GM wants Holden fans to 'come on the journey'

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by burnz

ford trucks is in Kentucky.. no GM.

any way both ford and gm are 3billion in dept, in fact the big three wont see march, from what i'm told.

Ford are soon to announce a near record profit for this year. Remarkable considering the number of cars lost through semi-conductor shortages, and covid problems. Somewhere in the region of $10 billion profit. Company is in the best financial position it has been for quite a while.

Won't see march

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Ford are soon to announce a near record profit for this year. Remarkable considering the number of cars lost through semi-conductor shortages, and covid problems. Somewhere in the region of $10 billion profit. Company is in the best financial position it has been for quite a while.

Won't see march

Could a big profit come from less discounting while stock is limited....if so I hope they don't learn the trick of other luxury brands where artificially limiting supply to keep prices high is a common practise.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

Could a big profit come from less discounting while stock is limited....if so I hope they don't learn the trick of other luxury brands where artificially limiting supply to keep prices high is a common practise.

No, it's more to do with selling higher numbers of more profitable models, and the introduction of new nameplates like Bronco Sport, Bronco and Maverick which are more profitable vehicles than the Fusions etc that they had to discount the **** out of just to sell. They didn't make much money on those, hence they stopped building sedans and moved to the more profitable SUV line up.

But I would assume their incentive spend (discount) on the in demand models was probably pretty low with demand being so high, so it's probably a small factor. Ford had the lowest incentive spend in recent years anyway, much smaller than what GM and FCA would throw at their cars and trucks to move them off dealer lots. But with those brand new models and the demand being so high, they wouldn't have offered incentives on them at this stage anyway. Especially when vehicles like Bronco have waiting lists blowing out to years, not just months. F150 Lightning already has a 3 year waiting list cause they just won't be able to build enough of them to satisfy demand.

[burnz]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Ford are soon to announce a near record profit for this year. Remarkable considering the number of cars lost through semi-conductor shortages, and covid problems. Somewhere in the region of $10 billion profit. Company is in the best financial position it has been for quite a while.

Won't see march

the big three wont be able to sell in the EU and china, two very big markets.

every body gone green don't you know..
to little too late.. and some sleepy POTUS will finish the job..

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by burnz

the big three wont be able to sell in the EU and china, two very big markets.

every body gone green don't you know..
to little too late.. and some sleepy POTUS will finish the job..

Uhmm …

Is there GM in Europe now ?

The Several Billion $’s Ford have spent on their basically new plant in South Africa to produce Rangers for European consumption is a myth ?

Don’t troll please, there are a few here that deal with facts and not QAnon.

[CyberWasp]

Yes people, come on the Journey.....

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by burnz

the big three wont be able to sell in the EU and china, two very big markets.

every body gone green don't you know..
to little too late.. and some sleepy POTUS will finish the job..

[eb2fairmont]

Yeah Gm I’ll come on a journey, you’re not invited

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by burnz

the big three wont be able to sell in the EU and china, two very big markets.

every body gone green don't you know..
to little too late.. and some sleepy POTUS will finish the job..

WTF. Ford of Europe have already announced plans to move to EV's in Europe, and the tie in with VW will allow them to share EV platforms. These announcements have already been made. And the Mach E has just gone into production in China.

Put down the crack pipe.

[nearlythere]

Holden? What's that.

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by bb_zetec

Yes Ford ended manufacturing, but we can still get support for the Fords we have to a point, and with a big aftermarket following i think they will keep around for some time...we have nothing to replace our Falcons/Utes with, and there will never be any replacement really, perhaps we will all get to 1,000,000Klms?

I often wonder what ill ever replace my ute with if i ever do (not really looking to atm). Even the newest falcon ute is 5 to 6 years old, and good ones are very hard to find. None of the ranger et al interest me in any way.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by nearlythere

Holden? What's that.

Apparently “Holden” won Bathurst

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

Apparently “Holden” won Bathurst

Whats a 'Bathurst' - irrelevant 'manufacturer' won an irrelevant race in an irrelevant racing series

Holden has become like what Chrysler did, people with their cars are going to be like Valliant owners, 10-20 years from now no one will know what they are and you'll hardly see any on the road and it'll be some eccentric group of car enthusiasts who when they die their kids will give away Dad's old ****box for free to the local high school for their auto class, or Melbourne museum because unleaded and internal combustion engines have been banned from use

[Dr Terry]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Whats a 'Bathurst' - irrelevant 'manufacturer' won an irrelevant race in an irrelevant racing series

Holden has become like what Chrysler did, people with their cars are going to be like Valliant owners, 10-20 years from now no one will know what they are and you'll hardly see any on the road and it'll be some eccentric group of car enthusiasts who when they die their kids will give away Dad's old ****box for free to the local high school for their auto class, or Melbourne museum because unleaded and internal combustion engines have been banned from use

That "irrelevant racing series" was watched by more TV viewers than the Melbourne cup this year.

Your comments re: the Valiant & the Holden would also apply to the Falcon would they not ?

Dr Terry

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Dr Terry

That "irrelevant racing series" was watched by more TV viewers than the Melbourne cup this year.

Your comments re: the Valiant & the Holden would also apply to the Falcon would they not ?

Dr Terry

Congratulations, Bathurst beat people watching an animal cruelty exhibition thats been on the decline for over a decade

Out of curiosity, what was the gambling revenue from Bathurst compared to the Melbourne Cup? This year Melbourne Cup had over $220 million dollars placed in bets from punters on a single day on only one race alone and gambling revenues across the four days of the Melbourne Cup carnival exceeded $700 million dollars.

Australian punters splurged more than $220m on the Melbourne Cup as a part of a record betting bonanza across the four days of the Flemington carnival.

The Victoria Racing Club reported domestic betting turnover of $724.1 million, a rise of 7.6 per cent on last year’s figures, for the four meetings of the Melbourne Cup Carnival.

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/punt...ngton-20211110

The difference is Ford still exists in Australia

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

Apparently “Holden” won Bathurst

And I'm sure GM are so proud....................NOT.

[Dr Terry]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Congratulations, Bathurst beat people watching an animal cruelty exhibition thats been on the decline for over a decade

Out of curiosity, what was the gambling revenue from Bathurst compared to the Melbourne Cup? This year Melbourne Cup had over $220 million dollars placed in bets from punters on a single day on only one race alone and gambling revenues across the four days of the Melbourne Cup carnival exceeded $700 million dollars.



https://www.racenet.com.au/news/punt...ngton-20211110

The difference is Ford still exists in Australia

Yes, but both my points are still valid. Supercars racing is not "irrelevant" & Falcons have gone the way of Valiants, Holdens & the Dodo bird.

Dr Terry

[FERG_51]

I love my dodo birds 1971, 2003 and 2015 all keepers. probably be worth nothing when I'm gone.