like because I have no sense of smell, but I would imagine that it would be better than body odour...
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Old 14-10-2006, 08:20 PM   #33
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If you want to reduce the possible chance of Alzeimers, id stay away from any product with Aluminium in it, its a heavy metal which builds up in your body/brain, and there is some link to it causing Dementia/Alzeimers. Not only does you skin absorb it, you breathe it in when you spray it.
I think Parkinsons disease may also be linked to it.


There are natural products that uses 'Crystal Alum' which is just natural salts, and in my experience it works better than any commercial brand Anti Perspirant also. They are usually non-fragrant.

Btw before anyone says, "but people drink from aluminium cans all the time", they are coated with a clear film, to stop the metal from leeching/reacting with the acids in the drink.
I'm with Martin...100% natural stuff for me.

Its not the perspiring thats the problem, its the bacteria that forms with the warmth (of your underarms, etc) that causes BO. The natural deodorants with the crystal salts work really well...most health food/supplement shops (ie GNC) sell them. If you buy the fragrance free ones you can add your own cologne (or perfume for the ladies, or those otherwise inclined).

The prevalence of breast cancer (for both men and women) rose substantially a few years after aerosol deodorants (with aluminium) came on the market.
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Old 14-10-2006, 08:28 PM   #34
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I'm with Martin...100% natural stuff for me.

Its not the perspiring thats the problem, its the bacteria that forms with the warmth (of your underarms, etc) that causes BO. The natural deodorants with the crystal salts work really well...most health food/supplement shops (ie GNC) sell them. If you buy the fragrance free ones you can add your own cologne (or perfume for the ladies, or those otherwise inclined).

The prevalence of breast cancer (for both men and women) rose substantially a few years after aerosol deodorants (with aluminium) came on the market.
hahah...who would've thoght that you would find this kind of infomation on a ford forum! hmmm i must go look at this "natural" stuff :P
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Old 14-10-2006, 09:14 PM   #35
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The link below is the one I was referring to, but I'm pretty sure there are a number of different ones on the market (I use the sprays)
And useless you can't find it in stores, don't buy in from their website...you can get it for around $6.95 @ GNC.

http://www.bodycrystal.com.au/index.htm

Sorry, I'm a bit of a hippy when it comes to using natural stuff...don't even get me started on Sodium Lauryl Sulphate :
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Old 14-10-2006, 10:03 PM   #36
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I'm with bucket, I use nivea also. It was only after i got it in a student pack when i started uni. thanks student union. Best i have ever used. Not a stong perfume but effective
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Old 14-10-2006, 10:17 PM   #37
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I brought some of the new lynx the other day - total ****, hardly did anytihng as far as i could tell.
I use rexona. Rexona seems to work better for me.
The only complaint i have is if i don't shower in a few days things get pretty sticky/gummy under there, takes a but of scrubbing

Whilst on the subject of BO, does anyone else sweat and stink really bad the day after a big night?

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Old 14-10-2006, 10:33 PM   #38
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Whilst on the subject of BO, does anyone else sweat and stink really bad the day after a big night?

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It could be since they banned smoking in pubs/clubs. Now you come home from town smelling like sweat and urine. Or do I just hang out at the wrong places?

Try being a chick where you have to shave your underarms, then load them up with deo so you don't get sweat marks whilst wearing tight shirts. Ouch.
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Old 15-10-2006, 01:29 AM   #39
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Wow, cant believe no one has mentioned Mitchum yet, it comes in a green lil roll on bottle.. Sport, powderfresh and Active, i use the sport one,w orks a treat and all my mates use it too.. no sweat whatsoever.. they did a test on some show n this came out the winner for it.. its the best. Mitchum ;-)
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If you want to reduce the possible chance of Alzeimers, id stay away from any product with Aluminium in it, its a heavy metal which builds up in your body/brain, and there is some link to it causing Dementia/Alzeimers. Not only does you skin absorb it, you breathe it in when you spray it.
I think Parkinsons disease may also be linked to it.
Bahwhatthehellareyoutalkingaboutimjustfine.....who are you? whats thenquestion? oh,stinkstystyuffright. wellimjustfine - who are you?

I find the sprays fine to use except for my arm shaking so much........

who are you?

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Old 15-10-2006, 07:59 AM   #41
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If you want to reduce the possible chance of Alzeimers, id stay away from any product with Aluminium in it, its a heavy metal which builds up in your body/brain, and there is some link to it causing Dementia/Alzeimers. Not only does you skin absorb it, you breathe it in when you spray it.
I think Parkinsons disease may also be linked to it.


There are natural products that uses 'Crystal Alum' which is just natural salts, and in my experience it works better than any commercial brand Anti Perspirant also. They are usually non-fragrant.

Btw before anyone says, "but people drink from aluminium cans all the time", they are coated with a clear film, to stop the metal from leeching/reacting with the acids in the drink.
This information is flawed on so many fronts I don't know where to start:

* Antiperspirants (AP) are a 'drug'; they alter a bodily function; i.e. reduce sweat. The only approved salts are Aluminium derived.
* In these forms the Aluminium is NOT bio-available i.e. can NOT be absorbed by the body;
* Aluminium is not a 'heavy' metal;
* Aluminium is in the top five most abundant elements in the earth's crust;
* Aluminium is an element needed for human health;
* Aluminium is obtained by the body, primarily via vegetables;
* the study linking Aluminium & Alzheimer's has been discredited on several fronts but is used but the 'pseudo science' industry regularly in everything from cosmetics to steel cookware and packaging, The basic problem with the study was the use of Aluminium based dyes to stain brain samples & then test for Aluminium ;http://www.ctfa.org/Template.cfm?Sec...&ContentID=860
* Your natural crystal is Aluminium Sulphate (Alum), which occurs naturally but is also manufactured, for water treatment & other industrial processes; its the active in those sticks that stop you bleeding after a shaving cut.
* Alum may be effective as an antimicrobial (the bugs that cause most body odour) & therefore as a deodorant (different product to APs) but they are not as effective as the approved AP salts in this area.
* Bottom line is a good AP reduces sweat by a minimum of 15% & up to 60% in clinical trials, making your more comfortable but providing a reduced environment for bugs & also kills the bugs that make you stink.

