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Old 19-10-2006, 01:20 PM   #31
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i'm hoping that you know every minor road rule to be making a comment like that, otherwise, going by your statement "you shouldn't have got your licence"
How is it a minor road rule? It doesn't take a massive IQ to figure out to park the wrong way you need to drive on the wrong side of the road, which is illegal.
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Old 19-10-2006, 01:35 PM   #32
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How is it a minor road rule? It doesn't take a massive IQ to figure out to park the wrong way you need to drive on the wrong side of the road, which is illegal.
its ok to drive on to the wrong side of the road to do a 3 point turn? maybe when parking he indicated across? i'm sorry but i classify it as a fairly minor rule(it was in a small street) compared to doing something like 170km/h in a 60?
I know that it is a law, but I feel sorry for polyal, as i know if something like that happened to me, it'd **** me to say the least.
Yes it is his own fault, and im sure he will learn from his mistake;)
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Old 19-10-2006, 01:36 PM   #33
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stiff biscuits, if you weren't aware of that Law you shouldn't have got you licence, it's as simple as that. i thought it was quite obvious that you can't drive on the wrong side of the road.
Typical 9 poster Comment. Learn your position before opening your mouth. It isn't something that is taught in driving lessons so Polyal had every reason to not know this rule.

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Old 19-10-2006, 01:52 PM   #34
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Well... i actually know the "street" that Polyal lives in, and there is no 2 lanes. Its a 1 lane street with car parks on both sides, so you drive in the middle of it anyway. So there is no on-coming traffic that would have to be avoided to pull out and get going. Just to give some perspective.

Not saying that it wasn't illegal, just that its one of those shitty fines to get. Like getting told off for driving with your headlights on during the day.
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Old 19-10-2006, 02:00 PM   #35
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This one catches out quite a lot of people, but it does exist for a reason. There are instances where parking in such a manner would be dangerous, and experience tells us there are more than a few with issues differentiating safe and unsafe, hence the blanket rule.

Danny, what on earth makes you think that post count has any bearing on what somebody can comment on?

I suggest you consider your own position: Same as every other user of this forum.
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Old 19-10-2006, 03:00 PM   #36
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Typical 9 poster Comment. Learn your position before opening your mouth. It isn't something that is taught in driving lessons so Polyal had every reason to not know this rule.

Sheesh!
Hey, what is with the personal attack. DM status or a zillion posts does not make you superior.
Everyone here has had 9 posts at one time and there are several here with many thousands of posts who are not old enought to drive yet.

He is basicly right. If you do not have a reasionable grasp of the traffic act as it applies to basic driving and do not have at least a bit of common sense then you should not be on the road.

The parking thing is not a life and death situation and everyone makes mistakes or wrong decissions but I bet Polyal and probably many others won't do it again.

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Old 19-10-2006, 03:44 PM   #37
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Hey, what is with the personal attack. DM status or a zillion posts does not make you superior.
Everyone here has had 9 posts at one time and there are several here with many thousands of posts who are not old enought to drive yet.

He is basicly right. If you do not have a reasionable grasp of the traffic act as it applies to basic driving and do not have at least a bit of common sense then you should not be on the road.

The parking thing is not a life and death situation and everyone makes mistakes or wrong decissions but I bet Polyal and probably many others won't do it again.
yeah better go move my car:P
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Old 19-10-2006, 05:13 PM   #38
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What I want to know is it a police or council issue? I thought it would be council. Sheeez! What happened to the good old days of a warning for a first offence??? If its an expiation notice, like I posted before, its well worth the old writing a letter routine, Sorry Sir, Didn't realize Sir, Kiss my arsz Sir, la la la... I'd like a schekkell for every time a letter got me off a council offence.
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Old 19-10-2006, 05:40 PM   #39
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Hey, what is with the personal attack. DM status or a zillion posts does not make you superior.
Everyone here has had 9 posts at one time and there are several here with many thousands of posts who are not old enought to drive yet.

