i think capa has realesed the EA-EL chip

[starkersEB]

Originally Posted by fairmont1998

Only the V8 models and EA 4 speed models have the seperate trans ecu

Oh really i was told by the trans joint i got mine done that they were a seperate computer.

[Jason[98.EL]]

here is a link to the capa page with the pdf file about the tuner

http://www.capa.com.au/ford_flash_tuner.htm

looks good time to start saving i think

jason

[LowEL2XR8]

So you can't buy the 'E' Series USB Dealer Chip Burner unless your a dealer or tuner?

[xr8ute]

Originally Posted by LowEFGLi

So you can't buy the 'E' Series USB Dealer Chip Burner unless your a dealer or tuner?

Correct....but whats the point having the chip burner if you dont have the software?

You can buy the dealer software if you've got the $$$.

[LowEL2XR8]

Just was curious as it didnt really have a price listed only for the unit we need not for the chip burner. Thats cool.
I wonder what kind of extra power you can get from it just having an exhaust/extractor and snorkel and air filter upgrade. I guess these question will be answered in the coming months.

Can't wait.

[jonbays]

Originally Posted by BLSTIC

the chip will plug into the expansion port on the ECU. That chip is then reprogrammed using a burner and appropriate software. to order all the stuff (pre-built) yourself would cost about 400, but then you have to install it and find the right software for it.

how do I know?

software page #1
software page #2
chip
burner
realtime burning

I love DIY... only problem is finding the right files to interpret the contents of the for chip (which can be found here

have fun.

now im going to call chiptorque and see if they can send me the definition files...

cya
Ben

Thanks for this Ben some good reading indeed. I need to look into this. It will all work with AU EEC-V too but as you say its the definition files you need defing the memory addres to table entry details and Ford seem to muck around with this from model to model.

[xr8ute]

Originally Posted by jonbays

It will all work with AU EEC-V too but as you say its the definition files you need defing the memory addres to table entry details

Exactly, and this is why products like Chiptorque and SCT/CAPA Flash Tuner are as expensive as they are...the "hardware" is the easy bit ;)

Datamine played with this Moates stuff on his EL (EF?), and was able to identify, and change the speed limiter. Not sure if he was able to do much more than that though...

[BLSTIC]

I must have a look into this advantage III software, although it looks like it will be hard to get, and/or expensive.

The ecu 'dump' is easy enough to get, but yeah, interpreting it... the guy who made the first software I linked to does make basic definition files for a price (which i dont think is much), but hasnt replied to my email yet.

As soon as I find the correct definition files, my car will be getting this treatment, along with some minor mods. What is the current record for an internally standard, unboosted 6cyl falcon?

[white_XR8]

all i want to no is how much extra KW is this goin to give me i have a ef standard xr8

[STOKEB]

1st Of December the eseries falsh tunners are available for sale. I already have one saved for me cause i had it tested on my car hahaha. 5 different programs 4 are adjustable and one is factory tune. only thing different from the au and ba falsh tunners this ones a chip that plugs to the bottom of the ecu with a toggle switch and you can change setrtings while driving the car not like the ba and au flash tunners there orsum

[335JET]

http://www.sctflash.com/product_chip.php
this is the SCT website, i believe these are the guys that actually design this sort og gear and capa get it off them.
This link shows the Eliminator switch chip and is almost word for word as Capa;s site.
I wonder how much these guys are asking for one and will it work on our E-series.

[ratter]

Originally Posted by BOSS 4LTR

http://www.sctflash.com/product_chip.php
this is the SCT website, i believe these are the guys that actually design this sort og gear and capa get it off them.
This link shows the Eliminator switch chip and is almost word for word as Capa;s site.
I wonder how much these guys are asking for one and will it work on our E-series.

SCT configure their product so they will not work directly on our aussie cars, the only way to get an aussie car to work with them is buy it via a Capa dealer, the ones capa get are configured for our aussie cars. Guys tried getting the flash box for the BA's and had no luck getting the US items.

Capa have to pay a pretty hefty licence fee to SCT which is why their prices are higher

[XR6TickfordBoy]

Originally Posted by white_XR8

all i want to no is how much extra KW is this goin to give me i have a ef standard xr8

well if they can get an extra 55rwkw on a 290 boss they should be able to get 15-20 extra rwkw on an e-series. especially with intake and exhaust mods!

[BLSTIC]

Originally Posted by white_XR8

all i want to no is how much extra KW is this goin to give me i have a ef standard xr8

depends on how bad your factory tune is. My EF Futura is pumping out 136rwhp stock, with AFR's of around 11:1. I'm guessing i should be around the 150 mark with a decent tune. your's should be 10-15hp above that on both counts.

[XR6TickfordBoy]

Originally Posted by LowEFGLi

Just was curious as it didnt really have a price listed only for the unit we need not for the chip burner. Thats cool.
I wonder what kind of extra power you can get from it just having an exhaust/extractor and snorkel and air filter upgrade. I guess these question will be answered in the coming months.

Can't wait.

Just put an order in with G&D this morn after a dyno run, car was doing 125rwkw with extractors+ full exhaust and a cold air intake, said it was running rich as and with the cappa chip should easily be able to get it to 135-140rwkw. The cappa chip is alot more tunable than a unichip especially if ur planning a cam upgrade as iwill be after my wallet recovers from the chip! Its $1295 for chip and tune which is better than a unichip and is the smart choice in the long run! and as said a toggle switch can be mounted in the car for around $250 extra so u can switch tunes whilst driving the car!