Let me finish up by saying its your choice what materials you put in or on your body; just do it for the right reasons, making informed decisions.
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I know it's marketed at the ladies, but Dove (the cream one in the mushroom bottle) is unbelievable. No sweat at all regardless of what temperature it is. Maybe the boys could try it as well.
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I used to always get white marks on my shirts, so i started using Rexona Crystal and No more white marks, and unless i run around in long sleeve shirt and pants, i never perspire enough to feel i need more on... It certainly doesnt last as long as some of the '24 hour' sprays, but ensures i dont get in trouble from the mrs for white marks or work for smelly....! Its not an over powering smell for a spray either...
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This information is flawed on so many fronts I don't know where to start:

* Antiperspirants (AP) are a 'drug'; they alter a bodily function; i.e. reduce sweat. The only approved salts are Aluminium derived.
* In these forms the Aluminium is NOT bio-available i.e. can NOT be absorbed by the body;
* Aluminium is not a 'heavy' metal;
* Aluminium is in the top five most abundant elements in the earth's crust;
* Aluminium is an element needed for human health;
* Aluminium is obtained by the body, primarily via vegetables;
* the study linking Aluminium & Alzheimer's has been discredited on several fronts but is used but the 'pseudo science' industry regularly in everything from cosmetics to steel cookware and packaging, The basic problem with the study was the use of Aluminium based dyes to stain brain samples & then test for Aluminium ;http://www.ctfa.org/Template.cfm?Sec...&ContentID=860
* Your natural crystal is Aluminium Sulphate (Alum), which occurs naturally but is also manufactured, for water treatment & other industrial processes; its the active in those sticks that stop you bleeding after a shaving cut.
* Alum may be effective as an antimicrobial (the bugs that cause most body odour) & therefore as a deodorant (different product to APs) but they are not as effective as the approved AP salts in this area.
* Bottom line is a good AP reduces sweat by a minimum of 15% & up to 60% in clinical trials, making your more comfortable but providing a reduced environment for bugs & also kills the bugs that make you stink.

Let me finish up by saying its your choice what materials you put in or on your body; just do it for the right reasons, making informed decisions.

You just said you work for the deodorant industry, so I guess you might be considered to have a conflict of interest? So of course your going to be towing the company line.
Just like perhaps the oil industry in the 60s saying lead in petrol was harmless....
I never said it was fact that it was linked to those diseases, hence why I said it might be 'possible'.
There is a possible link of breast cancer to those who apply deodorant to shaved underarms.
Studies into effects of certain chemicals are always flawed, because the labs can a never be completely unbiased, and sometimes dont reveal true/accurate findings due to possible backlash and funding cuts. It takes years of typical human exposure before the true effects are known.

Theres also reason why we dont use pots and pans made of aluminium anymore. Everyone had them in the 70s and 80s, but when the possible risks were revealed, everyone got rid of them.
They dont list 'contains XX% Aluminium' on the deodorant cans just for fun do they?
Its not only the aluminium, look at the rest of the chemical cocktail listed on the can.

In my experience, using a natural deodorant containing 'crystal Alum' has been alot better for my heath. With commercial deodorants, I used to get rashes in my armpits and elbow pits, and my left arm used to 'fall asleep' quite often for no reason. I saw a doctor and he said it could be the deodorants, and he sees quite alot of it.

Since swapping over those effects have stopped.
It also does not stain clothes.
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If you want to reduce the possible chance of Alzeimers, id stay away from any product with Aluminium in it, its a heavy metal which builds up in your body/brain, and there is some link to it causing Dementia/Alzeimers.
Uh-oh! does this mean that I'm in trouble re Alzheimer's because I've owned, and worked on, 2 cars with full aluminium engines and lots of others with Alloy heads!

I was going to ask something else but I forgot what it was
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Uh-oh! does this mean that I'm in trouble re Alzheimer's because I've owned, and worked on, 2 cars with full aluminium engines and lots of others with Alloy heads!

I was going to ask something else but I forgot what it was
Ive got no idea!
I just said there could be a risk, how much of a risk is debatable.
But its not unheard of that 'harmless' substances eventually become toxic.
Lead, Mercury, DDT, Asbestos etc are among the more well known substances, there are thousands of other lesser known ones.
In the 50s and 60s kids used to play with mercury in their hands in science classes. An old science teacher of mine said when he was a student, one of his mates rolled the mercury around in his mouth!
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Ive got no idea!
I just said there could be a risk, how much of a risk is debatable.
That... was... a... joke... !

(I was one of those 50's kids who used to roll mercury around in his hands, I also poured lead to make my own fishing sinkers)
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It could be since they banned smoking in pubs/clubs. Now you come home from town smelling like sweat and urine. Or do I just hang out at the wrong places?
...I was talking about after i shaved and showered, and the hangover is in full effect.
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