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Old 14-10-2007, 02:37 PM   #31
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Jeez eb2Monty you are harsh. I was struggling to find the right words to use there and you jumped on me.

I accept responisbility for my actions, I assume that you do to, so therefore ave never exceeded the speed limit, either intentionally or otherwise or you could not be so high & mighty.
Yes Myts, I was harsh on you. It's good that you accept responsibility for your actions. Whether I have never exceeded the speed limit is not the point - i don't make excuses if i do - that is the difference. And for the record, in 14 years of driving, I have never got a speeding fine or red light camera fine. But hey, that must mean I'm less of an enthusiast 'cos I don't go above the speed limit. So yeah, that's where the high and mighty stuff comes from I guess.
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Old 14-10-2007, 03:16 PM   #32
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Funny how if the anti flash stuff doesn't work, why in SA are they testing out 'infra-red' flash camera's ?
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Old 14-10-2007, 03:31 PM   #33
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Funny how if the anti flash stuff doesn't work, why in SA are they testing out 'infra-red' flash camera's ?
I have already read about the anti infra red flash spray and a clear perspex type of cover that is clear and hard to see that make's infra red light useless. Think sun screen lotion.

When the government decides to use proper law enforcement to control speeds in this country, and not machines, then people will stop beating them at their own game!!

Revenue should be taken out of the equation, then maybe the law might gain some respect.
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Revenue should be taken out of the equation, then maybe the law might gain some respect.
Here in Victoria they can't, if it wasn't for the fine revenue the state budget would be in the red, a sad and sorry state of affairs.
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Old 14-10-2007, 09:59 PM   #35
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I should get a can for a good friend of mine.

He just got a speed camera fine for doing 65 in 60 zone (beach rd 3 lanes each way, divided road in the daylight) on a vespa.

Someone, anyone tell me we aren't going to far.
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Old 14-10-2007, 10:33 PM   #36
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Has anyone purchased ghost plates - number plate covers which render your licence plate unreadable at certain angles - and received a fine?

Here's a link so you know what I'm on about

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Old 14-10-2007, 10:48 PM   #37
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I should get a can for a good friend of mine.

He just got a speed camera fine for doing 65 in 60 zone (beach rd 3 lanes each way, divided road in the daylight) on a vespa.

Someone, anyone tell me we aren't going to far.
I have a can of the spray that is sprayed to reflect speed camera flash's. By my own test's, during the day it is about 50% effective. At night it is about 90% effective.

All my cars are wearing it. I never go out and deliberately break the speed limit. But I always spend most of my concentration on what is happening around me. Even if I do go over the speed limit, I am a safer driver than someone that rarely takes their eyes off their speedo.
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Old 14-10-2007, 10:49 PM   #38
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Has anyone purchased ghost plates - number plate covers which render your licence plate unreadable at certain angles - and received a fine?

Here's a link so you know what I'm on about

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I have some, they are way to easy to spot. Even the slowest of plods will se them. Save your money.
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Old 14-10-2007, 10:50 PM   #39
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A coordinated sniper attack on all speed cameras across the country by a secretive grass roots guerilla movement would also be effective.

Something powerful like a 50 cal round right through the radar box should take it out of action.

I wonder what it would cost to replace them all at once.

I can only dream....
I have heard that alot of Poms have been throwing tyres over them, filled with fuel and set them alight, Sounds easy to me.... :
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Old 14-10-2007, 10:51 PM   #40
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Has anyone purchased ghost plates - number plate covers which render your licence plate unreadable at certain angles - and received a fine?

Here's a link so you know what I'm on about

http://www.ghostplates.com/
I’ll give you some free advice… Save your money and don’t buy them.

Yes, they work and work well, however, when officer Plod pulls you over to have a chat about them, the conversation will not end well for you.

Edit: OBJ got in before me.
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Old 14-10-2007, 10:53 PM   #41
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I have heard that alot of Poms have been throwing tyres over them, filled with fuel and set them alight, Sounds easy to me.... :
Preffered method is a old blanket doused in kero...... Sound good to me!!!
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Preffered method is a old blanket doused in kero...... Sound good to me!!!
You’ll also need a ladder. Those things are higher than they look.
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Old 14-10-2007, 11:02 PM   #43
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I have been experimenting with these....

http://www.secure-it.com/shop/index.php/cPath/38

I have had some really good results with the new laptop filters. I have located the company in the US and am looking at getting some made to match Australian number plate sizes.

The results are amazing..... Almost impossible to see and virtually impossible to take pictures of your number plate, day or night. My only issue at the moment is how well they weather. Time will tell. I will let anyone know via PM after I have tested them....
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Old 15-10-2007, 12:10 AM   #44
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I have been experimenting with these....

http://www.secure-it.com/shop/index.php/cPath/38

I have had some really good results with the new laptop filters. I have located the company in the US and am looking at getting some made to match Australian number plate sizes.

The results are amazing..... Almost impossible to see and virtually impossible to take pictures of your number plate, day or night. My only issue at the moment is how well they weather. Time will tell. I will let anyone know via PM after I have tested them....
Count me in for a PM...
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Old 15-10-2007, 07:29 AM   #45
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Flip up plates work a treat - much less engineering involved than James Bond style.

Then again you get the people who just cover it in mud, bike racks ect. and go "oh sorry officer I didn't realise, I'll fix that up ASAP"
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Just get a top radar detector, that will do not only cameras but radar aswell.
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Old 15-10-2007, 11:52 AM   #47
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Preffered method is a old blanket doused in kero...... Sound good to me!!!

A little black paint on the lens of a fixed camera would do.

I can't advocate that however.