He is basicly right. If you do not have a reasionable grasp of the traffic act as it applies to basic driving and do not have at least a bit of common sense then you should not be on the road.

The parking thing is not a life and death situation and everyone makes mistakes or wrong decissions but I bet Polyal and probably many others won't do it again.
Apologies, but what I was meaning was more along the lines of, before you go shooting your mouth of a more mainstream well known member of the forums (And someone who isnt known to be at all disrespectful or a hoon of sorts), Hang around for a bit, and get a feel for who might deserve a bit of a spike, and who is genuinely shocked at some misfortune that fell upon them.

I'm sure Polyal didnt know the laws, Im sure many would make that mistake, Theres no need for some yahoo to come on telling him that he's having a whinge and deserves what he got. Come on!?
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Old 19-10-2006, 05:55 PM   #40
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Happened to me once, on a quiet back street, outside my own house.
On my way to work, i realised I had forgotten something, I dashed home, left the drivers door open and flashers on.
i was in the house no more then one minute, got out and there was this parking cop writing me up "facing wrong way". To this day i do not know what a parking cop was doing in my deep suburban quiet street in middle of the day. ( I worked shift)

I nearly ran the b------d over.
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Old 19-10-2006, 06:01 PM   #41
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I've seen people booked for this before aswell. The dude wanted to knock the inspector's head off! Really it is a pretty pathetic rule. There are plenty of rules that you wouldn't know about unless you were done for it I bet. You can't possibly know every rule as they always change.

It's like that "Indicate left whilst going straight on a roundabout" rule. There are plenty of people who don't do it either because they haven't heard of it or they just don't do it, but could be done for it.
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Old 19-10-2006, 06:01 PM   #42
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One reason it is bad to park facing the wrong way is if you had a car parked in front of you and behind you when you to pull out most of your car will be in the road before you can see what is coming.

But it does suck to get a fine for wht is in Europe perfectly legal.
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Old 19-10-2006, 07:25 PM   #43
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And here is the rule (Australian Road Rules)

208 Parallel parking on a road (except in a median strip parking area)

(1) A driver who parks on a road (except in a median strip parking area) must position the driver’s vehicle in accordance with subrules (2) to (8).

(2) The driver must position the vehicle to face:

(a) in the direction of travel of vehicles in the marked lane or line of traffic on, or next to, the part of the road where the driver parks; or
(b) if there is no traffic on, or next to, that part of the road — in the direction in which vehicles could lawfully travel on that part of the road.

(3) If the road is a two-way road, the driver must position the vehicle parallel, and as near as practicable, to the far left side of the road.
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Old 19-10-2006, 07:31 PM   #44
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I too have been done for this. On the southcoast. Angle parked with the bum into the kerb, got back to the car to see a yellow envelope on the windscreen. Like what happens if i was robbing the bank. They foil my getaway plan. i have to reverse first.

I saw the sign after I got the ticket. It said forward facing only. Anyway, just had to pay it.
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Old 19-10-2006, 07:35 PM   #45
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I agree with most posts, it's illegal and shouldn't be done. what amuses me is the cop who lives up the street does it all the time in the patrol car, usually when he comes home for a coffee etc. it makes me wonder if he would drive along the wrong side of the road and ticket me for the same action? how much is the fine? it may be worth trying.
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I too have been done for this. On the southcoast. Angle parked with the bum into the kerb, got back to the car to see a yellow envelope on the windscreen. Like what happens if i was robbing the bank. They foil my getaway plan. i have to reverse first.

I saw the sign after I got the ticket. It said forward facing only. Anyway, just had to pay it.
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Old 19-10-2006, 08:11 PM   #47
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Isnt the whole argument in point that nobody would be hurt etc.

So by this reasoning, If i drive forever in the right hand lane on freeways or multi laners, and get pinged for it at a time when no cars where around me I could argue same.

If this argument did work, the law would be infinitely more complex with constant arguments that any particular action would not have resulted in injury.

