Smashed it. - Page 2

NudgE^SIKBRO · 30-04-2007, 08:23 PM

Hey good to hear ya ok n stuff... and me not one to miss out on a buck but still not wanting to sound like a C$%T i have a mint EF Bonnet for sale... if your interested

Sundeep · 30-04-2007, 08:28 PM

Cash the reg and tub the fvcker.

Doug you can borrow the EA annnyyyy time. Just not when it's raining ;) Same goes for the EL... just not when it's raining ;)

Sundeep

Tiga_EL · 30-04-2007, 08:41 PM

woah thats a shame. Couldve been worse though i guess.

The Goodz · 30-04-2007, 08:46 PM

Jeebus that's a deep scratch! Glad to hear you're ok, and really it isn't out of your abilities to fix it, I say leave it be for a little while then get stuck into it! Easier than buying another e-series and respraying that too!

Alex

LTDHO · 30-04-2007, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Dose

Douglas not cool man.

Accidents recently:
-Joe
-Da Fish
-My old lady
-Rips' old man pretty much writing off their other EL
-You

:( After all the work.

Sundeep

There was another recently too.

6 cars to many!

Felony · 30-04-2007, 10:05 PM

Good thing your ok doug, hope it all works out mate,
cheers

sphell · 30-04-2007, 10:10 PM

Thanks guys

I've been thinking about what to do all night, I don't mind that the car is stacked it's just the fact that now I have to spend more weekends rubbing back and painting again

: To be honest I can't be stuffed, but I will cause the rest of the car is mint and I've got a lot of go-fast bits sitting round waiting to go on. I might get full comp now though, so if it ever happens again I don't have to stuff around painting ****.

Rmyers - the trans lines are fine mate, I just noticed earlier on Sunday that the trans lost drive for a bit going to the video shop then it would make a weird noise (kinda like a dog yelping) when it engaged the gear. Dunno what's going on with it.

TUF.EB · 30-04-2007, 10:14 PM

Sorry to hear man, all that work getting it painted and looking mint went down the drain in a few seconds.

Hope you get it repaired and going again! Glad to hear you ok at the least, could have ended up a lot worse at that speed.

UNEZED · 30-04-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LTDHO

There was another recently too.

6 cars to many!

im not sure but u mite be thinkin of eb_lightning with his left rear smashed

UNEZED · 30-04-2007, 10:15 PM

dam that car looks so mint as well i only saw it once i think but not good to hear at all mate

**Professor Farnsworth** · 30-04-2007, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sphell

Thanks guys

I've been thinking about what to do all night, I don't mind that the car is stacked it's just the fact that now I have to spend more weekends rubbing back and painting again

: To be honest I can't be stuffed, but I will cause the rest of the car is mint and I've got a lot of go-fast bits sitting round waiting to go on. I might get full comp now though, so if it ever happens again I don't have to stuff around painting ****.

Rmyers - the trans lines are fine mate, I just noticed earlier on Sunday that the trans lost drive for a bit going to the video shop then it would make a weird noise (kinda like a dog yelping) when it engaged the gear. Dunno what's going on with it.

not good news doug.

i'm guessing from your initial description that it lost drive to the wheels, then as it re-engaged, since your foot was still on the throttle, it must have jolted and kicked the back end out.

I remember you mentioning a while ago that the transmission was a bit dodgy. Time for a rebuilt i think mate!

-jjM- · 30-04-2007, 10:22 PM

its unreal how it happens, was the same deahlio with me, one second im driving, the next im in a pole, but dam you are prity lucky man, at 100kmph id be shittin myself if i spun out....

thank god your ok

pHaT`eL · 30-04-2007, 11:15 PM

Ohh, that sucks man, im not sure whether I wana paint mine now, seems to be a bit of bad luck :s
Hope this doesnt stop the plans for the car, would be great to see a hot ef

JC · 30-04-2007, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DRHEMI

As Above.........

Was probably the tranny that did it but good to hear your okay.

Care to explain how a transmission makes a car aquaplane? It would be the bald tyres and the wet road. This is why there are legal limits to the amount of tread required on a roadworthy tyre.

Good to see you're OK sphell. Shame to see the car like that though.

mcflux · 30-04-2007, 11:24 PM

I'm very sorry to hear mate :(

What a pain in the *******s!

needfordspeed · 01-05-2007, 01:02 AM

At least your OK man, my panel beater might be able to sort something out for you if you need, you've seen his work and if he can't do it he'll know someone that can, let me know if you wanna get it repaired.

Could have been alot worse though, after seeing Joe's car it looks like you got off lightly.

**Sorted** · 01-05-2007, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JC

Care to explain how a transmission makes a car aquaplane? It would be the bald tyres and the wet road. This is why there are legal limits to the amount of tread required on a roadworthy tyre.
.

Take the time to read the entire thread and find out for yourself

: simple as ABC123

Eb Barbie · 01-05-2007, 10:50 AM

Scary stuff! Glad to hear your alright

DEVL-XR · 01-05-2007, 11:12 AM

Bad luck mate, seems theres a curse with new paint jobs and crashing ATM.

Hope it all turns out for the best.

