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Old 21-04-2009, 07:48 PM   #31
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Oh and they didnt take the TV, VCR, DVD player, PS2, Set top Box, Crystal, silver plates etc.
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Old 21-04-2009, 07:52 PM   #32
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I was broken into when I was asleep.

I now sleep with a 6-D cell Maglite, phone and 6 inch knife under the mattress.
hahaha ya bloody drip!! - you didn't wake up anyway!!!
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Old 21-04-2009, 08:01 PM   #33
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Just need to vent people and also ask for help!

my first home was broken into today in Perth NOR, only owned the place for just over 6 months i am currently working away and my mrs lives in the house by herself but works during the day. We've been wanting to alarm the place but with our wedding coming up this year money hasn't really been there to spend it on alarms, now i suppose we have no choice.

They took a few valuables, we have nothing in the house worth ALOT which we are lucky for but they did take alot of sentimental jewellery, and a couple of my chains and necklaces are quite expensive and have heavy sentimental value which sucks. They must have been looking for cash as they tipped absolutely everything upside down, papers/boxes etc are everywhere.

Now i am worried the house is a target, does anyone have any security friends that are looking for work in Perth??? I want to alarm the place asap but can't ring around till tomorrow morning. Any advice/suggestions?

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I'd suggest buying a dog, they are a good deterrent.

I had a really close call the other week when I was staying over at a friends house (Bibra Lake) and decided to leave my car on the curb infront of their house.

After a few days, I decided to head back home around 11pm. Only hours later 3 cars parked on the curbs right next to where my car would have been got broken into!!

They stole clothing, iPods and cameras.

I bought a lotto ticket the next day to no avail. :(
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Old 21-04-2009, 08:02 PM   #34
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hahaha ya bloody drip!! - you didn't wake up anyway!!!
LOL No I didn't that time cause I had just finished a 10 hour day straight after a day of duty... that's 34 hours at work. So I was dead to the world that night. Nowadays I pretty much wake up for anything.
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Old 22-04-2009, 11:21 AM   #35
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Can I suggest shutters on all the windows. My parents have them and they are pretty good. You can lock them in when you go out or on holidays, but they can be easily opened, especially in an emergency like a fire. I think they can be a little expensive depending on what you need but they obviously last along time. Just a thought as alarms don't physically stop them coming in the house and bars on the windows look ugly and in an emergency can't be taken off (correct me if i'm wrong on this one). It maybe worth looking into.
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Old 22-04-2009, 11:33 AM   #36
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Heard of a bloke in a unit on the side of castle hill doing the nail and board trick he was on the first floor and park dwellars would run down the side of the hill and jump onto his balcony . He had been broken into a few times ,worked out what was happening broke bottles and put boards with nails into them under his balcony and then unscrewed his railing . The next person who tried to break in grabbed hold of the railing falling straight onto the boards and broken glass and then went to hospital .
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Old 22-04-2009, 11:48 AM   #37
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I hate to play the PC line, but remember the poor dears can sue home owners for 'personal injury'.

Not that I care about em . . . .

I thought that at the time Aboriginal legal aid would have sued the bloke in the unit but he said that the park dwellars had been smashing bottles and throwing rubbish there and he was hiring a trailer to clean it all up
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Old 22-04-2009, 11:58 AM   #38
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A friend found an 15 year old aboriginal in his house chased him down the steps saying im going to kill you the theif threw a stolen bike at him .
The police took the bike and the black fellas come back looking for it a few times he was broken into 5:00 on a Friday afternoon it was the 15th breakin the officer knew of that day.
The officer did have a good story the week before one of these kids broke into a house with 5 adult Samoans living there one of them grabbed him and the aboriginal said im here for the party here is my $5 entry fee the reply was i dont think so . After a ferocious bashing the police where called
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Old 22-04-2009, 12:20 PM   #39
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The SYSTEM lets us all down, OK some people are hard done by and need help, BUT if your getting done for the third time Break and Enter/Theft to support a habbit,
You should bloody well be locked up!

Its that simple.

Build more prisons, introduce Hasher Penalties or get used to seeing us average blokes up before the Magistrate and the offender in hospital or the morgue!

