2018 Ford Mustang - Acceleration Test by Motor

[radler]

I am by no means any sort of expert but the way I figure it

ANCAP 5 was given to falcon fair and square and without bells and whilstles

Mustang rated at 2 now adds bells and whistles and then marketed as 3

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by radler

I am by no means any sort of expert but the way I figure it

ANCAP 5 was given to falcon fair and square and without bells and whilstles

Mustang rated at 2 now adds bells and whistles and then marketed as 3

The requirements for 5 star keep changing so your observations are incorrect.

An FG / FGX would be max 3 star car now ( without all of the driver assist functions).

A BF or earlier would be a lot less.

[jpd80]

That’s the thing, they’re shifting the goal posts and not changing the max star rating
People are terribly confused because they are trying to compare then and now

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

The requirements for 5 star keep changing so your observations are incorrect.

An FG / FGX would be max 3 star car now ( without all of the driver assist functions).

A BF or earlier would be a lot less.

And so they should be, just because BF and then FG/X attained 4 and 5 stars from 2006-2016 doesnt mean they are the pinnacle of safe motoring in 2018 and beyond because they lack many of the features which are emerging in the industry.
Whether Mustang in 2018 is considered a 5 star vehicle under the previous system with the maximum possible rating therefore pushed out to 7 for vehicles with additional safety features over what the Mustang has or under the revised current criterior it is a 3 star car with the maximum now achieving a readdressed 5 star rating, Mustang is still 2 stars short of achieving the maximum score in 2018.
Its just shifting the numbers to better represent what vehicles with more or less safety features achieve in 2018.
What was 5 is now only 3 and what was 4 is now only 2 etc. etc.
My BF was considered worthy of 4 stars when tested in 2002, today it is in reality only a 2 star car due to progress in the industry.
Its still a relatively safe car, but it would be naive to consider it only 1 star behind a modern vehicle no matter how they are tested or how many stars are awarded on the scale in 2018.

If a 2018 Mustang scores the same as what a 2014 FGX would in 2018 it suggets it is 4 years behind in safety development.

With information at your fingertips any second of the day, people arent confused, they are simply uninformed which falls back on them to do better research before laying down their hard earned.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by jpd80

That’s the thing, they’re shifting the goal posts and not changing the max star rating
People are terribly confused because they are trying to compare then and now

And idiots that don’t know any better carry on about their 2003 “5 star” **** boxes, vs 3 star “death trap” mustangs.

Good luck to them.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

And idiots that don’t know any better carry on about their 2003 “5 star” **** boxes, vs 3 star “death trap” mustangs.

Good luck to them.

Who, link please.

[mcsweenyfives]

Anyways disregarding the CRAPCAP safety ratings which has been argued on many sites with no winner in the argument and people need to build bridges and get over it, I'm amazed motor didn't take the mustang to a dirt airstrip full of potholes and do the test. I stopped buying motor magazine 15 years ago because of their (in my opinion) biased reporting and i think that caradvice and other Australian motor vehicle review magazines and websites are no better.

It's the same as any report or survey. They are performed, asked and written for a specific outcome. I am sure motor would have had an inkling at what results they were going to get and as a result the sort of story that they would be able to write to sell the most magazines and get the most internet clicks for the advertising dollar.

I am sure Fords results are from the the ideal conditions as well so I think the times are close enough to be legit and provide a true indicator of what the vehicle is able produce if someone was able to reproduce the same condition as when Ford conducted their testing.

Don't have a mustang, would not say no to one, but can't fit five in, and it is not in my current wish list of cars.

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[Mercury Bullet]

12.5 seconds on it's first time out.

Awesome!

Be into 11's once we get real drivers into them.

[Falcon SXR8]

Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet

12.5 seconds on it's first time out.

Awesome!

Be into 11's once we get real drivers into them.

Long way to an 11 from a mid 12

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Falcon SXR8

Long way to an 11 from a mid 12

Faster than any Falcon ever though.

[radler]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

And idiots that don’t know any better carry on about their 2003 “5 star” **** boxes, vs 3 star “death trap” mustangs.

Good luck to them.

Well you can call people idiots but lane departure to get from 2 to 3 doesn’t sound like an earnest effort to substantially improve safety

2 by 2017 standards and 3 by 2018 standards is still 2 short from 5 in 2018 and for a car at that price point in 2018 it doesn’t matter what a b or fg falcon is

Also no need to rubbish the earlier model falcons they are great cars in their own right and for some of us it’s not we are idiots who drive falcons , just some of us can’t readily pay the cash for the so called ancap 2 or 3 mustang ...

