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Gotta love how the experts like to proclaim "it's the LAW", as though Moses is gonna come down from the Mountain and Smite Thee.
I'm not sure what rules different states have, but certainly nobody in WA gives a rats ****. We're talking about the controlled consumption of maybe 1 part per thousand. So provided your car still complies with the relevant ADRs, and isn't demonstrably dirty, there would be no problem. We're actually far stricter on Underground mines, all vehicles have to be routinely tested. But these were open pit haul trucks. As a general rule, we insist on compliance to Australian Standards, but I'm not even sure what standard exist for these engines. Even on the mid-sized trucks, the engines are around 70L. The big ones are over 100. |
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I have heard of one such trucking company that got caught dumping their waste oil into their diesel tank. And burning it off that way. Highly illegal.
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old valiants i had were that sort of oil burner. so long as you kept them topped up, they'd keep going and going...
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I'd be really interested to know what law they were found guilty of breaking? Only thing I can think of is perhaps a law related to the disposal of hazardous waste.
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Rotary engines also burnt oil to keep their apex seals lubricated.
e.g. http://www.rx8help.com/before_you_buy/burning_oil.html and https://nationalspeedinc.com/advanta...rotary-engine/ Quote:
....and of course as those apex seals wear out they burn even more oil.
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I still don't understand why you would do it other than avoid the cost of waste disposal of the old oil. perhaps the Trucking company was actually dumping it, their excuse was its recycled into the trucks..
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Dodgy bros and Black diesel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTF4WEfJeuI and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl3a86MT4yM
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what a lot of K#@king around to save a few bucks and potentially destroy your engine.
Might as well pour in some used Fish n chip oil too
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More on "black diesel" here http://www.dieseltechmag.com/2014/09/oil-as-fuel and http://www.oiltofuel.com/
I know a several what I would call eccentric farmers in the WA wheat-belt were doing this in the later 80's early 90's and claimed the fuel cost savings (getting the used oil free from neighbours etc) more than made up for any reduced engine life. But many of their neighbors also had the view that they might be slowly killing themselves from the blue cloud of noxious exhaust gas that they were emitting from their tractors and wouldn't even donate their used oil for fear of complicity. It would be interesting to know if indeed their rate of terminal cancers was higher. The view I came to was if the used oil had been refined to some homogeneous standard and the diesels engines and their fuel and emission systems had been designed to use such oil it might have been practical. But it was home brew stuff on engines designed for cleaner diesel. It's probably akin to ship's bunkering oil http://www.vancouversun.com/technolo...350/story.html
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I do, It's cleaner than diesel when its filtered right.
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