[Christiaan]

Originally Posted by XR6TickfordBoy

Just put an order in with G&D this morn after a dyno run, car was doing 125rwkw with extractors+ full exhaust and a cold air intake, said it was running rich as and with the cappa chip should easily be able to get it to 135-140rwkw. The cappa chip is alot more tunable than a unichip especially if ur planning a cam upgrade as iwill be after my wallet recovers from the chip! Its $1295 for chip and tune which is better than a unichip and is the smart choice in the long run! and as said a toggle switch can be mounted in the car for around $250 extra so u can switch tunes whilst driving the car!

Did i see your XR6 in the tyre shop over the road from Krispy Kreme on Thursday/Friday?

[Christiaan]

Also guys, don't think that this edit is a miracle cure. It'll sharpen your AFR's and squeeze some extra power out, but I don't think you should look at it for extre performance. Any extra kilowatts you get won't feel like much more power at all. It'll just be smoother and run right.

[XR6TickfordBoy]

Originally Posted by shuresm58

Did i see your XR6 in the tyre shop over the road from Krispy Kreme on Thursday/Friday?

Nah I was at home friday night, but it would be highly likely it was me any other time as i work at Krispy's and my car is always parked in that area!

[dansedgli]

The edit would be sweet for all of those guys running turbo kits that dont want an aftermarket ECU to be wired in. It would be much easier to return the car to stock when they get defected.

Plug and play ECU's FTW.

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by shuresm58

Also guys, don't think that this edit is a miracle cure. It'll sharpen your AFR's and squeeze some extra power out, but I don't think you should look at it for extre performance. Any extra kilowatts you get won't feel like much more power at all. It'll just be smoother and run right.

that's entirely dependant on what your current setup is. If you have already added the go faster bits, cam heads manifold etc and are still running the factory ECU, the tune should add quite a noticable increase. No one would be shelling out over a grand for some software if you didn't get a noticable increase in power. With my setup i'm presuming i'll get a decent kick in the pants from the tune. And saying "but i don't think you should look at it for extra performance" .. that's just an odd thing to say.

[XRated]

Don't forget the purpose of a chip isn't for outright peak power gains. You might only see a 5-10rwkw gain, but the throttle response might be a lot sharper, fuel economy may decrease to an acceptable level, the power curve may be smoother/more linear and the chip will also allow for different shift points with the autos if I've read correctly.

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by XRated

Don't forget the purpose of a chip isn't for outright peak power gains. You might only see a 5-10rwkw gain, but the throttle response might be a lot sharper, fuel economy may decrease to an acceptable level, the power curve may be smoother/more linear and the chip will also allow for different shift points with the autos if I've read correctly.

yep and as i said for those who already have the go fast bits, you could see gains of 40rwkw, as well as better torque curvs. It's entireley dependant on the individual car.

by the way the software is out to some suppliers, however the chips haven't been shipped yet, and most likely won't be until some time in November according to a reliable source.

I've been lucky enough to book myself in as one of the first worked 302's to get the treatment, as soon as the chips roll in the door! I'll document the progress in my EB's thread.

[XR6TickfordBoy]

The chips are available from 1st of November, the boys at G&D rang Cappa in front of me and confirmed they will have the chip ready to go on the 2nd. My car is booked for the 2nd at G&D installed and tuned! So whether that means theres a limited number or what on the 1st I dont know, but if there is ive bagged myself one!

[Walkinshaw]

Originally Posted by BLSTIC

now im going to call chiptorque and see if they can send me the definition files...

cya
Ben

You would have better luck asking for a nuke from the US government

[old_mate]

also means we can get cams that would otherwise make the EEC run to its mum with its pants down crying like a kid who fell on his head and dropped his icecream

[Christiaan]

fantz, valid points.

I was kinda directing my remark to the guys with stock cars. Yours used to be blown for gods sake, and has a heavily worked engine and AFR's that suck balls :P Of course your car will benefit from a tune.

The guys runnung extractors and baby cams, don't expect miracles.

[old_mate]

its well known even a XR6 will gain some rwkw for taking fuel out of the car by using the stock pressure reg as opposed to the ticky one. This thing will allow blokes to tune for 98, advance timing, optimise A/F ratios, allow for valet, economy, and 91ron tunes

I would imagine a 10/15rwkw gain possible on a stock/near stock car?

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by shuresm58

fantz, valid points.

I was kinda directing my remark to the guys with stock cars. Yours used to be blown for gods sake, and has a heavily worked engine and AFR's that suck balls :P Of course your car will benefit from a tune.

The guys runnung extractors and baby cams, don't expect miracles.

point taken - and yep right on the money. except, AFR's ? if you're talking about the heads they're edelbrock ;p

Originally Posted by old_mate

its well known even a XR6 will gain some rwkw for taking fuel out of the car by using the stock pressure reg as opposed to the ticky one. This thing will allow blokes to tune for 98, advance timing, optimise A/F ratios, allow for valet, economy, and 91ron tunes

I would imagine a 10/15rwkw gain possible on a stock/near stock car?

again, right on the money. stock cars you could bank on 10-20rwkw, and what you get after that, if at all, is a bonus. Still worth it in my opinion though.

[Kenaz]

Originally Posted by fantz

except, AFR's ? if you're talking about the heads they're edelbrock ;p

Air/Fuel ratios

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by Kenaz

Air/Fuel ratios

ahh
thought he meant the brand AFR :\