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Old 27-06-2011, 04:41 PM   #31
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Australian drivers are among the world's worst in their attitudes (so much for the myth of the easy-going laid back country), you have to live with it. Also I don't know if you're from a city, where people are really stressed out because transportation systems are so bad. Move to the country, you'll find people more considerate!
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Australian's are among the world's worst in their attitudes (so much for the myth of the easy-going laid back country), you have to live with it. Also I don't know if you're from a city, where people are really stressed out because transportation systems are so bad. Move to the country, you'll find people more considerate!
This is why people wont let you in.
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Old 27-06-2011, 10:41 PM   #32
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One in, one through. No time for clowns who race up the outside lane all the way to the end, pushing past all the cars that are sitting and waiting in line and doing the right thing. If I spot someone in the mirrors coming up I tend to creep over the line to let them know it's not appreciated. Otherwise, one in, one through. And always give the courtesy wave!
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Old 27-06-2011, 11:19 PM   #33
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A week ago I was first at the lights. I saw a car come up the left and stop next to me. I knew he was going to illegally try to get in front of me, so as the opposing light went red I slowly rolled forward. This guy didn't want to let me get in front, so he actually took off though the intersection even though our light was still red.
I took off behind him(on green) and just shook my head at him as he looked in his mirror.

Next set of lights he stopped next to me and started going off his head.
I put down my window to see what his problem was, but he was just swearing and carrying on, telling me to pull over so we can fight. I just laughed at him and told him to get over himself because he is not the most important person on the road and he can't do whatever he likes. Then I put up my window and ignored him.
He looked like a try hard drop kick as well.

Some people are just ****** in the head and have personal issue. They get on the road and think they are king ****.
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Old 28-06-2011, 12:14 AM   #34
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^ out of curiosity what was he driving?
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Old 28-06-2011, 12:15 AM   #35
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i follow a simple rule when letting someone in, whether it be at a merge lane or someone pulling out: I let one in, and the guy behind me can let the next one in.

EDIT: also, if i see someone speeding up through a merge lane, i cordially take up both the merge lane and my lane to block them off Call me an A$$, but if he/she is going to aggressively push their way in, they aint getting in front of me.
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Old 28-06-2011, 12:21 AM   #36
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If my experience from Qatar taught me anything, you just have to be aggressive. Even here back in Aus I still use a few of the tactics I had to employ over there.

Essentially you have to in turn give them the "bugger you" attitude and just edge your bonnet in front of their bonnet and not back down.

It definately works, some people will try and play the game of chicken but they know in the end it will mean a paint exchange.

Ofcourse if their are significant differences in speed you can't do this.
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Old 28-06-2011, 12:35 AM   #37
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I always let the trucky's in, it amuses me how pi$$ed off people get when i am sitting in peak hour.
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Old 28-06-2011, 01:09 AM   #38
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some people are just A holes, that`s all there is to it.
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Old 28-06-2011, 05:46 AM   #39
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I used to let people in all the time and still will in certain situations, but one day I stopped, mainly because people are ungrateful dogs that never acknlowedge or thank. So now I charge on through.
Yep, noticed that quite a lot too, no wave, or head wobble!
One sad thing though is that i always found driving in brisbane much better then driving in townsville. Drivers in Brissy were overall much nicer then here!
As I drove home the further north i got the worse the attitude.
Cairns im sorry to say is like the cespool when its comes to driver attitude.
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Old 28-06-2011, 06:50 AM   #40
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Yes, it's quite sad how bad Australian drivers are. People should try driving overseas and see how much of a good experience it is with every driver being courteous to each other. Even the crazy Italian drivers are more courteous than Australian drivers.
I'm one of the drivers that will let people in. I just assume that the favour will be repaid at some time in the future, but not always.
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Old 28-06-2011, 08:19 AM   #41
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Back to the OP's statement, if I understand correctly you are trying to turn right from a minor road onto a more major road during peak times. I will often let the person in if they are turing left in front of me but am loathed to let them turn right as can often be left waiting for quite some time. What I do when in your situation is to turn left & then somewhere down the street turn around Eg. at the round about you stated was just there. Might seem a little stupid but much safer for all & often just as quick.
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Old 28-06-2011, 08:30 AM   #42
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The thing that really ****** me off is when people leave it till the last moment to try and merge, especially on the gateway and m1 merge in Brisbane. There is about a 2-300m merging lane and they race up passing alot of cars (cause it is always backed up and under speed) and try to merge in the last 10m when they could have easily merged 100m back. Or even when i have merged and they race pass me to try and get 10 cars further up, then because they are such dicks no one let's them in and everyone has to stop just for them

If everyone just learnt how to merge we wouldn't have any problems but cause everyone lives in there own little bubble these days and don't have a clue or care about what is happening around them we have these problems, and until peoples attitudes change it will always be the same.

