Minispool for street use, Safe???

[kyro_02]

my billet mini spool arrived today, i'm buying billet axels now

[STOKEB]

hehe I like this thread, well guys i have had Spool in my car for around 5 years now and to be honest with use all its good fun but you have to becareful in the rain and taking corners, If you run big tyres on the back you wont get the skipping that comes out the back tyres, but its alot of stress on your gear box and trail arms. You wont need the Billet Axels the stok 28spin are fine. If your gonna spend the cash on Axels get your self a 31spin axel then you will never have problems with braking axels.. oh also never had dramas getting a raody withthe spool in it. You should have to much dramas with the cops for the spool just use bigger tyres in the *** end they wont even no it has a spool, Just tell them its a new LSD thats been Tighten :-p

[BlueXr8]

get a spool man and you will never look back teach's you how to handle a car in the wet

[kyro_02]

yeah you don't need billet, but i personally buying billet axels for extra assurance

[protd]

Originally Posted by STOKEB

hehe I like this thread, well guys i have had Spool in my car for around 5 years now and to be honest with use all its good fun but you have to becareful in the rain and taking corners, If you run big tyres on the back you wont get the skipping that comes out the back tyres, but its alot of stress on your gear box and trail arms. You wont need the Billet Axels the stok 28spin are fine. If your gonna spend the cash on Axels get your self a 31spin axel then you will never have problems with braking axels.. oh also never had dramas getting a raody withthe spool in it. You should have to much dramas with the cops for the spool just use bigger tyres in the *** end they wont even no it has a spool, Just tell them its a new LSD thats been Tighten :-p

just a Q how do bigger tyres stop the wheels skipping i have 12.5" wide tyres on my car and when i put skinny's on for skids etc i can tell u its alot easier on the car with them on.. the big tyres make it far more prone to chadder than say 225's

[DaNeoS]

mine is going in my car this week. the LSD in it isnt tight enough and i dont want to get it rebuilt, so ill post my reply after driveing on it a little bit

[ned]

Originally Posted by kyro_02

so you can actually thrash lsd everyday for a week and it will be ok? cause that's about how long my bro's lsd lasted him.. an he wasn't thrashing it all the time either his lsd is probably about 8yrs old or something about there (but it got recoed & 2 weeks later it went SS...)

Yes... you can. I have done it myself and for a certain period in the past it was more than a week of constant battering. If I was you or your brother I'd be looking for a new place to rebuild your diffs.

+1 LSD.

[kyro_02]

Originally Posted by STOKEB

f your gonna spend the cash on Axels get your self a 31spin axel then you will never have problems with braking axels..

how do you go about fitting 31 spline axels to a borgwarner 28 spline box ?? i've heard people do it.. but how ?

[protd]

u just buy a 31 spline mini and fit that in place of the 28 mini u just got

[protd]

of course u need 31 spline axles then

[kyro_02]

no i'm talking about AXELS dude

stoked said instead of buying 28 spline BILLET axels, he said to buy 31 spline axels... so i'm assuming you'd need to go 9inch diff or something?

but i've also heard people magically somehow putting 31 spline into a borgwarner diff whereas I always thought you can only put in 28 spline

so if that is possible, i'll have to go out and buy a 31 spline mini spool + the axels .. .. meh i think there won't be any difference unless you're running like 400+ HP at the rears or something , than you would go 9inch diff and 31 spline axels

[protd]

u can put 31's in a b/w u just have to tell the axle supplier that its for a b/w

[kyro_02]

yeah fair enough, though i won't go 31 spline i think 28 spline billets axels will suit good enough .. in the end it all could be a waste if you get defected hehe

i only getting 118rwkw so even the standard axels will suit, but as i said for extra assurance i'm going to get 28 spline billet axels

[protd]

if u are buying billet axles they r the same price for 31's and 28's and the can be used in a 9" later on... But i really dont think u need billet axles at all but thats ur choice

[needfordspeed]

If you don't mind me asking, what are the billet 28 spline axles setting you back? And where are you getting em done? My car will be spooled next time it hits the road hope it doesn't cause *too* much strain on the gearbox.

