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Old 19-10-2012, 10:04 PM   #31
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You wouldn't get a Falcon to 100km/h in those sort of times due to traction issues. At least not on the street with normal tyres anyway. Any Evo pretty much will do 0-100km/h in around 5s or less.
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Old 19-10-2012, 10:14 PM   #32
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You wouldn't get a Falcon to 100km/h in those sort of times due to traction issues. At least not on the street with normal tyres anyway. Any Evo pretty much will do 0-100km/h in around 5s or less.
I've never been in one of those, its hard to fathom. Ive had falcons most of my life, and was always wanting to know how to get the big bertha to move as quickly as possible in 0-100 dash without breaking traction.

Tomorrow, I'll be getting a tune done on the lib. So it will be interesting to see if the improvement in power really does make a difference when having AWD.
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Old 20-10-2012, 07:36 AM   #33
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200kW at all 4 wheels on a WRX/Evo *should* run mid 12's at around 108MPH and run to 100km/h in around 4.5s.

My Evo with 190kW at all 4 wheels ran 13.1 @ 107MPH. I rebuilt it to 260kW at all 4 wheels a while later and while I didn't get a quarter mile time, it's 80-120km/h time was 2 seconds flat and I timed 0-100km/h in 3.5s on a G-Tech timer. It was brutal as hell.

0-100 in 3,5 s ?

sure you didn't just make a typo?

(with all due respect I don't believe it)
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Old 20-10-2012, 08:02 AM   #34
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You will be suprised Ugg. Those times sound about right if you launch the car.
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Old 20-10-2012, 08:35 AM   #35
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0-100 in 3,5 s ?

sure you didn't just make a typo?

(with all due respect I don't believe it)
Nah, not a typo man.

http://www.torquestats.com/index.php?car_id=190

http://www.maximum-cars.com/Cars/Car.php?carnumber=703

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubi...Evolution_VIII

Evo 8 MR FQ400 - 0-60MPH = 3.5s, 1/4 mile = 12.1 @ 117mph.

Mine made 260kwatw which is a little more than 400hp at the engine.
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Old 20-10-2012, 08:47 AM   #36
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The first generation R35's @ 1760kg run those sorta 0-100's with under 300awkw and no launch control

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IF it was a TC-SST, than 3.5 seconds is not that really far fetched. To get those numbers in a manual is pretty impressive.

Keep in mind how fast some German tuned AWD Golfs run, 3.5 to 100 in an evo is easily conceivable.
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rough rule of thumb..
200 awkw is roughly equal to 230rwkw..

In most cases you add about 30 kw to get rwkw figure.
This was proven by GTR owners long time ago as they can switch from awd to 2wd by taking out a fuse
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200 awkw is roughly equal to 230rwkw..

In most cases you add about 30 kw to get rwkw figure.
This was proven by GTR owners long time ago as they can switch from awd to 2wd by taking out a fuse
Oh right, thanks for your answer. That's good to know. Are you basing that on a manual or auto car?
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Anyone else watch Ancient Aliens and still not know whether he based it on a manual or auto?
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Id go with manual as he seems to be on the gear..
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