Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-10-2012, 07:25 AM   #31
Nic85
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 677
Default Re: Real world comparison...50th Anniversary G6E vs. '10 Toyota Aurion...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cashie
Good thread....
I'm on the lookout for a TRD Aurion (pretty hard to come by due to the limited numbers sold), enjoyed reading some of the feedback above.
If you're interested in a TRD Aurion, you should maybe consider taking a look at a TMR 380. 10kW less power, but 42Nm more - TRD = 240kW/400Nm, TMR380 = 230kW/442Nm. The Mitsubishi has a much better chassis too. I can see why you're keen on the TRD though, I just had a quick look on Carsales and there's 2007 models there going for like $25k with 50k on the clock. Crazy as hell.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ivorya
Cheap Lexus.

I'm sure it has the same running gear.
Yep. Same 3.5L V6 (without DI) and 6 speed auto.
Nic85 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 01-10-2012, 02:45 PM   #32
superfly
Go the Hogster!
 
superfly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 2,518
Default Re: Real world comparison...50th Anniversary G6E vs. '10 Toyota Aurion...

I seriously considered an Aurion SX6 when I was buying a new car. We had one for a week in NZ and I thought it was great. But the missus didn't like it and compared to the XR50, the XR50 was better value and bigger.
__________________
Nitro XR50 - the last brand new one in OZ
first registered Oct 2011.
superfly is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 01-10-2012, 10:44 PM   #33
NX74205
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
NX74205's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Perth, WA
Posts: 1,311
Default Re: Real world comparison...50th Anniversary G6E vs. '10 Toyota Aurion...

I haven't driven an Aurion, but I test drove a Hybrid Camry recently, around the same time as when I had test driven a Falcon EcoBoost. The two were miles apart. While the Camry had better fuel economy and was arguably quieter and more refined ... it just had no character. The steering had virtually no "feel" to it. The Camry has no soul, no character. It's designed for people who want nothing more than an A to B car.

For those who have driven both Camry and Aurion, is the Aurion any improvement in terms of driving enjoyment?

The EcoBoost Falcon handles, rides, drives and steers better than the Camry, by a long shot.
__________________
Current car:
2016 Ford MD Mondeo Titanium EcoBoost (2016-)
Previous cars:
2005 Ford BF Fairmont (2006-2019)
1989 Ford EA Falcon GL (2000-2007)
1982 Ford KA Laser Ghia (1999-2000)
NX74205 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-10-2012, 11:14 AM   #34
malazn mafia
Boss 335
 
malazn mafia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,330
Default Re: Real world comparison...50th Anniversary G6E vs. '10 Toyota Aurion...

Quote:
Originally Posted by NX74205
I haven't driven an Aurion, but I test drove a Hybrid Camry recently, around the same time as when I had test driven a Falcon EcoBoost. The two were miles apart. While the Camry had better fuel economy and was arguably quieter and more refined ... it just had no character. The steering had virtually no "feel" to it. The Camry has no soul, no character. It's designed for people who want nothing more than an A to B car.

For those who have driven both Camry and Aurion, is the Aurion any improvement in terms of driving enjoyment?

The EcoBoost Falcon handles, rides, drives and steers better than the Camry, by a long shot.
Rented a camry, and it torqued steered if you gave it more than half throttle off the lights. Had some decent punch in the high revs for a 2.4 and had no problem sustaining high speeds and maintaining composure on the back roads. Interior ergonomics were atrocious (it seems every toyota vehicle has the dash angled towards the passenger rather than the driver) and the seats were crap, though.
malazn mafia is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-10-2012, 12:25 PM   #35
EDManual
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
EDManual's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,710
Default Re: Real world comparison...50th Anniversary G6E vs. '10 Toyota Aurion...

i dont find the new aurion enjoyable at all, it does have a lot of power though!
Well into the 6's to 100 I'd say.

One of the main problems is the tyres fitted. They are usually "eco tyres" and dont like to turn, accellerate or brake!! Hopeless!!
EDManual is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-10-2012, 06:42 PM   #36
pursuit2359
Regular Member
 
pursuit2359's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 169
Default Re: Real world comparison...50th Anniversary G6E vs. '10 Toyota Aurion...

