2012 Chrysler 300C Pricing and Specs Released..

[RASER]

After sales and service wont be a patch on the local 2 RWD's.

Not enough dealers to price shop it.

Nobody really knows about them and the faults/fixes.

Still 23% Benz DNA.

BUT the BIGGEST scandal is putting Lancia Thema stickers on it in, Vincenzo would not be impressed, and neither would true lovers on Lancia

Wait for the all new next generation, this is mutton dressed up as lamb.

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by RASER

After sales and service wont be a patch on the local 2 RWD's.

Not enough dealers to price shop it.

Nobody really knows about them and the faults/fixes.

Still 23% Benz DNA.

BUT the BIGGEST scandal is putting Lancia Thema stickers on it in, Vincenzo would not be impressed, and neither would true lovers on Lancia

Wait for the all new next generation, this is mutton dressed up as lamb.

You can confirm the servicing won't be good? Got facts to back it up?
It really can't be worse than what the locals provide anyway.

Are you also aware that the Chrysler group under Fiat's direction are expanding dealerships at a rapid rate? A quick look at Chrysler's website shows around 15 - 20 dealer ships in Melbourne. Seems to be enough dealerships I would think. Covers the main areas.

Their service dept staff will be trained to undertake any service related activities just like any other car maker.

23% Merc DNA is a bad thing? It is loosely based on a superseded E-Class platform.

They're expanding into other markets where the Lancia badge is well recognised. Not seeing the issue.

Haters will always hate.

[RASER]

Originally Posted by Wretched

Haters will always hate.

I don't hate it, but don't like it either, nothing new and unique here, not for me, enjoy yours, i like JEEP's though.... a lot [And Fiat's too]

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by RASER

I don't hate it, but don't like it either, nothing new and unique here, not for me, enjoy yours, i like JEEP's though.... a lot [And Fiat's too]

I'm not buying one, have no desire to own one.
Though I can appreciate the vehicle for what it is, there is nothing inherently wrong with it.

[GQ_Smooth]

What happens to companies when they expand at a rapid rate?

Chrysler will be glad you are so optomistic about their ability to handle the influx of new customer and models, and the management processes they have put in place.

I personally don't beleive they are in a position to handle the volume of work (aftersales wise) that will come their way, with their local expertise and international support from their parent. I don't believe they will handle the work to an acceptable customer satisfaction level (particularly with their aggressive pricing strategy, not alot of margin based Australia's volume, less margin they make less money they can invest), you don't need to beleive what I say, just wait to see the result.

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by RASER

After sales and service wont be a patch on the local 2 RWD's.

Wouldn't take much to better it.

I like it but too much chrome around the rear definitely shows it's American.

[RASER]

Originally Posted by GQ_Smooth

What happens to companies when they expand at a rapid rate?

Chrysler will be glad you are so optomistic about their ability to handle the influx of new customer and models, and the management processes they have put in place.

I personally don't beleive they are in a position to handle the volume of work (aftersales wise) that will come their way, with their local expertise and international support from their parent. I don't believe they will handle the work to an acceptable customer satisfaction level (particularly with their aggressive pricing strategy, not alot of margin based Australia's volume, less margin they make less money they can invest), you don't need to beleive what I say, just wait to see the result.

+1

They will need a generation to catch up to the others here in AUS., i dont think its a issue buying one in USA though.

Chrysler are always near the bottom in customer issues/faults, maybe Fiat can turn that around like they have with its massive profits they are now making, [abd Fiat are losing!] they got that company for near nothing, no capital outlay, just promise, smoke&mirrors i think thats the *buy* of the century thus far.

[RASER]

Originally Posted by DJM83

Wouldn't take much to better it.

I like it but too much chrome around the rear definitely shows it's American.

LOL

Must be a whole bunch of c/rap Ford dealers here in AUS, inc. the one i purchased my ute from.

