Got my piping done :D - Page 2

Walkinshaw · 03-06-2005, 03:51 PM

Good work mate.

I love the hidden cooler!!!

chelvdog · 03-06-2005, 04:05 PM

I sounds good, but some of it sounds and looks a bit dodgy...
engine fires, TB injectors, 2inch piping??????
I hope it holds together for you Sunny...

EFFalcon · 03-06-2005, 04:18 PM

2inch piping is pretty normal, the turbo outlet is only 2", so there is no need for bigger.
TB injectors, just a simple way to add fuel rather then aftermarket ECU, they're triggered at a certain point in the rev range (usually when boost hits)

ilsautomotive · 03-06-2005, 04:18 PM

She'll be right mate.

Sundeep · 03-06-2005, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chelvdog

engine fires, TB injectors, 2inch piping??????

Engine fire was explained. Was caused by oil leaking (****ing) from the rocker cover, over and under the exhaust manifold on to the block, which you can guess is pretty hot with the exhaust manifold's sitting over it. So it caught fire, nothing dodgy or suss, it's been explained why.

TB injectors is part of/controlled by the Microfueler. Microfueler's were used by AVO when the first EA turbo kits came out, along with many other aftermarket turbo kits before the engine management fad began. You can adjust the duration of the spray and when they come on, in my case in comes on at 0PSI.

2" piping is to reduce the lag. When you have a small turbo etc. I'm told it's better to go the smaller piping to reduce the lag, and the outlet on the compressor cover is 2". I called up the guy and clarified this.

Happy?

Sundeep

LUXO_8 · 03-06-2005, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundeep

I know Karl put a EF 3.45LSD in his EB, but I don't know what he did about the brakes. Anyone have a spare EF diff I can scab the axles from

Sundeep

he's going to be helping put my EL XR diff in soonish, he said we'll use my current brakes.... he said they go on....

mcflux · 03-06-2005, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by EFFalcon

TB injectors, just a simple way to add fuel rather then aftermarket ECU, they're triggered at a certain point in the rev range (usually when boost hits)

What a novel idea!

neb · 03-06-2005, 05:00 PM

sounds pretty mad... i love the vl turbo style flutter! hehe. seems to be coming along well

Tiga_EL · 03-06-2005, 05:30 PM

Well done on getting it all up and running....

sphell · 03-06-2005, 08:44 PM

just on the piping thing, originally I said he should turn the compressor housing around but then after looking in the engine bay, there really isn't any room. The turbo sits fairly low in the bay and if you had the piping down there it would have to go into a sharp 90deg bend to clear the block and face the battery box. It would have looked better but probably wouldn't have flowed as well due to the bend. And I'd rather take 2" piping anyday over 2.5". I used 2.5" and it was a nightmare. You don't realise how big it is till you have to cut holes everywhere. Dan's EB had 2" on the turbo side and that was fine. For sunny's setup 2" is ample.

NZ · 04-06-2005, 06:32 AM

Sunny - you won't beable to just slot ef axles into your diff. ef axles will be 28 spline, your diff will have a 25 spline centre. so basically it will never work. you'd need to gram an ed diff (or eb2) as long as it has a 28 spline centre to beable to use the ef axles.

just take it to a diff shopand say ' i want a 4 pin 28 pline lsd centre with 3.9 gears please.

galapogos01 · 04-06-2005, 09:31 AM

OT, but i saw you cruising the city last (friday) night Sunny... Elizabeth st, nfi what time. Looking & sounding good mate! And was that Kenaz' old car following?

Jase

Kenaz · 04-06-2005, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by galapogos01

And was that Kenaz' old car following?

It wouldn't of been, it's been up on stands in the garage for the last two weeks.

galapogos01 · 04-06-2005, 12:00 PM

I was wondering if had been finished! i had a few drinks by that stage though...

Sundeep · 05-06-2005, 07:18 PM

Yeah too many drinks Jase lol.