JC · 01-05-2007, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DRHEMI

Take the time to read the entire thread and find out for yourself

: simple as ABC123

I read the whole thread, and I still don't see how a transmission can cause a car to drift into a truck, and at the point you posted your thoughts, he had only mentioned that it occasionally flared up to 3000rpm. So you have some explaining to do. I personally, would like to hear your theory about how an auto trans can affect steering, or cause the car to aquaplane.

JC · 01-05-2007, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluehoon

ffs girls leave your bitchin in that thread please, don't bring it here!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What thread? This is the thread!

**Bluehoon** · 01-05-2007, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JC

What thread? This is the thread!

wrong thread, apologies.

EFFalcon · 01-05-2007, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JC

I read the whole thread, and I still don't see how a transmission can cause a car to drift into a truck, and at the point you posted your thoughts, he had only mentioned that it occasionally flared up to 3000rpm. So you have some explaining to do. I personally, would like to hear your theory about how an auto trans can affect steering, or cause the car to aquaplane.

cruising along at 2000rpm on a freeway.
trans flares to 3500rpm, suddenly grabs gear properly, wheels attempt to match speed of 3500rpm.

combined with wet weather and average tyres, its deffinately possible.
my car in the dry when the gearbox was flaring between changes caused it to break traction, don't see how this would be much different.

JC · 01-05-2007, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by EFFalcon

cruising along at 2000rpm on a freeway.
trans flares to 3500rpm, suddenly grabs gear properly, wheels attempt to match speed of 3500rpm.

combined with wet weather and average tyres, its deffinately possible.
my car in the dry when the gearbox was flaring between changes caused it to break traction, don't see how this would be much different.

I guess so. At least yours is an explanation I can understand, and it does seem possible, just don't know why the trannie would flare at constant throttle. Something for me to be aware of now anyway - flaring transmission = get fixed to avoid bigger problems. That's all I was after in the first place, really.

Racecraft · 01-05-2007, 01:48 PM

and it can happen JC.. I have had them with a faulty solenoid or damaged clutch pack (cant remember) and the BTR will monetarily find a 'false' neutral.. AS EFFalcon said when it finds the gear again it is no different to doing a neutral dump from slow speeds

JC · 01-05-2007, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Racecraft

and it can happen JC.. I have had them with a faulty solenoid or damaged clutch pack (cant remember) and the BTR will monetarily find a 'false' neutral.. AS EFFalcon said when it finds the gear again it is no different to doing a neutral dump from slow speeds

Yep, I will be keeping an eye on mine from now on and any slipping will be dealt with straight away.

I think the lesson of this thread is to keep the car in the best mechanical condition possible. It's great to have a nice paint job, but if the areas of the car that matter let you down, then the paint job isn't going to save you. So....fix that slipping clutch, and those seizing callipers (as on my EL - until I fixed them last Friday), always have decent tyres, and ensure your suspension is up to scratch.

Having said that, I do feel sorry for sphell, as I know what it's like to be doing up a car and have something happen to it that sets you back a fair way. But at least it's only the car that was damaged.

rodderz · 01-05-2007, 02:16 PM

Watch having cruise control turned on when wet too, one of my mums friends years ago had a bad accident with a car on a waterlogged road and cruise control that kept the throttle constant through it when aquaplaning

These days I think the car's ecu turns it off when it senses t/c coming on (if it has it) but still dangerous nontheless

Dezza · 01-05-2007, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by EFFalcon

cruising along at 2000rpm on a freeway.
trans flares to 3500rpm, suddenly grabs gear properly, wheels attempt to match speed of 3500rpm.

combined with wet weather and average tyres, its deffinately possible.
my car in the dry when the gearbox was flaring between changes caused it to break traction, don't see how this would be much different.

My old auto was doing the same. It was simply dangerous in the wet, due to a stuffed S5 solenoid, and shoddy bands. The 1st to 2nd gearchange in particular was a very nervous experience.

Christiaan · 01-05-2007, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JC

I read the whole thread, and I still don't see how a transmission can cause a car to drift into a truck, and at the point you posted your thoughts, he had only mentioned that it occasionally flared up to 3000rpm. So you have some explaining to do. I personally, would like to hear your theory about how an auto trans can affect steering, or cause the car to aquaplane.

Umm, it's very simple. You're driving along at 100, and suddenly the transmission kicks down to 3rd gear, or spikes as your cruising, causing the rear wheels to lose traction in the wet, and then the car goes sideways.......

The bald tyres wouldn't have helped, but the transmission, if that did happen, i.e: the transmission spiking, could have very well caused the accident.

The BTR is known to spike when it's low on fluid, or when it's on its way to dying.

EDIT: Just realised there was another page of this thread, and saw other peoples explanations, but i'll keep mine up still anyway.

Sundeep · 01-05-2007, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JC

I read the whole thread, and I still don't see how a transmission can cause a car to drift into a truck, and at the point you posted your thoughts, he had only mentioned that it occasionally flared up to 3000rpm. So you have some explaining to do. I personally, would like to hear your theory about how an auto trans can affect steering, or cause the car to aquaplane.

Maybe you've never experienced a retarded BTR? They get a mind of their own. I've owned a total of 8 including the cars they've been in. Each have had their own characteristics, some have been faultless and smooth and others did all sorts of dangerous random ****.

Sundeep