So lay it off mate ...

[GO FURTHER]

Originally Posted by Fiji

I was in usa... looked nothing special. Looks far less aggressive than previous mustangs. In the usa they also use basic wheels etc.

We actually hired one. Mehhh..

They may run low 12s at 100% throttle but its all gearbox keeping the revs right up.. day to day driving it feels nothing like a low 12 second car.

I actually waved down a race between a mustang 2018 vs a dodge challenger. The mustang got away from it.

At least here in Australia we get the Premium pack as standard, including leather interior and Sat Nav, and even my 19 inch Ecoboost stock wheels are the expensive performance model wheels in the US, so we do get a lot for our money.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by radler

Well you can call people idiots but lane departure to get from 2 to 3 doesn’t sound like an earnest effort to substantially improve safety

2 by 2017 standards and 3 by 2018 standards is still 2 short from 5 in 2018 and for a car at that price point in 2018 it doesn’t matter what a b or fg falcon is

Also no need to rubbish the earlier model falcons they are great cars in their own right and for some of us it’s not we are idiots who drive falcons , just some of us can’t readily pay the cash for the so called ancap 2 or 3 mustang ...

So lay it off mate ...

It burns ?

So you’re one of the ones that have carried on about the Mustang ?

Good luck

[radler]

No I actually think the mustang is an awesome car

Just commenting on the ancap stuff , that’s all ...

[Mercury Bullet]

Originally Posted by Falcon SXR8

Long way to an 11 from a mid 12

Usually yeah.

But consider it's the first time out, no tuning done, not even tyre pressures.

There's a lot been left on the table.

[solarite_guy]

Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet

Usually yeah.

But consider it's the first time out, no tuning done, not even tyre pressures.

There's a lot been left on the table.

Consider too, some obvious agendas exist.

Other than the the track sucks as already mentioned by a reputable poster her, sits at high altitude, how was the car optioned?

That right there can make a world of difference.

This story wreaks of another agenda.

[solarite_guy]

Originally Posted by solarite_guy

Other than the the track sucks as already mentioned by a reputable poster her, sits at high altitude, how was the car optioned? .

Typo correction.

track sucks as already mentioned by a reputable poster HERE

Yes, WorkHorse is very reputable in the Workshop section.

[stevefreestyle]

Originally Posted by XWGT

5.21 for the manual in 2018?
Hmmm

While the Auto is MUCH quicker than the Manual, these times are rediculously slow for both Auto & Manual - Halfwit incompetent "Jurnos" with an anti Ford Bias again... This car is "faster than a Porsche 911 - 0-60mph"

Faster Than You Can Read This Headline: New Mustang GT Can Go 0-to-60 MPH in Less Than Four Seconds
Jul 24, 2017 | DEARBORN, Mich.

* 2018 Mustang GT in Drag Strip mode can reach 60 mph in under four seconds – faster than a Porsche 911 and setting a new standard as the fastest Mustang GT ever

* Redesigned 5.0-liter V8 with all-new available 10-speed SelectShift® automatic sees power increased to 460 horsepower and 420 lb.-ft. of torque

* Drag Strip mode optimizes torque, transmission and newly available custom-designed Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S tires to deliver maximum acceleration and performance in straight-line driving

DEARBORN, Mich., July 24, 2017 – Ford’s most advanced and powerful Mustang GT is also the fastest ever, achieving 0-to-60-mph in less than four seconds in Drag Strip mode.

The new Mustang is also faster than a $94,000 Porsche 911 Carrera, which Carl Widmann, Mustang chief engineer, attributes to five factors:

Improved horsepower and torque output of the redesigned 5.0-liter V8
Maximum acceleration of available Drag Strip mode
Quicker, smoother shifting of the available 10-speed SelectShift® transmission
Optimized traction courtesy of the available custom-designed Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S tires on new Performance Pack

“Typically, when you shift gears, you give up time,” said Widmann. “In Drag Strip mode, the engine torque doesn’t drop when you’re shifting. You get peak engine torque and horsepower straight through thanks to our new Ford-built 10-speed transmission.”

The car’s 5.0-liter V8 now features dual-fuel, high-pressure direct injection and low-pressure port fuel injection technology for increased power and efficiency. The engine’s 460 horsepower and 420 lb.-ft. of torque represent improvements over the current model’s 435 horsepower and 400 lb.-ft. The result is an engine that delivers robust low-end torque, high-rpm power and improved fuel efficiency.