Just wondering here, the car has been inconsistent fuelling and performance wise since all the piping was installed. Sometimes going well, at other times going sluggish, lagging and flatspotting. I reckon a majority of it is caused by the un-tuned state of it all, and a dodgy TPS. Now I was also wondering if the distance between the factory fuel reg and the Malpassi could cause it, as the distance between the 2 is about 1.5 metre of fuel hose.

I'm 99% sure it would, because on boost the pressure has to build to 30PSI with only a trickle of fuel probably returning from the rail.

Tomorrow hopefully I will change the manifold loom and fix the TPS's, then plumb up the extra injectors and Malpassi differently. I think I have it all sussed out.

The Malpassi also makes strange hissing and whining noises on startup which go away mysteriously each time the engine flatspots. So I'm thinking there's definitely a pressure problem there.

Anyways, opinions appreciated!

Sundeep

needfordspeed · 05-06-2005, 07:32 PM

ok here's another vid, this one has a MAD flutter in it, just excuse sunny talking about TPS's and changing gears manually:P

http://users.tpg.com.au/gillau/vide.3gp

Sundeep · 05-06-2005, 07:34 PM

LOL! That's sick, I haven't seen that 1! Dial up friendly too!

That video is rated M (L); And is suitable for mature audiences. It contains course language.

Sundeep

Kenaz · 05-06-2005, 07:35 PM

hehe... sweet!

AdzT3-146 · 05-06-2005, 08:06 PM

sounds sic! hehe

galapogos01 · 05-06-2005, 08:08 PM

i still dont get how you can run two fuel pressure regs on one fuel rail and end up with a rise in pressure at the rail. wouldnt you have to remove the stock one?

what about your pump?

maybe a chat to a performance shop would help? dynomotive or someone like that?

and who was following you anywya??

Sundeep · 05-06-2005, 08:32 PM

Whe the aftermarket regulator reaches a pressure that is above the factory reg's pressure, the factory regulator will constantly stay open trying to relieve the extra pressure, get it?

The pump was changed on the Bundoora cruise, and it has had the same problem on both pumps. It has to be something in the way I have connected the regulators up.

Sundeep

Psycho Chicken · 05-06-2005, 08:36 PM

The first reg will bleed pressure off but the second one will hold pressure.

au-steve · 05-06-2005, 08:40 PM

nice sunny, nice. i was jus getting some work done before heathcote

... hehehe

my goal in life is to beat dan by a second or more

on my way there as well

dansedgli · 05-06-2005, 08:41 PM

HAHA!!!
/cue laughing you made at bogan in V8 VN.

Your going down steve!

Qwikcorty · 05-06-2005, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundeep

LOL! That's sick, I haven't seen that 1! Dial up friendly too!

That video is rated M (L); And is suitable for mature audiences. It contains course language.

Sundeep

sunny isnt that sound u like cause ur turbo to have a shorter lifespan? i will be using 2 bov's pshhhhhhhhh!

NZ · 05-06-2005, 09:32 PM

Is your fuel pressure always at about 30psi? thats below what they should be as standard.

galapogos01 · 05-06-2005, 10:22 PM

ok.. so the reg thing makes sense...

maybe the stock pump isnt enough to keep up with the demand of higher flow through the stock injectors PLUS two additional ones?

weird noises doesnt sound right though.

oh well, good luck...

ea90_S · 08-06-2005, 04:44 PM

that vl type noise is caused by the air going back to the turbos getting sliced by the blades i would get a bov asap.

chown · 13-06-2005, 01:04 PM

hey guys it seems like you know what ur talkin about and i know about jack all so i was wondering if u could help me out with a little advice. I've got my parents 04 fiesta and i know its gutless compared to all ur cars but i wanted to add a hotdog or some kind of exhaust to it so it sounds a little more like a mans car. What do you suggest?? Would it help my cause at all? thanx heaps if u can give me a hand..

Tiga_EL · 13-06-2005, 06:14 PM

Maybe try asking in a different thread... ;)