Im out of patients, and have lost way too much of my life to these Low Life Scumbags, from now on my defence is,
But officer I was only defending myself, he (that bloodied mess on the ground) fell onto the shovel, HONEST !!!!!
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Old 22-04-2009, 12:29 PM   #40
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We gotten broken into half a dozen times over a period of 6 months
at the last place we lived in. The solution was easy.
A REALLY BIG SAVAGE DOG!! (Rotti Shepard cross in our case)
In fact we went over seas for a holiday for a couple of weeks last
year and someone had obviously tried while we were away.
When we returned home 2 weeks later there was a t shirt that neither of
us owned in the back yard torn to shreds.
Would've loved to have seen the little f...ers faces when the boy came
bounding around the corner. :evil3: :evil3:
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Old 22-04-2009, 12:39 PM   #41
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We gotten broken into half a dozen times over a period of 6 months
at the last place we lived in. The solution was easy.
A REALLY BIG SAVAGE DOG!! (Rotti Shepard cross in our case)
In fact we went over seas for a holiday for a couple of weeks last
year and someone had obviously tried while we were away.
When we returned home 2 weeks later there was a t shirt that neither of
us owned in the back yard torn to shreds.
Would've loved to have seen the little f...ers faces when the boy came
bounding around the corner. :evil3: :evil3:
same, came home one day to find a pot plant knocked over near the kitchen window... Then hanging up the washing found a shoe that wasn't mine, and a big splat mark in the mud behind the fence on the neighbours side.. I can only imagine old mate thinking it was a walk in the park until my dog came around for a looksee
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I hate to play the PC line, but remember the poor dears can sue home owners for 'personal injury'.
Of course they can. But they never win. And I mean, NEVER.

And they never do sue anyway. So there's nothing to be afraid of, if you are protecting your own property.
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Old 22-04-2009, 06:36 PM   #43
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the aboriginal said im here for the party here is my $5 entry fee the reply was i dont think so . After a ferocious bashing the police where called


My dad caught an aboriginal bloke breaking in once. He legged it and yelled out "I was just checkin the time". Haha yeah sure buddy.
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Old 22-04-2009, 07:37 PM   #44
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Heard of a bloke in a unit on the side of castle hill doing the nail and board trick he was on the first floor and park dwellars would run down the side of the hill and jump onto his balcony . He had been broken into a few times ,worked out what was happening broke bottles and put boards with nails into them under his balcony and then unscrewed his railing . The next person who tried to break in grabbed hold of the railing falling straight onto the boards and broken glass and then went to hospital .
what a good one!

some pretty posh places there too
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Old 22-04-2009, 07:50 PM   #45
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Build more prisons, introduce Hasher Penalties
We can all dream of this but our Labor governments prefer to spend money on advisors (I used to be one) rather than infrastructure and only talk about harsher penalties.

If they actually enact harsher penalties they then need to find the funds to build and run the prisons.

Now as they like handing money out (rather then collecting it) they might upset someone who might not vote for them again if they raise the funds

And because they love power it will not happen

Get used to it

They are in for a long time.
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Old 22-04-2009, 08:00 PM   #46
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You could buy a nice big dog!, most people wont try anything with a German shepard or a rottie in the yard!
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Old 22-04-2009, 08:25 PM   #47
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Some security ideas from one that works in insurance:

Deadlocks on all doors (these must be used when at home too to work) It stops thieves having an easy getaway. and stops the larger items going.\

At night when you go to bed, take your watch, wallet, purses, keys into a bedside drawer. If you are broken into whilst asleep its less likely they will disturb the room your are in.

NEVER leave spare keys at home. (if you put them in a safe that is fixed to the floor) My wife carrys one set, I carry the other. If we are broken into we don't need to worry the thieves have found a set of keys and can come back, not to mention the keys for the car are not there so that can not be easily stolen.

The safe I spoke of above, dyna bolt it to the concrete slab and put valuables in that.

My last suggestion will sound stupid to most but it does make a lot of sense if you think about it.

Keep your place immaculatly clean and in order.
- linen closet all sheets and towels folded and in order
- kitchen cupboards and drawers uncluttered and in order
- closets all clothes hung up and in order
etc.
The idea of this is if someone does get in your place, if they can see what is where it is less likely the place will be ransacked.
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Old 22-04-2009, 08:39 PM   #48
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Some security ideas from one that works in insurance:

Deadlocks on all doors (these must be used when at home too to work) It stops thieves having an easy getaway. and stops the larger items going.\

At night when you go to bed, take your watch, wallet, purses, keys into a bedside drawer. If you are broken into whilst asleep its less likely they will disturb the room your are in.

NEVER leave spare keys at home. (if you put them in a safe that is fixed to the floor) My wife carrys one set, I carry the other. If we are broken into we don't need to worry the thieves have found a set of keys and can come back, not to mention the keys for the car are not there so that can not be easily stolen.

The safe I spoke of above, dyna bolt it to the concrete slab and put valuables in that.

My last suggestion will sound stupid to most but it does make a lot of sense if you think about it.

Keep your place immaculatly clean and in order.
- linen closet all sheets and towels folded and in order
- kitchen cupboards and drawers uncluttered and in order
- closets all clothes hung up and in order
etc.
The idea of this is if someone does get in your place, if they can see what is where it is less likely the place will be ransacked.