BUT, i cannot speak high enough for Victoria's oldest Ford dealer, Bayfords, 100% excellant, highly recommended, bent over backwards and never rejected even multiple questionable warranty issue i had, just did it no questions asked [did not even sell the said vehicle!]....God bless'em

For mine they are the benchmark in Victoria for Ford

[csv8]

The 6.4-litre unit makes an impressive 347kW at 6100rpm and 631Nm at 4150rpm and while Chrysler Australia hasn’t named performance figures, tests this week during the media launch show it will sprint to 100km/h in comfortably less than 6.0 seconds in spite of the SRT8’s 2.0-tonne kerb weight.

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That SRT8’s impressive numbers deliver immediate bragging rights to Chrysler, with HSV’s Clubsport R8 making 317kW and 550Nm from its 6.2-litre V8, while FPV’s GT ekes 335kW and 570Nm from a 5.0-litre supercharged V8.

But it’s the pricing announced this week that most excites Chrysler Australia chief executive Clyde Campbell, with the SRT8’s $66,000 ask undercutting the Clubsport R8 ($69,990) and GT ($71,290) for comparable auto-equipped models.

Features on the SRT8 that are not included on either the HSV or FPV include a driver’s knee airbag; heated and cooled front seats; heated rear seats; Nappa leather trim; swivelling and self-levelling headlights; front parking sensors; proximity key entry; powered steering wheel adjustment; self-levelling rear suspension; heated and cooled front cupholders; 20-inch alloy wheels; and a Harman Kardon 19-speaker, 900-watt audio system.

Campbell says he believes he can use the SRT8’s performance and value as lures to draw HSV and FPV buyers.

“For example, FPV is shrinking its model range. We don’t comment on competitors, but there might be FPV buyers out there who will never buy a ‘red’ car but they might buy one of mine,” he says.


http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor...711-21ux9.html

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by csv8

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That SRT8’s impressive numbers deliver immediate bragging rights to Chrysler, with HSV’s Clubsport R8 making 317kW and 550Nm from its 6.2-litre V8, while FPV’s GT ekes 335kW and 570Nm from a 5.0-litre supercharged V8.

Plenty of dyno tests prove that the GT's 335 Kw/570 nm figure is extremely conservative...

[dimka100]

Regardless of what people think about this car, it sure will steal at least a few private sales from the Holden or Ford camps ... after all its another alternative product in an already shrinking large car segment ... I can not possibly see how Ford or Holden would see this as a positive development in the market place for them.

Also what people fail to forget is that the 300c is developed in the USA with a budget that would blow away any local development, and while this current model may not necessarily tick all the boxes just yet, it does not mean that Chrysler can quickly develop and improve the product (in the USA most makers try to continuously improve their product offering with each passing year, they call them MY models ... )

[mik]

Originally Posted by chevypower

^^^^ i think everyone gets the idea. Anything that isn't a Falcon is ugly.

not at all mate, it`s just dead ugly at the front.

[Franco Cozzo]

I'm more interested in the VM Motori 3L V6 diesel engine, they've been covering it in the last few editions of diesel power magazine, very good engine.

[Cheese3]

I personally really like the look of the new 300, but hey what do i know? i like AU's

[SteveJH]

Unfortunately for Chrysler, at the end of the day the 300C is still based on a 15 year old Mercedes Platform, just like the Taurus is based on a 15 year old Volvo platform.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by SteveJH

Unfortunately for Chrysler, at the end of the day the 300C is still based on a 15 year old Mercedes Platform, just like the Taurus is based on a 15 year old Volvo platform.

Who cares, people will see the car and if they like it, they'll buy it.

They won't go into the dealership, look at the 300C and decide not to buy it because its based on a 15 year old platform from Mercedes.

Car purchase is a emotional thing, not logical

Unless you're a bean counter.

[janddbone]

Originally Posted by SteveJH

Unfortunately for Chrysler, at the end of the day the 300C is still based on a 15 year old Mercedes Platform, just like the Taurus is based on a 15 year old Volvo platform.

Pretty sure the Falcon is on a 50 year old platform........

Not that there is anything wrong with that when developed properly. Also, pretty sure that everyone remarks how far ahead MB are all the time anyway!

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by brett.r.johnstone

Pretty sure the Falcon is on a 50 year old platform........

Nope.

[eb2fairmont]

No but the distance between the sills is the same as the xr falcon...

