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Old 07-09-2007, 11:07 AM   #31
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speeding is bad- i got a $510 ticket in my territory, the police said '' i know you were going faster befor i saw you'' but i had managed to slow to 142 when he got me. my old ba xr8 was lowered and had a herrod kit, it drove best at 120, it used to cut out at 230k tho. i rearly exeed the limit now as there are some idiots out there!
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:17 AM   #32
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whilst i think the kid in the article is a tool, and that excessive speeding is dangerous and stupid, im certainly not going to preach that im a little angel. ive gone over 200 several times, in cars and on bikes. was it safe? no. was it stupid? yes. do i do it any more? absolutely not. but was it part of growing up? yes. Anybody who says they have never done anything wrong or stupid is either a liar, or are still in nappies.
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speeding is bad- i got a $510 ticket in my territory, the police said '' i know you were going faster befor i saw you'' but i had managed to slow to 142 when he got me. my old ba xr8 was lowered and had a herrod kit, it drove best at 120, it used to cut out at 230k tho. i rearly exeed the limit now as there are some idiots out there!
Your an absolute :MrT_anim:

It okay for you to know that your car cuts out at 230 (which I don't believe anyway) and you say that your old car drove best at 120 but now you take this hollier than thou attitude... :

And I also agree with GTP006 - UD you are just as much a danger on the roads as this idiot in WA
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you mis read- my old car cut at 230, my new car cuts at 210.
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it was at 8.30 pm, so not alot of traffic.

it is a highway in an industrial area.

i dont think he saw the cops while he was accelerating!

thought skylines were limited to 180?

was a 34 gtr though, maybe theirs is higher..

not really the time to be doing that speed imo
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Very true mate, unfortunatley alot of people on this forum actually think that speeding is not dangerous?????? They somehow think it makes you less of a man if you think it is dangerous.

well Speeding is not dangerous - Speeding in congested areas is dangerous -

110 is a 100 zone is "speeding" is that dangerous?

Is doing 200 on a multi lane highway with not a car in sight dangerous?
I guess you would have to ask the competence of the driver and the vehicle at hand

Many factors are involved as to why speeding can be classified as dangerous -
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:53 AM   #37
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i agree gozza- i went for a ride in a db9 at 160mph and it felt very sedate, the autobahn in germany was designed by hitler in the 1930,s for cars to travel safely at 100mph,nearly 70 years on our cars are better and our roads are not.
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well Speeding is not dangerous - Speeding in congested areas is dangerous -

110 is a 100 zone is "speeding" is that dangerous?

Is doing 200 on a multi lane highway with not a car in sight dangerous?
I guess you would have to ask the competence of the driver and the vehicle at hand

Many factors are involved as to why speeding can be classified as dangerous -

Exactly the type of attitude I was talking about.

The faster you are going mate the harder you hit,I would say going 200kph as opposed to 110kph would severely hamper your reaction time if say a kangaroo or maybe even a person ran or walked onto the road or any other un forseable object entered the road,not only would you have far less time to react but if you did hit something the damage to you or whatever you hit would be much greater.

But of course you are invincible and nothing can or ever will harm you,road trauma only happens to other people,not me................
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I've done in excess of 200ks on the highway several times. That was about 5 years ago on a road bike, I now realise how stupid it was, if I got unstuck I'd be roadkill. Unfortunitetly young and dumb seem to go hand in hand.
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Exactly the type of attitude I was talking about.

The faster you are going mate the harder you hit,I would say going 200kph as opposed to 110kph would severely hamper your reaction time if say a kangaroo or maybe even a person ran or walked onto the road or any other un forseable object entered the road,not only would you have far less time to react but if you did hit something the damage to you or whatever you hit would be much greater.

But of course you are invincible and nothing can or ever will harm you,road trauma only happens to other people,not me................


Yes and your throwing in Factors that make speeding dangerous -

First of all we can sling scenarios back and forth all day. If i hit a person on the highway doing 110 im sure that they would pretty much be desolated -
Then why the hell would someone be on the highway anyway?

I have never claimed to be invincible or even condoned driving this way - I have driven as fast speeds but never over 200 - but thats not the point

As i said before- 10 k's over on the highway is classified as "speeding" but is that dangerous?