Drivers of EcoBoost®-equipped Mustang also will feel increased power on the strip. The retuned EcoBoost four-cylinder generates 310 horsepower and 350 lb.-ft. of torque – a 30 lb.-ft. gain over the current model. In Drag Strip mode with Performance Package and the 10-speed automatic, the 2018 EcoBoost-powered Mustang posts an impressive 0-to-60-mph time of under five seconds.

Drag Strip mode – one of five driver-selectable modes available for 2018 – has been designed to provide maximum acceleration and performance for straight-line driving. Drag Strip mode is primarily controlled by the transmission and delivers a significant acceleration boost, eliminating the lost time usually associated with automatic shifting.

The new 10-speed transmission, with a wide-ratio span and optimized gear spacing, helps deliver higher average power for acceleration – resulting in improved responsiveness and performance. The 10-speed architecture features Ford-patented power-flow and Ford-patented direct-acting hydraulic controls. It’s designed for optimum ratio progression and efficiency, and provides more accurate, quicker upshift and downshift capability.

In addition, an all-new electronic control system features real-time adaptive shift-scheduling algorithms engineered to help ensure the right gear is engaged at the right time, including skip-shift and direct downshift capability.

Compared to the outgoing six-speed, the new 10-speed automatic has quicker shift times and better low-speed tip-in response. It’s uniquely tuned for all five drive modes – normal, sport, track, Drag Strip and snow/wet. Steering wheel-mounted shift paddles allow drivers maximum manual control.

“Gearing matters, and in Drag Strip mode, this car launches better than ever off the line,” said Widmann.

https://media.ford.com/content/fordm...ustang-GT.html

[Mercury Bullet]

Originally Posted by solarite_guy

Consider too, some obvious agendas exist.

Other than the the track sucks as already mentioned by a reputable poster her, sits at high altitude, how was the car optioned?

That right there can make a world of difference.

This story wreaks of another agenda.

Haha, I was trying to be nice.

[sixman]

Have you guys seen the Motor dyno runs done by Herrod?
50kw more power on the hub dyno compared to the '17 models. That explains a lot, let alone the transmission upgrades

[jpd80]

I suspect that the Mustang used for 1/4 mile runs was a regular GT, not a Sport Pack.

The regular GT 10-speed auto runs through 3.15 diff, not the 3.5:1 used in Sports pack.

500 RWHP with Cold Air, Long tube heders E85 and a tune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d16dLr4pmGA

[ivorya]

Sorry to bring this up,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtjJ0PzTRz4

Cue the Violinists.

[jgmdat]

Originally Posted by ivorya

Sorry to bring this up,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtjJ0PzTRz4

Cue the Violinists.

Nice work you have just tried to turn a discussion about acceleration to safety.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by jgmdat

Nice work you have just tried to turn a discussion about acceleration to safety.

Nice deflection.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by ivorya

Sorry to bring this up,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtjJ0PzTRz4

Cue the Violinists.

Cue the conspiracists who'll suggest the conditions werent favourable for the Mustang..lol

[GO FURTHER]

Originally Posted by ivorya

Sorry to bring this up,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtjJ0PzTRz4

Cue the Violinists.

What I hate about these safety crash tests, is the car always hits a solid non-movable object.

It's like driving your car into a concrete wall!

Now honestly, how often is that likely to happen?
When was the last time you drove your car into a brick wall at speed?

Sure, you can run off the road and hit a big oak tree I guess.

But most serious car crashes are likely going to be involving hitting another vehicle that is going to take some of the impact energy and crumple itself, lessening the impact damage to your own car.

Safety crash tests only show you the worst case scenario.

[ivorya]

Originally Posted by jgmdat

Nice work you have just tried to turn a discussion about acceleration to safety.

I thought some of the discussion here was about Safety? (S_itStirrers)

Maybe your eyes skipped that or you can't read?

[Nikked]

Shows how different 2 5-star rated cars crumble...

[jgmdat]

Originally Posted by ivorya

I thought some of the discussion here was about Safety? (S_itStirrers)

Maybe your eyes skipped that or you can't read?

My reading is fine ,thanks for your concern. Just gets a bit boring all the anti Mustang tripe on a Ford forum that is all.
That's the internet i suppose.

[Mercury Bullet]

Isn't there another thread about mustang ancap?

This one is about 2018 acceleration.