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Old 10-08-2009, 07:20 PM   #31
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So you're suggesting that a device that alerts a driver that allows him to slow from infinity to the legal limit is a good thing?

Given the speed that have been clocked by morons and reported on the road recently, would you be happy with motorists driving at 120kph past your child's school where no police were policing?
What makes you think these morons would have a radar detector? More than likely it would be someone who depends on their licence for thier work. One more thing, the year following the banning of them in NSW the road toll increased. And as has been said you can drive at 120k through a school zone and it isnt deemed to be as great an offence as owning a radar detector, go figure.
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Old 10-08-2009, 08:17 PM   #32
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Old 10-08-2009, 10:58 PM   #33
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So you're suggesting that a device that alerts a driver that allows him to slow from infinity to the legal limit is a good thing?

Given the speed that have been clocked by morons and reported on the road recently, would you be happy with motorists driving at 120kph past your child's school where no police were policing?
That's a mighty big brush you've got there.

If some moron is going to speed at 120kph past a school, they'll do it whether they've got a radar detector or not. AFAIK police don't even need a speed readout to book you for dangerous driving.

I don't have a radar detector. In the past eight years I've had two driving infringements: one on the freeway doing the same speed as everyone else in the same lane, and one on a bypass road at night with no other traffic on the road.

A radar detector could have alerted me to pay more attention to my speed and saved me $300, total. Given the cost of the unit in the first place though, I'd still be out of pocket.

But, given the sneeky tactics used by some police and camera contractors, and given that they are still legal to buy and use in WA (for the moment), I am definately considering buying one.

I rarely speed anyway, but it's good for the little man to feel he has a chance against a system that tries so hard to keep the deck stacked in it's own favour.

As for the carpark doughnuts, that's just sheer stupidity.

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Old 11-08-2009, 12:34 AM   #34
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Old 11-08-2009, 09:38 AM   #35
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So you're suggesting that a device that alerts a driver that allows him to slow from infinity to the legal limit is a good thing?

Given the speed that have been clocked by morons and reported on the road recently, would you be happy with motorists driving at 120kph past your child's school where no police were policing?
If the driver was stupid and was doing a speed way over the limit they would know that they would still get caught as the radar detector doesn't give that much of a warning.
I've found most of the time going through school zones that the ones speeding are the parents picking up there kids.
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Old 12-08-2009, 09:39 PM   #36
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So you're suggesting that a device that alerts a driver that allows him to slow from infinity to the legal limit is a good thing?

Given the speed that have been clocked by morons and reported on the road recently, would you be happy with motorists driving at 120kph past your child's school where no police were policing?

The point of a detector is so you slow down? The government want us to slow down yes? Iam assuming these devices will detect the speed cameras that are hidden away nicely? Like in the back of ordinary station wagons, wheelie bins etc. So you would slow down with this device (whether speeding or not just like most ppl do when they see a police car). So this device would slow you down driving past a hidden speed camera where you would not normally slow down having greater risk of causing armagedon because your going 5klms over or whatever. So in these instances which i would say would be far greater (esspecially living in a city area) then actually seeing a police car on the road. And would do more good by slowing you down and preventing said distruction because speed kills and all the other rubbish.

Because the general alternative to a device like this that causes you to slow down, is to keep on going your current speed and getting a fine in the mail 3 weeks later. And we all know those letters save lives right?

PS. Dont twist my words and make me sound like iam saying its ok to speed or that you are good toshoes and never speed. But someone gets some statistics on how many people do speed (speeding fines) then see how many of them are bu cameras (which do not save lives unless in signed in dangerous areas IMO). Then think to see whether all those people would have slowed down at that point if they had a detector?? Something to think about.
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Old 13-08-2009, 12:52 AM   #37
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It shows the true governement mind set.

Possession of a radar detector is a far greater crime that 30km/h over the limit in a school zone at 3pm or running a red light or not wearing a seat belt or not putting your baby in a capsule AND doing burnouts in an empty car park at night is a greater crime than drink driving or driving under the influence of a drug or driving an unregistered and uninsured vehicle.

And they wonder why there is so much contempt for them and their laws.....

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Kill someone or steal money from a private organisation and they will try and look for you if it is not too hard and they have some spare time between speed camera duties.

Interfere with potential government revenue and they will hunt you until the end of the universe......
That old saying comes to mind "don't steal, the government doesn't like competition!".
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Old 13-08-2009, 06:59 AM   #38
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A radar detector could have alerted me to pay more attention to my speed and saved me $300, total. Given the cost of the unit in the first place though, I'd still be out of pocket.
It would have alerted you to pay more attention while police were checking speed in the area, nothing more. You can't hold it up as a public safety device because of those 20 seconds it made you check your speed.

I would suggest in many cases, a radar detector allows those who own one to drive with impunity with regards to speed limits when it's not alerting you to police presence and take care on the 1% of the time you're behind the wheel and police are checking speed.

I'm not arguing the rights of wrongs of current road laws but I don't buy the safety aspect of a radar detector that people trot out when it comes up.
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Old 13-08-2009, 07:09 AM   #39
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The point of a detector is so you slow down? The government want us to slow down yes? Iam assuming these devices will detect the speed cameras that are hidden away nicely? Like in the back of ordinary station wagons, wheelie bins etc. So you would slow down with this device (whether speeding or not just like most ppl do when they see a police car). So this device would slow you down driving past a hidden speed camera where you would not normally slow down having greater risk of causing armagedon because your going 5klms over or whatever. So in these instances which i would say would be far greater (esspecially living in a city area) then actually seeing a police car on the road. And would do more good by slowing you down and preventing said distruction because speed kills and all the other rubbish.

Because the general alternative to a device like this that causes you to slow down, is to keep on going your current speed and getting a fine in the mail 3 weeks later. And we all know those letters save lives right?
The point of a radar detector is to slow you down before you get pinged with fines and demerits, not act as a community service safety device. If motorists without these 'safety' devices installed, merrily passed speed cameras above the posted limit then most of us would be without valid drivers licences.

The alternative is to obey the limits at all times and not receiving the fine in the mail 3 weeks later.

I'm no saint and there are times I'm over the limit but I'd say 95+% of my driving is at or under the limit. I just assume there's a cop or a camera over each crest and drive accordingly. Received 1 speeding fine in 20 years - sans radar detector.
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Old 13-08-2009, 07:14 AM   #40
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The point of a radar detector is to slow you down before you get pinged with fines and demerits, not act as a community service safety device. If motorists without these 'safety' devices installed, merrily passed speed cameras above the posted limit then most of us would be without valid drivers licences.

The alternative is to obey the limits at all times and not receiving the fine in the mail 3 weeks later.

I'm no saint and there are times I'm over the limit but I'd say 95+% of my driving is at or under the limit. I just assume there's a cop or a camera over each crest and drive accordingly. Received 1 speeding fine in 20 years - sans radar detector.

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Old 13-08-2009, 07:31 PM   #41
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Old 13-08-2009, 07:59 PM   #42
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Old 13-08-2009, 08:27 PM   #43
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Am I the only one that thinks its a bit funny losing your car for 3 months but your licence for six months. You lose you car but what does that matter when you can't drive it anyway. Just a thought.
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Old 13-08-2009, 09:05 PM   #44
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You would be suprised how many people drive whist disqualified like nothing has happened probably drive to the motor registry at the end of their time to pick up their licence aswell........
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Old 13-08-2009, 09:48 PM   #45
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My wagon broke down(snowing hard at night) in that exact car park although a bit closer to woolies.

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