It unknown factors that need to be taken into consideration that make speeding dangerous - Thats all im saying
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10 k's over on the highway is classified as "speeding" but is that dangerous?
Yes....
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he only made 200kph? is that all!!? :P

my thought when I clicked on this thread "hah I bet there be 'road angels' replying how perfect they are "

now he can pin the ticket up in a photo frame

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What about Fatigue ?

edit: just to clarify, I don't think anything of his speed, I just like it when others do it :
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Ok well maybe you should hand your license back in - Have you ever over taken
somebody on a rural highway?

Break this down further - DO you consider 105 in a 100 zone dangerous -

Yes - I doubt many coppers would ping you for this but technically your still speeding
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Yes and your throwing in Factors that make speeding dangerous -

First of all we can sling scenarios back and forth all day. If i hit a person on the highway doing 110 im sure that they would pretty much be desolated -
Then why the hell would someone be on the highway anyway?

I have never claimed to be invincible or even condoned driving this way - I have driven as fast speeds but never over 200 - but thats not the point

As i said before- 10 k's over on the highway is classified as "speeding" but is that dangerous?

It unknown factors that need to be taken into consideration that make speeding dangerous - Thats all im saying
Why would someone be on a highway? Fairly simplistic dont you think?

Yes unknown factors need to be taken into consideration, isnt that the exact reason why going a slower speed is safer? So that if one of these "unknown factors" comes into play you will have more time to react.
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What forget about the idiot in the rice. I'm stunned that the Police were able to run him down. Normally you pass the cops at 200 they have no hope of catching up.
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Travelling at 200kph is not dangerous if it is done on the correct roads. 200 kph in anything that resembles a built up area is just plain dumb. I think that a prison term is in order for an offence like that. Perhaps 30 days of loss of liberty would change his/her ways...... He should not get the chance to attain hero status out of this.

If all states had world class roads that had stretch's of (//) I think that we would all be better drivers. The first time that you push your car to 200kph and beyond is one of the most adrenalin filled experience's there is. It is a good way to build up driving skills and learn why you should never do this kind of speed in a populated area. Thing's start to happen very quickly once you hit the magic double ton. Of course I am assuming that the vehicles used to do this are safe and capable of travelling at these speeds.
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Why would someone be on a highway? Fairly simplistic dont you think?

Yes unknown factors need to be taken into consideration, isnt that the exact reason why going a slower speed is safer? So that if one of these "unknown factors" comes into play you will have more time to react.

You said what if a person ran or walked on a Highway

I would think they are the simplistic ones -

Also i am not disagreeing with your point . I feel we are going in a big circle .

Its like saying guns kill people - People do things and know possible outcomes and consequences -
my head is hurting now - good day to you sir lol
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he only made 200kph? is that all!!? :P

my thought when I clicked on this thread "hah I bet there be 'road angels' replying how perfect they are "

now he can pin the ticket up in a photo frame



What about Fatigue ?

edit: just to clarify, I don't think anything of his speed, I just like it when others do it :
Good point, fatigue is a much bigger problem than anyone speeding. Boss 290, go and do a driving course you are an idiot if you think 110 in a 100 is dangerous. Speeding's contribution is tiny compared to fatigue, im much more scared when near complacent drivers, they often drive around in a daze :
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He's too young to know that you only need to get to 88mph before the flux capacitor kicks in an he can travel back to the future
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Getting in the car and driving anywhere is inherently dangerous...but I believe the faster you go, the less safe it is, irrespective of speed limits or any other factors.
Going faster means less reaction time, longer braking distances etc etc whether you're over the limit or not.

