First fine on Eastlink! - Page 2

JG66ME · 30-06-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by boss 300

i agree to jg66me,go to Europe, you be scare for life

Just keep to the left and you will be fine. In Europe you should keep to the right, unless overtaking.

T_Terror · 30-06-2008, 11:21 PM

100kmh is just ridiculously low for that road.

snappy · 01-07-2008, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by T_Terror

100kmh is just ridiculously low for that road.

not when for 3ks over the limit is a fine is 130+ . Great business to be in . Should buy shares.

4Vman · 01-07-2008, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by T_Terror

100kmh is just ridiculously low for that road.

That's all good and well when its quiet, but when there is allot of traffic on roads like this its very easy to get into trouble with cars changing lanes and the speed differential between fast moving cars and merging traffic, slower traffic and trucks.. The ring road is a shocker when its busy, and over 100kph would be just plain stupid.

Cobra · 01-07-2008, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

That's all good and well when its quiet, but when there is allot of traffic on roads like this its very easy to get into trouble with cars changing lanes and the speed differential between fast moving cars and merging traffic, slower traffic and trucks.. The ring road is a shocker when its busy, and over 100kph would be just plain stupid.

And that's where variable speed limits should come into play. I've driven on the ring road, eastern freeway, monash, all over Melbourne when speed limits may as well be ignored as you're crawling at snail pace. Other times I've driven on them when the only other car on the road is your shaddow, and it's just plain stupid to be going that slow. I would say that the Princes fwy (Geelong rd) would have to take the cake as the most painfully slow road to drive 100km on for the most part, especially after it turns into 4 lanes after Hoppers Crossing.

JG66ME · 01-07-2008, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Cobra

And that's where variable speed limits should come into play. I've driven on the ring road, eastern freeway, monash, all over Melbourne when speed limits may as well be ignored as you're crawling at snail pace. Other times I've driven on them when the only other car on the road is your shaddow, and it's just plain stupid to be going that slow. I would say that the Princes fwy (Geelong rd) would have to take the cake as the most painfully slow road to drive 100km on for the most part, especially after it turns into 4 lanes after Hoppers Crossing.

Exactly. Speed limits used as a traffic flow managment and to ensure speeds are kept at a level appropriate for the conditions. This includes density of traffic, traffic ahead, accidents and roadworks as well as rain and fog.

LTDterri · 01-07-2008, 01:21 PM

What made him a bigger tool than he already made himself was the fun and laughter as channel 7 was filming him, he thought he was a star, what I thought was funny was the facial expression when the cops told him he was going to lose his licence. Obviously does not understand English, they have had so many promos for this Freeway and even introducing the Police officers that will pull you over if you speed yadda yadda.....and this tool still didn'y get it.

Bobman · 01-07-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LTDterri

What made him a bigger tool than he already made himself was the fun and laughter as channel 7 was filming him, he thought he was a star, what I thought was funny was the facial expression when the cops told him he was going to lose his licence. Obviously does not understand English, they have had so many promos for this Freeway and even introducing the Police officers that will pull you over if you speed yadda yadda.....and this tool still didn'y get it.

Yeah, the new-age "Corey" types.

[Tonko] · 01-07-2008, 07:51 PM

Bloody P-platers :P

/waits for a nibble....

SSVPom · 01-07-2008, 08:34 PM

On the Eastlink topic - seems like my daily commute from Springvale Rd to Hoddle Street just got longer due to the (to coin a UK traffic term) "Sheer weight of traffic"

Took me an extra 10mins at least each way today, maybe the mornings weather was something to do with it, but queued on the on ramp at Springvale Rd city bound to get on the freeway at 7am !

After all the hype has died down, and the kiddies are back at school, we'll probably get a clearer idea...

**Whoosha** · 01-07-2008, 08:39 PM

So what"s the general opinion of the 5.2 millon they spent on the art work

.. nice road but

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schmidty · 01-07-2008, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

That's all good and well when its quiet, but when there is allot of traffic on roads like this its very easy to get into trouble with cars changing lanes and the speed differential between fast moving cars and merging traffic, slower traffic and trucks.. The ring road is a shocker when its busy, and over 100kph would be just plain stupid.

It wouldn't matter if the traffic is running an 5, 35, 85, or 125, there's always some d!(k knob breaking their neck to get nowhere, the motorbikes will still lane split dangerously, and a#$(holes will still pull out in front of trucks with less than a car length gap regardless of the weather, speed or traffic situation.

Had some on a road bike come between me and another b double on the monash on my way home this morning almost scraping both handlebars on our trailers, rubbed his elbow on my curtains and when i gave him a serve out the window as he was coming up slapped the side of my cab. I'm smack on 26m long and 4.5m high, if a gust of wind had have hit me sideways and blown me 6 or 8 inches sideways he'd have been off and under 6 sets of trailer wheels and i'd be the worst person on earth.

It's about time the coppers stopped their scare campaign with speed and cracked down on the real dangers on the road. Raise all the revenue they want, as long as they're making the roads safer by detering blatant d!(k head actions and stopped harassing someone who's 5km over the limit at 3am on an empty road. Even on a nice brand new flowing freeway like east link the traffic is too parnoid to do 100kmh anymore. So people just day dream in the left lane oblivious to the real dangers while texting, doing make up and hair, reading the paper or using their laptops. Being on the road 4 - 5000km a week you see it all. Saw 2 guys do a driver change on the freeway right in front of me the other day, AT 100KMH!!! Driver set cruise, got up and stood on drivers seat, passenger climbed over the back and driver climbed across to passenger seat still holding the wheel while passenger got in drivers seat. I'd rather share east link with 20 people doing 135kmh than these trippers.

schmidty · 01-07-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FairmontPom

On the Eastlink topic - seems like my daily commute from Springvale Rd to Hoddle Street just got longer due to the (to coin a UK traffic term) "Sheer weight of traffic"

Took me an extra 10mins at least each way today, maybe the mornings weather was something to do with it, but queued on the on ramp at Springvale Rd city bound to get on the freeway at 7am !