Does anybody else find the styling of the new Aurion completely off-putting? The standard models aren't too bad, but the Sportivos just look silly - what is going on with the lower grille treatment around the fog lights?



More pics here: http://wikicars.net.au/reviews.php#!...Aurion&gen=882
pursuit2359 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-10-2012, 07:07 PM   #37
Bossxr8
Peter Car
 
Bossxr8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: geelong
Posts: 23,145
Default Re: Real world comparison...50th Anniversary G6E vs. '10 Toyota Aurion...

They are hiddeous, but you haven't even shown the worst part. They are puke inducing from the back.
Bossxr8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-10-2012, 08:43 PM   #38
Nic85
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 677
Default Re: Real world comparison...50th Anniversary G6E vs. '10 Toyota Aurion...

They've gone backwards with the new styling. The older styling with the more round edges was far better than this squaring off styling they've got going on now.
Nic85 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2012, 06:48 AM   #39
pursuit2359
Regular Member
 
pursuit2359's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 169
Default Re: Real world comparison...50th Anniversary G6E vs. '10 Toyota Aurion...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bossxr8
They are hiddeous, but you haven't even shown the worst part. They are puke inducing from the back.
OK, get your anti-nausea tablets out...

pursuit2359 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2012, 08:44 AM   #40
Mr Hardware
Flairs - Truckers Delight
 
Mr Hardware's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Brisbane Northside Likes: Opposite Lock
Posts: 5,731
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: The excellent how to on LPG jet cleaning. 
Default Re: Real world comparison...50th Anniversary G6E vs. '10 Toyota Aurion...

Just for reference, all Aurions are automatic.
__________________
Current: Silhouette Black 2007 SY Ford Territory TX RWD 7-seater "Black Banger"
2006-2016: Regency Red 2000 AUII Ford Falcon Forte Automatic Sedan Tickford LPG "Millennium Falcon"
Mr Hardware is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2012, 09:00 AM   #41
AU Mont
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: NSW
Posts: 1,424
Default Re: Real world comparison...50th Anniversary G6E vs. '10 Toyota Aurion...

Quote:
Originally Posted by pursuit2359
OK, get your anti-nausea tablets out...

image
holy crap batman !!!!!!

ssssayong mussssso ex-employees now working at Toyota
AU Mont is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2012, 10:17 AM   #42
Poetic Justice
NOT A TOYOTA :/
 
Poetic Justice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Eastern Suburbs, Melb
Posts: 2,554
Default Re: Real world comparison...50th Anniversary G6E vs. '10 Toyota Aurion...



But on the other hand, not all Aurion's are ugly...

The reason the Sportivo isn't at pretty as where the previous generation was styled/designed by Australians this edition wasn't.
__________________
06 LandbargeCruiser Sahara
Managed to remain in the v8 fraternity
Poetic Justice is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2012, 05:32 PM   #43
Bossxr8
Peter Car
 
Bossxr8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: geelong
Posts: 23,145
Default Re: Real world comparison...50th Anniversary G6E vs. '10 Toyota Aurion...

Not ugly, just extremely boring. So the choice is either ugly or boring. Not much of a selection.

Much prefer the previous model cause at least the Sportivo looked ok.
Bossxr8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2012, 05:38 PM   #44
Ford_The_Win
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 1,730
Default Re: Real world comparison...50th Anniversary G6E vs. '10 Toyota Aurion...

Camry Sportivo = oxymoron personified
__________________
2011 FG XR6 Sedan
Ford_The_Win is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2012, 05:59 PM   #45
FG50T
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
FG50T's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 935
Default Re: Real world comparison...50th Anniversary G6E vs. '10 Toyota Aurion...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bossxr8
My mate who works at Toyota reckons they are having a real rough time moving Aurions and even Camrys in the local market. They are mostly just building stock for export. They are even offering employees amazing deals just to move them. Something like $67 a week for a lease Camry.
I work at a Toyota dealer and they sell easily. 0% finance and $99 p/w.
FG50T is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2012, 06:10 PM   #46
302 XC
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,527
Default Re: Real world comparison...50th Anniversary G6E vs. '10 Toyota Aurion...