Obviously it will always come down to PERSONAL OPINION.
Then of course, there is the law. And we all know laws and opinons will differ at any given time.
Just because you think it's safe, doesnt mean someone else will and vice versa. But we can argue about it all day...
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Getting in the car and driving anywhere is inherently dangerous...but I believe the faster you go, the less safe it is, irrespective of speed limits or any other factors.
Going faster means less reaction time, longer braking distances etc etc whether you're over the limit or not.
What you are saying is of course common sense. But since the NT dropped the (//) on the open highways the road toll has been constantly higher. So to just say that the faster you go the more people are going to die, or is always going to be more dangerous, just doesn't stack up.

http://www.nt.gov.au/pfes/index.cfm?...ion=page&p=148

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I love speeding!!!
I got my 351 XD falcon flat out at 6700rpm with 3.5 gears at 240km, I had to calculate it out using my revs and gears because i was way off the speedo... lol

I cant stand people who drive slow (the speed limit) they cause accidents.
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You said what if a person ran or walked on a Highway

I would think they are the simplistic ones -

Also i am not disagreeing with your point . I feel we are going in a big circle .

Its like saying guns kill people - People do things and know possible outcomes and consequences -
my head is hurting now - good day to you sir lol

Simplistic example's,but very true.

A gun in the wrong hands will harm people,thats why there is so much gun violence in america,go down to a 7 elevan and you can buy one???????

Now Im gona go rabbit shooting with my ak-47...........

Back on topic,I wonder how many people on here who condone speeding have visited there road trauma ward at there local hospital or worse still had a loved one killed by some lunatic who felt he was driving safely?
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I love speeding!!!
I got my 351 XD falcon flat out at 6700rpm with 3.5 gears at 240km, I had to calculate it out using my revs and gears because i was way off the speedo... lol

I cant stand people who drive slow (the speed limit) they cause accidents.

Dont think that hard again mate,you might break that peanut in your head.
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I meant they are Simple - (stupid) for walking/running on a highway

And yes my analogy regarding the guns was that point...."In the wrong hands"

A gun sitting on its own is an "inanimate object" which does not kill people .

For the record once more im not condoning speeding and and not disagreeing with the point that yes - people have died by irresponsible action
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Simplistic example's,but very true.

A gun in the wrong hands will harm people,thats why there is so much gun violence in america,go down to a 7 elevan and you can buy one???????

Now Im gona go rabbit shooting with my ak-47...........

Back on topic,I wonder how many people on here who condone speeding have visited there road trauma ward at there local hospital or worse still had a loved one killed by some lunatic who felt he was driving safely?
Ive been to plenty, i had one mate in one cause he lost control of his car a few years back trying to be a smart *** below the actual speed limit. I also have a friends mum who is involved in the daily running of top Hospitals around Australia and have seen pretty messed up individuals. There is an old saying that i abide by, "Only drive as fast as you can see, and to the conditions at hand". I was told that by an ex cop when i was 16, one of the worst speeders i have ever known.
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Whats going on here?

'cool' to have a 200k+ speed ticket?
but who hasnt done it at one time or another ( when young )?

Good on you two heroes... : :togo:
yeah right , and only some men slap the salami, when young.
i bet almost 100% of drivers here have gone 150 + kms an hr , on the road at some time in their lives . if not driving , then as a passenger . i dont condon speeding at all. but if everyone got caught doing high speeds @ 150kms an hr ++ then i bet probably 80 to 90- % of male drivers would have lost thier licence here , and thats conservative . over individual years of driving . i think this bloke is crazy for what he did . i also think i have been crazy in the past as 90 % + of all you have . :
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Ive been to plenty, i had one mate in one cause he lost control of his car a few years back trying to be a smart *** below the actual speed limit. I also have a friends mum who is involved in the daily running of top Hospitals around Australia and have seen pretty messed up individuals. There is an old saying that i abide by, "Only drive as fast as you can see, and to the conditions at hand". I was told that by an ex cop when i was 16, one of the worst speeders i have ever known.
you can get caught out and die at 40kms hour . every incremental increase in speed upwards from there , increases the risk .
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Back on topic,I wonder how many people on here who condone speeding have visited there road trauma ward at there local hospital or worse still had a loved one killed by some lunatic who felt he was driving safely?
You will find that in trauma wards around the country that there are more people in there due to alcohol related accidents than just speed related accidents. Speed by itself in the right circumstances is not inherantly dangerous. There is a difference to doing 120kph on a crowded freeway than cruising at 200kph on the Stuart Hwy. I know which I would rather do.
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You will find that in trauma wards around the country that there are more people in there due to alcohol related accidents than just speed related accidents.
And there'd be 10x Speed & Alchohol combined who just had clusterf**ks.
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