[kyro_02]

$600 for 28 spline, $700 for 31 spline

Street & Strip Gears Pty Ltd
PH: 9708 5403
Vic, Dandenong

come to think of it, if the 31 spline billet axels fit i'd definately consider 'em :P

[ebs_4l]

^^^^^^ what he said, vote for LSD from me, a decent, increased preload LSD is the ducks guts... SPOOLS suck, a perfect way to turn your nice, perfectly good to drive car into a complete piece of S-HIT, trust me, the novelty wears off after a week or so

[GRNKPR]

tight lsd for road and spool in my race car
do you love your car ???? cause if you do and you cant drive your in for a lesson in the wet

oh thats right we are all fangio s arnt we

[NEG]

I had a locker or welded diff in my old XD with a 351c. I think once you get used to them they arent dangerous if you drive to the road conditions.
You just have to get used to driving like an old woman around corners in the wet unless you like drifting:P. Fun somtimes but a real pain in *** other times. ie: parking. Personaly I wouldnt get one again unless it was only used at the race track.

LSDs are basically a 1 wheeler around corners, but lock up both in a straight line.

LSD's should also lock up around corners if you give it a boot, but not under normal driving. The LSD I have now is a bit worn and wont lock up around corners (unless wet) but locks up nicly in a straight line still.

[sphell]

I'd go tight LSD if you've got the money to have it rebuilt properly. A tight LSD will get both wheels spinning 95% of the time you want them to.

Spools are very predictable IMO so you get to know when the *** end is gonna break traction and you get used to it which can make taking corners fun. Understeer in the wet is a big problem and you'll have to take corners slower than what you would with an LSD. They also put a lot of stress on the driveline. Spools are fun but once the novelty wears off you'll wish you got an LSD.

[STOKEB]

I run 225 tyres on my car every day and there is no wheel skip if i had anything under 225 you can hear the wheels skip and scream around corners, im guessing it also depends on the tyre compund as well.. I`ll be trying out my 275 tyres this weekend and ill see how the diff goes..

[needfordspeed]

Originally Posted by STOKEB

I run 225 tyres on my car every day and there is no wheel skip if i had anything under 225 you can hear the wheels skip and scream around corners, im guessing it also depends on the tyre compund as well.. I`ll be trying out my 275 tyres this weekend and ill see how the diff goes..

Have you ever snapped any axles? (how many?)

[oneredED]

I run 225 tyres on my car every day and there is no wheel skip if i had anything under 225 you can hear the wheels skip and scream around corners, im guessing it also depends on the tyre compund as well.. I`ll be trying out my 275 tyres this weekend and ill see how the diff goes..

I've found my 235's do it, far more than what the 205's I put on do. It probably varies from tyre to tyre I guess (my 235's are soft and sticky, the 205's hard and bald).

[CaRtZ]

so wot im learning from this thread is that if i wanna rip it sideway every coner (once i have the power) get a mini spool with 31 spline's. if i only wanna frang it every now and then get a tight LSD.
and to pull it sideways with the LSD i got give it a quick, sharp kick on the floor and hold it there.
correct?

[kyro_02]

lol you don't go sideways with a spool every corner ! unless you want to :P

i think tight lsd makes your LSD a little weaker, though there is always a chance of it SS anyway.. i guess if it's rebuilt really good than you shouldn't really have a problem if you want to thrash it sometimes...
my bros lsd lasted him a week after it was driven in /(normally 2 weeks of driving or xxxx amount of k's which ever is first.)

oh if you wanna do stand stills, don't forget to buy a line locker for the rear .. the one you flick on/off in cabin :P - that way your rear pads don't go to waste hehe

[CaRtZ]

so how much of a beating can a spool withstand?

[falconkid]

As much as u can give it...

JIM

[kyro_02]

spool can take as much as you can give it, your axels will stand the punishment as alot of people have had no problems.. but if you ever wants to more assured ... you can always get 28 or 31 spline billet axels :P

if you're pushing heaps of rwkw , i'm guessing but maybe 300/400 + rwkw you should keep an eye open for your axels , but really depends as well... billets are a bit stronger so it can take heaps

[xd??]

Originally Posted by CaRtZ

so how much of a beating can a spool withstand?

full spool or mini?

[CaRtZ]

xd - both. full will take more i take it.
not a chance at 300/400 kw's... in this car anyway. maybe 200