Its a law, you broke it, pay up and move on.
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i'd like to support Polyal on this subject, and basically tell SlickedXR8 where to stick it.

How the hell do you expect every road user to know EVERY damn 'road rule' out there? A little bit of common sense should prevail every now and again.

Oh, and as for parking backwards, i did this in my lisence test and the examiner confirmed AFTER i parked "backwards" in a residential street that it was perfectly legal...not recommended because some douche-bag would do it on a main road but if it is obviously safe then yes....IT'S LEGAL!!!!! i passed my test that day

any comments SlickedXR8?
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Isnt the whole argument in point that nobody would be hurt etc.

So by this reasoning, If i drive forever in the right hand lane on freeways or multi laners, and get pinged for it at a time when no cars where around me I could argue same.

If this argument did work, the law would be infinitely more complex with constant arguments that any particular action would not have resulted in injury.

Its a law, you broke it, pay up and move on.
that's the whole point! he was parked in a small, hardly used residential street!!! where is your common sense???

no crap if you drive on a freeway on the wrong side you should be locked up in a mental institute but on a residential street that would be considered safe??? come off it mate!
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Ah, read and comprehend mate. I said the right hand lane not the wrong side of the road.

The whole point is he broke the law simple enough to understand I thought. Apparently not.
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Oh, and as for parking backwards, i did this in my lisence test and the examiner confirmed AFTER i parked "backwards" in a residential street that it was perfectly legal...not recommended because some douche-bag would do it on a main road but if it is obviously safe then yes....IT'S LEGAL!!!!! i passed my test that day

any comments SlickedXR8?


so your point is your driving instructor knows more about the road rules than the police? Interesting theory.
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You have no insurance doing this either.

Im another whos totally against it and think that anyone whos stupid enough to park their vehicle the wrong way on a street is a loser. Your Reflectors are pointing the wrong direction and can put drivers off, not to mention the fact that the front of the car doesnt have any reflective device asside from the number plate.
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Typical 9 poster Comment. Learn your position before opening your mouth. It isn't something that is taught in driving lessons so Polyal had every reason to not know this rule.

Sheesh!
Its common sense for christ sake!!
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Its common sense for christ sake!!
no, common sense is saying "i'd have to be a really really really stupid person to drive head on into that safely parked car over there, my excuse would be 'he was parked backwards'."

Guess what buddy, its a 5metre long hunk of metal either way. It doesn't matter which way it's parked.

polyal, please post a pic of this hardly used street to shut these people up
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so your point is your driving instructor knows more about the road rules than the police? Interesting theory.
are you saying EXAMINERS, not instructors, aren't qualified to examine us? i guess we are all in the s**t then.
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are you saying EXAMINERS, not instructors, aren't qualified to examine us? i guess we are all in the s**t then.
Lol, I think i'd trust a cop to know the law better than an examiner.
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no, common sense is saying "i'd have to be a really really really stupid person to drive head on into that safely parked car over there, my excuse would be 'he was parked backwards'."

Guess what buddy, its a 5metre long hunk of metal either way. It doesn't matter which way it's parked.

polyal, please post a pic of this hardly used street to shut these people up
Its not legal, that says it all for me. Plus you have the Insurance problem.

Try driving in Fog early morning, i know a bloke who drove straight into a car parked in a street under a car cover, not exactly the same but because there were no reflectors he didnt see it.

Anyways, its dumb and I very much doubt a driving instructor would condone it unless he or she is a complete ****wit.
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This is like the 105km/h in a 100 zone at 2am. Is it dangerous? Who cares. It is illegal. Argueing that it should or should not be legal or it is legal in other countries is irrelevent.

If you want to change the law you all know how to do it........
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You'll also get done if you park the correct way but have your left hand wheels more than 200mm from the curb... $70 and the charge was "Left side wheels too far from curb" I only parked that far out from the curb so my missus could get out of her door, there was a tree close to the road.
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