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

I'm more interested in the VM Motori 3L V6 diesel engine, they've been covering it in the last few editions of diesel power magazine, very good engine.

7.1 l/100 km and 0-100 kph in 7.8 seconds, that's pretty darned good and with pricing
around $48K -$52K depending on model, I think Chrysler will get more than a few inquiries...

Come to think of it, that little V6 Petrol seems to be pretty good too....

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by SteveJH

Unfortunately for Chrysler, at the end of the day the 300C is still based on a 15 year old Mercedes Platform, just like the Taurus is based on a 15 year old Volvo platform.

Wrong and wrong.

The Chrysler LX platform was developed by Chrysler from the LH platform but uses
quite a few bits borrowed from Mercedes, that's what makes the car so good..

The Ford D3 may have started out as a derivative of the Volvo P2 platform but it shares basically nothing with the originator.
Engines, transmissions, wiring harness, computer modules Top Hat framing, all Ford...

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Nope.

Boss, turn on your SARCASM meter..

[nstg8a]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Plenty of dyno tests prove that the GT's 335 Kw/570 nm figure is extremely conservative...

doesnt matter what it dynoes at. what matters is what its badged at.

for pub arguments anyway.

i actually think ford has made a bit of a balls up understating the miami;s power output.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by nstg8a

doesnt matter what it dynoes at. what matters is what its badged at.

for pub arguments anyway.

i actually think ford has made a bit of a balls up understating the miami;s power output.

No they didn't, it gives competitors nowhere to go, if they come at Ford with more power they are on a hiding to nothing.

Pub arguments don't matter, owners know the truth as do their victims..

[EFinSilver]

I hope this car does well,could revive the large car segment quite a bit despite the potential to hurt falcon and commodore sales. I wouldn't buy one myself but it does look impressive.

[FTE]

I cant see the problem with Chrysler growing at a faster rate than our dwindling local cars. Chrysler is the USA's fastest growing auto maker, has been bankrupt before and is doing things smarter and luckily for us they've seen potiential in our small market.
No one seems concerned when Hyundai expand rapidly or any other asian car maker so I cant see why Chrysler would be any different.
It may be auto only but hopefully it remains here coz it could end up being our only rear drive V8 car at an affordable price in the future

[nstg8a]

Originally Posted by jpd80

No they didn't, it gives competitors nowhere to go, if they come at Ford with more power they are on a hiding to nothing.

Pub arguments don't matter, owners know the truth as do their victims..

trouble is they have to actually increase the power if hsv or whoever brings out a more powerful gumboot.

if they just do a sticker job but dont actually change anything then obviously that will be found out in the many media outlets pretty quick.

just look at that article,

That SRT8’s impressive numbers deliver immediate bragging rights to Chrysler, with HSV’s Clubsport R8 making 317kW and 550Nm from its 6.2-litre V8, while FPV’s GT ekes 335kW and 570Nm from a 5.0-litre supercharged V8.

thats what most people will see, simple numbers like that. dont forget most car buyers probably arent aff members.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Still a lot of metal to move for not much more power. Torque is very good though.

Could this start another engine output battle?

Either way, with this on the market it will force the locals to improve their product and sharpen pricing.

What warranty does the new 300c have? Any sort of fixed or capped price program?

[Gezza1er]

Don't know if anyone cares but I work at Chrysler Jeep and Dodge in Perth and we got one of the 300c SRT-8 in I had to do the Pre Delivery on it and then My foreman went for a drive in it with me and i have to say for a heavy car the thing goes bloody well. and it handles surprisingly well. if i had the money i would have one but i don't so.... The only ting i don't like is the rear end it reminds me of a Bentley Continental. IMO

[jpd80]

The last thing FPV and HSV want is a horsepower war, history will tell you the fun police eventually step in and stop it.

It's good to see Chrysler has brought the 300, everyone is looking at the top gun but I think the battle will be waged
with the lower and mid range models, especially the diesels with their 7.1 l/100 km, I can see a few G6E and Calais sales going West..

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Boss, turn on your SARCASM meter..

Problem is a lot of people probably believe it to be true. Just like the people who claim the current I6 is basically a 1960 XK engine with a few changes.