OBJ I'll have whatever works. Count me in for a set.
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Old 15-10-2007, 12:49 PM   #48
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What about a clear LCD display that turns black once a charge is put through it?
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i just keep it smoked up so all the camera sees is burnout smoke
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Old 15-10-2007, 05:24 PM   #50
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don't speed huh??? yeah right! easier said than done, and i'm no lead foot but when you're stuck on a single lane road with a guy towing a 30ft caravan with a shitbox pathfinder and a convoy of 20 or 30 cars and the only overtaking lane for ages is about 1klm long and everyone wants to get past cos there's no way he'll pull over...........
know where this is going?? bloody right you do!! you can't blame road users for trying to gain an advantage when the fuzz ambush everyone they can using camoflage, deception, lies and crap roads that are poorly maintained and designed.

oh, and yes, i take responsibility for my actions, when i get done, i get done, that's it, it's over and done with, but i don't have to like it and i don't have to admit anything to their poxy little recording devices or their eating grin when they enjoy thieving from my wallet and threatening my livelihood with their arbitrary and opressive demerit points system that has no consideration for road conditions and the like.

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Old 15-10-2007, 08:16 PM   #51
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heres a way to avoid detection - take your number plate of. If flashed by a camera no penalty, BUT, if you get pulled over by a cop expect a $50 fine plus no demerits. Its a gamble but might pay of for some.

And now the easiest way - DONT SPEED!! Simple.
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don't speed huh??? yeah right! easier said than done, and i'm no lead foot but when you're stuck on a single lane road with a guy towing a 30ft caravan with a shitbox pathfinder and a convoy of 20 or 30 cars and the only overtaking lane for ages is about 1klm long and everyone wants to get past cos there's no way he'll pull over...........
know where this is going?? bloody right you do!! you can't blame road users for trying to gain an advantage when the fuzz ambush everyone they can using camoflage, deception, lies and crap roads that are poorly maintained and designed.

oh, and yes, i take responsibility for my actions, when i get done, i get done, that's it, it's over and done with, but i don't have to like it and i don't have to admit anything to their poxy little recording devices or their eating grin when they enjoy thieving from my wallet and threatening my livelihood with their arbitrary and opressive demerit points system that has no consideration for road conditions and the like.

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Thanks Paul.

At least someone else is willing to dare to suggest, against the politically correct, that not everyone who has exceeded the speed limit is a demented speed freak living out a "The Fast & The Furious" fantasy.

Now I need to get a Vespa and go 65 : :
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don't speed huh??? yeah right! easier said than done, and i'm no lead foot but when you're stuck on a single lane road with a guy towing a 30ft caravan with a shitbox pathfinder and a convoy of 20 or 30 cars and the only overtaking lane for ages is about 1klm long and everyone wants to get past cos there's no way he'll pull over...........know where this is going?? bloody right you do!! you can't blame road users for trying to gain an advantage when the fuzz ambush everyone they can using camoflage, deception, lies and crap roads that are poorly maintained and designed.

oh, and yes, i take responsibility for my actions, when i get done, i get done, that's it, it's over and done with, but i don't have to like it and i don't have to admit anything to their poxy little recording devices or their eating grin when they enjoy thieving from my wallet and threatening my livelihood with their arbitrary and opressive demerit points system that has no consideration for road conditions and the like.

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I totally agree with you Paul, the Govt. wants us to act like bloody robots that never put a foot wrong (pun intended)...
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Thanks Paul.

At least someone else is willing to dare to suggest, against the politically correct, that not everyone who has exceeded the speed limit is a demented speed freak living out a "The Fast & The Furious" fantasy.

Now I need to get a Vespa and go 65 : :
Myts, it's actually the politcal correct society where no one blames themselves. Taking responsibility and obeying the road rules isn't politically correct at all. Political correctness is where do-gooders always want to blame everyone else, just like when victims of crime are shafted when criminals get little or no penalty for their actions. Complaining about speeding fines is actually political correctness. Ie, no respect for authority etc etc. That's a politically correct society. Obeying the rules is actually old school society....

And this is not directed at you but is it really a big deal if you're stuck behind a truck to wait 1km when an overtaking lane is available? Hmm 100kmph speed limit. About a 40 second wait. Now I think speeding fine vs 40 secs. I know what I'll choose.
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Touching wood, I have not had a fine in over 20 years. 135+ in a 60 would see me in Gaol today.
I plan to keep it that way, and yes I do still travel above the posted limit in certain areas. Mind you, I get a buzz out of doing near 180 on twisty dirt roads in a 4wd turbo rally car.

There is an idea to set up a system where by infra red LED's are placed around your licence plate and give off enough glare so as to send a white light back to the recording device rendering your plate almost invisible.
As we do not see infrared, when you walk up behind it, nothing.
View it through a lens, and especially now with digital media, it does produce some good results.
You can get LED sets from Jaycar etc and LEDs use near enough nothing in terms of current to have them on at all times.
This method is not setup to work, but uses their new infrared technology against them.
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How to avoid cameras getting you?
Buy a new Commode ute, and drop the tailgate down. the plate is now in the tailgate of the new models.
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Oh look, another NT road toll statistic since speed limits were imposed on rural roads.

Such brilliance, such expertise:-
http://www.keepntlimitfree.org/Forum...fault.aspx#367


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Whats the fine for modding your plate. A bit of blue tape and change some numbers
0 to an 8 and so on.
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I don't know what the fine is but any cop following you and randomly checking regos would detect it (either no such rego # or different car registered) and would pull you over, they may consider it as "obstructing registration plate"
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Best way is to colour copy your plates.
Laminate them so they do not get wet and put them in a good set of Altrex frames. The plates will look very real, but will not reflect and be difficult to pick up on speed cameras.
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