Thankfully I have not been broken into. I am a light sleeper and any noise wakes me up anyway. A few samurai swords in my cupboard as a back up. They are not sharpened but would you mess with a guy holding a samurai sword.

Anyway as far as security goes. We always leave one light on (partly because we have a 3yr old and 5 week old), I only ever open the blinds when I am home and even then they are opened in a fashion that people can't see my stuff. Windows get shut as soon as it is dark. My phone, keys and wallet go to bed with me. Now in saying that I do sit around my house during the day with the back door wide open (although you would have to open the gate to get to it) I leave my car unlocked with the windows down.

The final thing is to steal from me you either have to do it from the front or the back. We live in a set of units so at the back there are usually people who will see anyone enter our property (during the day), and our bedroom window is right next to the gate so if you open that I will wake up, and out the front we are the front unit meaning you would have to break in, in full view of the public as our front door is 5m from a T-Junction (we face it) and all our front facing windows. There is no windows to smash on the side of our unit. So it is either front or back.

So we feel secure but it never stops me wondering while I am away what I will find. That is why insurance is always handy.

I guess I am lucky so far.
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Had a mate who was feeding 2 rottweilers at a house when the owners went on holidays . One of the rottweilers was acting crazy choking and there was blood everywhere and a broken window they got a vet around ,the dog had something lodged in its throat 2 fingers and a bit of someones palm the police found a vietnamese guy who had gone to hospital missing part of his hand.
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First place we moved into(twenty years ago)got done over a week after we moved in.They kicked in the back door grabbed one of them big stripey bags and proceeded to fill it up with every thing that fitted in.they took;blf jacket,aftershave kit ,double bed quilt,great uncles coin collection,plus a whole heap of crap I cant rememeber.But they also took my bull terrier(yes a real one)Although he was only three mnths old.
Some old lady up the street saw them leaving the premises but didnt want to make a statement.The cops went around and asked a few questions, asked to look around and found nothing.They asked if they had a dog and they said yeah its out the back we found it walking down the street.
At least we got the dog back.
Turned out to be some young indian kids who lived in the next street(police new exactly where to go).Their father was a religous freak who owned the biggest house on the block. :
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Deadlocks on all doors (these must be used when at home too to work) It stops thieves having an easy getaway. and stops the larger items going.
DO NOT deadlock doors when you or anybody else is in your house. Deadlocks keep people in as much as they keep people out.

Reasons are therefore threefold:

1. Your house catches fire, you or one of your kids burn to death before they get the damn thing open.
2. Someone enters your house whilst your wife is at home - when she disturbs them they will likely run. Make sure they have the easiest path out of your house as possible.
3. Someone enters your house whilst your wife is at home - she can't get out to safety.
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The problem with throwing these mongrels into jail, is we're paying for them to be there. They get out, bust into other places and we pay for them to have a longer holiday. Seems real fair doesn't it.

Dogs and cut tin fences are a good deterant.
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if hasnt been mentioned already . put up security cameras, real or dummy. both easily done . and signs accordingly.
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DO NOT deadlock doors when you or anybody else is in your house. Deadlocks keep people in as much as they keep people out.

Reasons are therefore threefold:

1. Your house catches fire, you or one of your kids burn to death before they get the damn thing open.
2. Someone enters your house whilst your wife is at home - when she disturbs them they will likely run. Make sure they have the easiest path out of your house as possible.
3. Someone enters your house whilst your wife is at home - she can't get out to safety.

to true . people will get in if they want to . best make it less damaging , and less hassle , for a quick exit. get them on camera inside and outside in the process . is the best bet.
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to true . people will get in if they want to . best make it less damaging , and less hassle , for a quick exit. get them on camera inside and outside in the process . is the best bet.

Good idea, but there's the identifying process, which may never occur.

Sorry, but my thought is prevention is better than the cure
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if hasnt been mentioned already . put up security cameras, real or dummy. both easily done . and signs accordingly.

I think something was mentioned about signs being up and it didn't work.
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I've got the works - camera, stickers, workboots and dog bowl on the porch (even if I don't have a dog).
I have a rear courtyard with 6-foot fences adjacent to neighbouring backyards. Surrounded by pensioners on all sides on a quiet street. Ours is the back house on a subdivided lot (of 2 houses) with a long wide driveway leading up to it (good visibility). My neighbour in the front house is a tough bloke with a heart of gold - he's a photographer for car & bike magazines, and sometimes his bikie mates come by. They're all good blokes, and a very effective deterrent to would-be thieves!
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A dog barking and human skeleton on the lawn seems to stop them.. Lol..
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