After all the hype has died down, and the kiddies are back at school, we'll probably get a clearer idea...

In low traffic times it's awesome. Lara to rosebud in a B double usually takes me 2 hours and 5 mins at 2 am, simply because of the 400 roundabouts on western port hwy, baxter - tooradin rd and mooraduc hwy. Last night i ran it on east link and did it in 1 hour 42 mins. The diesel savings alone keeping 55 tonnes moving instead of having to pull out of all those round a bouts up to 100kmh again would pay the tolls 10 times over. two thumbs up so far.

Bobman · 01-07-2008, 09:44 PM

schmidty, how'd you go this morning?

Traffic along the Bolte and the West Gate bridge was absolutely terrible. Cars and trucks swaying side to side and more than enough rain for the wipers to handle.

More tomorrow apparently.

Agree with your comments about idiot drivers/riders. That's what Police should be focusing on, not 5km/h over the limit (as the Government seem to think is the only reason for road fatalities).

ILLaViTaR · 02-07-2008, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JG66ME

Deary me. The average Brit sits on 90mph every day of the week on motorways in England. Cops dont do a thing. Here its front page news

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Other countrys with far less distances to travel have 130kmh limits.

On the FG page people winge because the F6 cannot crack 100k in under 5 seconds and here you want to hang a guy for doing 135. WTF.

We are supposed to fight these dumb laws, not condone them. Its about time people here learnt to drive and the laws allowed us to drive so that we can cover the vast distances of this land in reasonable time.

100kmh, how gay is that.

Amen.

colossus · 02-07-2008, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JG66ME

Deary me. The average Brit sits on 90mph every day of the week on motorways in England. Cops dont do a thing. Here its front page news

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Other countrys with far less distances to travel have 130kmh limits.

On the FG page people winge because the F6 cannot crack 100k in under 5 seconds and here you want to hang a guy for doing 135. WTF.

We are supposed to fight these dumb laws, not condone them. Its about time people here learnt to drive and the laws allowed us to drive so that we can cover the vast distances of this land in reasonable time.

100kmh, how gay is that.

I was reading this thread from the top and getting angry that everyone wanted to hang this guy then i saw you post - totally agree with you. 135 is small change. 100km/h for a brand new motorway in a first world country is a complete joke. I'm surprised his car didnt implode and the wheels end up in NSW when he hit 130...

Bearman · 02-07-2008, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FairmontPom

On the Eastlink topic - seems like my daily commute from Springvale Rd to Hoddle Street just got longer due to the (to coin a UK traffic term) "Sheer weight of traffic"

Took me an extra 10mins at least each way today, maybe the mornings weather was something to do with it, but queued on the on ramp at Springvale Rd city bound to get on the freeway at 7am !

After all the hype has died down, and the kiddies are back at school, we'll probably get a clearer idea...

I was in that same queue....... what a pain in the butt!!

So such probs this morning though but the freeway itself was quite slow all the way in. I'd hate to be trying to commute even 30mins later, it'll be chaos!!

irlewy86 · 02-07-2008, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Whoosha

So what"s the general opinion of the 5.2 millon they spent on the art work

.. nice road but

For 5.2 million I'd want the hotel to be (

: swear filter working overtime) operational.

Bobman · 02-07-2008, 05:19 PM

I wonder if you can even get in or is it just a solid concrete block?

woteva · 02-07-2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobman

I wonder if you can even get in or is it just a solid concrete block?

There is a door in the side and a stair case inside but I don't know what else. You can see in the windows but can't really see what else is actually in there.

Bobman · 02-07-2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by woteva

There is a door in the side and a stair case inside but I don't know what else. You can see in the windows but can't really see what else is actually in there.

Might end up being the new home for some of the local homeless. Well, kudos to whoever checks it out and posts pictures

JG66ME · 02-07-2008, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobman

Might end up being the new home for some of the local homeless. Well, kudos to whoever checks it out and posts pictures

Realy that is a sad reflection on our socity dont you think? We have people struggling to put a roof over their heads but we build a f*$k off great ornament like that. I mean, build anything but a fake hotel, that is dangling the carrot. So sad. They could of built a house to give a roof over 50 homeless kids instead.

[Tonko] · 02-07-2008, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JG66ME

Realy that is a sad reflection on our socity dont you think? We have people struggling to put a roof over their heads but we build a f*$k off great ornament like that. I mean, build anything but a fake hotel, that is dangling the carrot. So sad. They could of built a house to give a roof over 50 homeless kids instead.

I understand what you mean, but most of the homeless ones i have seen, dont want help. There is heaps of places that can help them. I'm yet to meet a bum that is legit. The kids are mostly stupid, stubborn teens that dont think they need peoples help or just dont care.
Well, In my experience anyway. Maybe its different in the city....

Bobman · 03-07-2008, 03:23 AM

I'm all for supporting the lower-income earners (being one myself).

Tonko is right though, many don't want help and shy away from assistance. Certainly in my experience also. On the same token though, no-one has to end up like that, especially in our modern society where there is plenty of work around.

I agree about all the millions being spent on various items around the country. However, what is most annoying are the government grants given out to various organisations. For example, a $30,000 grant to "graffiti" buildings by an art group, a few months ago in Melbourne.

On topic: Eastlink suffered a fair few snarls yesterday, including another boom gate deployment (thanks to an over height truck). Also a minor accident in one of the tunnels. Traffic was banked right up to Springvale Road.