Quote:
Originally Posted by grandpa_spec_F6
A car is as much fun as you make it.


Most fun in a car? Mates 94 Corolla. Had it for about 6 weeks and it was awesome. Had lots of character for a 'small car', while not as quicky as the F6 or my V8, you had to 'work' to get to 100km/h and could throw it into a bend at 60km/h without even thinking, like it was on rails.
The first bit is about it in a nut shell
Most new cars unless the sporty version really arent much more than glorified fridges, to keep to the topic
The brother in law had the early 90 s corolla CSX, the freak of a thing would nail many many larger cars , the thing pulled 120 outta 2nd and still had more go, absolute freak
Back in the old days when the minister and myself bought new cars every 18 months or so, they were nothin but toyotas, and V6s
They could handle the Ks,good on fuel, and better resale even with high Ks than holden or ford
So bang for buck, reliabilty,resale, they were always the winner
Fast forward to nowadays and we look for the overall package,$$$ for $$$ and dont pay extra for the badge,theres too many options in the 2nd hand market that offer good value for money the badge premium price doesnt need to be paid anymore
Many many manufacturers had great reputations and toyota was one to be as reliable as a pair of old boots, but its hardly the case as with many new cars nowadays
302 XC is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2012, 06:18 PM   #47
Bossxr8
Peter Car
 
Bossxr8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: geelong
Posts: 23,145
Default Re: Real world comparison...50th Anniversary G6E vs. '10 Toyota Aurion...

Quote:
Originally Posted by FG50T
I work at a Toyota dealer and they sell easily. 0% finance and $99 p/w.
One dealerships results do not make a trend.
Bossxr8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2012, 06:26 PM   #48
DFB FGXR6
Donating Member
Donating Member3
 
DFB FGXR6's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 12,678
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: For the excellent car-care guide 
Default Re: Real world comparison...50th Anniversary G6E vs. '10 Toyota Aurion...

Quote:
Originally Posted by SCUD
image

But on the other hand, not all Aurion's are ugly...

The reason the Sportivo isn't at pretty as where the previous generation was styled/designed by Australians this edition wasn't.
I think the same guy who styled the previous Aurion did the BA XR models before he left Ford. Nick Hogios?
__________________
PX MK II Ranger
FG XR6
FG X XR8
Mustang GT

T3 TS50 - gone but not forgotten
DFB FGXR6 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2012, 09:02 PM   #49
Djrystofer
Regular Member
 
Djrystofer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 134
Default Re: Real world comparison...50th Anniversary G6E vs. '10 Toyota Aurion...

Drove a camry a few weeks ago, and It really is just a car for people who just want to get from 'A to B'
Does everything you want from a car, but never surprises you.
Djrystofer is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2012, 09:41 PM   #50
superfly
Go the Hogster!
 
superfly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 2,518
Default Re: Real world comparison...50th Anniversary G6E vs. '10 Toyota Aurion...

The old Aurion SX6 was waaaay better looking. I definitely wouldn't have been interested in the current model.
__________________
Nitro XR50 - the last brand new one in OZ
first registered Oct 2011.
superfly is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-10-2012, 01:51 AM   #51
Buntz
Straight Eight
 
Buntz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Western Australia
Posts: 2,049
Default Re: Real world comparison...50th Anniversary G6E vs. '10 Toyota Aurion...

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2011G6E
It's roomy, it's pretty comfortable even though it's just a slightly-more-than-base-model version. The V6 is a great engine...200kw, smooth, pulls like a freight train, actually feels like it goes a little harder than the Falcon 4.0 (sacrilege!!! ). The auto is pretty easy going as well.
Less drivetrain losses. Would they use basic transaxle in that FWD application?
__________________
The Falcon is dead. Long live the Mighty Falcon.
Buntz is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 07:37 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL