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Old 03-11-2008, 07:34 PM   #31
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they do have production car racing for factory cars it just doesn't get as much of a following as the v8's maybe the next generation will be into hybrid racing or belt sander racing the latter uses electricity check it on u tube.
Perhaps the production car racing doesn't get the following of the public because it hasn't got the full support of the manufacturers.

The two critical links for the public are improving a new and useful technology and getting the support of the manufacturers.

The point of the thread is "the first over the line using 100lt of fuel" for example with an allowance for the car size. There would be no stipulation on propulsion - hybrid, solar assist, turbo diesel, what ever you want with 100lt of fuel.
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Old 03-11-2008, 11:04 PM   #32
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100L Make mine an R100RS or similar - it will do 1000km on a lot less than that. See Castrol 6 hr.........
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Old 04-11-2008, 01:58 AM   #33
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well what about dodgem style setups with the electrical overhead wires... that way manufacturers would really have to concentrate on the most efficient, light (but of course safe) and quickest cars they can make... And seeing how it's a new venture, toyota would be right in the mix... 3 manufacturer series gotta be better than two!?
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Old 04-11-2008, 12:04 PM   #34
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My point is, apart from enthusiasts, the general motoring has lost interest in Bathurst and is losing interest in Australian cars. Even on this forum, some members question the competitiveness of the race when in reality, it is the interpretation of the rules that has a far greater influence on the result than the R & D of the main manufacturers. Sure, go on with V8 super cars but the target market is very small (albeit loyal) and ask yourself, how much from the race feeds back into useful R & D for the manufacturers for our cars. Or, what did Ford learn from Bathurst 2006 that ended up in the new falcons - they don't race 5.4lt V8's or turbo 6's for example.
Correct me if i'm wrong but I thought viewer and crowd numbers were at record levels. Blows away your theory of people losing interest.

And anyway, why would racing Hybrids add to the interest. If anything it would make it one hundred times more boring.
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Correct me if i'm wrong but I thought viewer and crowd numbers were at record levels. Blows away your theory of people losing interest.
: Are they still racing at bathurst every year ? :
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Old 04-11-2008, 12:54 PM   #36
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Correct me if i'm wrong but I thought viewer and crowd numbers were at record levels. Blows away your theory of people losing interest.

And anyway, why would racing Hybrids add to the interest. If anything it would make it one hundred times more boring.
Next time you are at Bathurst, standing by the fence watching the race, look over your left shoulder and count how many people are facing away from the track engaged in other activities. Its not a race anymore, its a Royal Show that has Racing going on at the same time.........

I still watch it every year for the race, a lot go for the carnival atmosphere and thats all.........
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Old 04-11-2008, 04:20 PM   #37
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well what about dodgem style setups with the electrical overhead wires...
Lets just have Tram races?

or line up 2 Trains and drag em?
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Old 04-11-2008, 06:08 PM   #38
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Correct me if i'm wrong but I thought viewer and crowd numbers were at record levels. Blows away your theory of people losing interest.

The interest I was talking about was the general public and the link between the race and how that translates into R & D for the improvement of products by our local manufacturers. If the general public were more interested in the outcome of the race you would have a stronger link between what won on Sunday, and sold on Monday.

And anyway, why would racing Hybrids add to the interest. If anything it would make it one hundred times more boring.
I'm not only suggesting interest levels, but value to the general motoring public as well - the original reason for Bathurst.

The problems then were performance, reliability and chassis strength. It would be fair to say that the competitive environment generated at Bathurst to solve these issues was successful in the 60's.
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I'm not only suggesting interest levels, but value to the general motoring public as well - the original reason for Bathurst.

The problems then were performance, reliability and chassis strength. It would be fair to say that the competitive environment generated at Bathurst to solve these issues was successful in the 60's.
Introduce new rules that chassis rails must be bashed away to almost nothing with a sledgehammer. Should add some excitement and unpredictability.
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