I'm the same, I let 1 car in.
My decision to let someone in comes mostly from if they are using their indicator. No indicator means you are not courteous to tell other road users what you are doing, so expect the same type of behaviour back

And I don't accept the one blink. The road rules clearly state how long before and after the move to indicate.
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Old 28-06-2011, 09:06 AM   #43
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Driver's seem to do anything to position themselves in front of me (when I am driving my commercial van) so it is unfortunate that I have resorted to also respond aggressively now in my day to day driving. If I see a driver approaching at speed in an effort to cut in front of me in a merging lane, I just put the wheels out to block the event. I have people use turn left only lanes to get in front, use red lights to gain advantage, even drive in the opposite lane to get in front on a typical single lane two direction suburban busy road with no overtaking lane! And this happens DAILY! I feel sorry for truckers. But as for jumping the queue, I can see why some drivers won't allow another driver into their lane. If it's busy, cars banked up for some distance, why would they let someone into their lane that hasn't spent any time waiting to do so? That seems the general concencus when talking to other people about driving habits here in Newcastle.
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^ out of curiosity what was he driving?
Some early 90's POS little hatchback. Looks like he bought it from the wreckers with his centrelink paycheck.
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Old 28-06-2011, 09:54 AM   #45
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Am I the only one here who thinks not getting a wave is no big deal? If I'm letting someone in, I don't expect or need a wave to validate that I have done so.

As for those that drive to the end of a merging lane, they are perfectly within their rights to do so. Why get all cut up when they are doing nothing wrong except in your eyes "beating" you and costing you an additional 3 seconds of your journey. As for those that feel the need to block both lanes they are in to stop people using roads as they have been designed to be used, I find it a crack up as they are the ones that are potentially breaking the law, not the "terrible" people actually using the merging lanes.

Some of you are sounding as bad if not worse than the ones you are bagging out.
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Because shes trying to get pregnant and trap you in a loveless mariage.
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Because shes trying to get pregnant and trap you in a loveless mariage.
Ehhh, what the?
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Because shes trying to get pregnant and trap you in a loveless mariage.
You've lost me on that comment
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Sorry just being a dick, first thing that popped into my head when i see pull out is as a contraceptive measure.
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Simple answer for the OP.

Because my time is more important to me than your time is to me. I want to save 30 seconds getting to me destination, I can't be bothered shifting my finger an inch to indicate & change lanes, or I'm just ignorant and haven't seen you.

Those are the reasons why. I deal with it every day both at an intersection from home into the highway, a T Intersection about a k from my house & onto the main road at work or the roundabout just up from my GF's house.

People are selfish on the roads. As said before, were one of the friendliest populations, but when we step behind the wheel, the gloves go on, & the teeth get bared. Why? Selfishness. People don't want to "disadvantage" themselves for anyone.

I always pull into the next lane (provided im not inconveniencing anyone else) and make space. But it bloody annoys me when people, especially on a clear highway, that that one person won't pull over into the right lane (or won't stay in it & merges left on me) to let me pull out. If there is enough room & a clear right lane, I will pull out & "force" them into doing what they should as a courteousy. Ignorant, rude bastards.
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Because shes trying to get pregnant and trap you in a loveless mariage.
LOL! bloody gold mate!

Surprised people didn't get it, but your humour wasn't lost on me
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Because shes trying to get pregnant and trap you in a loveless mariage.
AT first I was going to make a stupid joke like that. But then I forgot and still didn't click when I read this post
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As for those that drive to the end of a merging lane, they are perfectly within their rights to do so. Why get all cut up when they are doing nothing wrong except in your eyes "beating" you and costing you an additional 3 seconds of your journey.
By either accelerating to get to the very end of the merging lane when in peak traffic, OR pulling out of the lane to then race up the end to merge back into the same lane, they think they are better than everyone else. Their attitude is that their destination and time is more important than all the other drivers in traffic. It has nothing really to do with rights, law or "beating".
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I aways let people in except for taxis as they don't let me in.
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bahahaha. i was thinking the same thing when i saw the topic!
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By either accelerating to get to the very end of the merging lane when in peak traffic, OR pulling out of the lane to then race up the end to merge back into the same lane, they think they are better than everyone else. Their attitude is that their destination and time is more important than all the other drivers in traffic. It has nothing really to do with rights, law or "beating".
So how does it affect your trip to your destination, by them doing so, OR to speed up your trip by a couple of seconds, why don't you head up the merge lane?

Who cares if they think they are better than everyone else, or that their time is more important than all the other drivers. Not taking a shot at you, but I don't get it. I can't see how this is worth getting bitter and twisted for what really is no big deal at all.

Seriously, if 10 cars pulled in front of you, how much extra time do you think it adds to your trip? Even if they added 10 seconds per car (which it wouldn't), that's only about a minute and a half added to your trip. Hardly worth getting fired up about it.
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So how does it affect your trip to your destination, by them doing so, OR to speed up your trip by a couple of seconds, why don't you head up the merge lane?

Who cares if they think they are better than everyone else, or that their time is more important than all the other drivers. Not taking a shot at you, but I don't get it. I can't see how this is worth getting bitter and twisted for what really is no big deal at all.

Seriously, if 10 cars pulled in front of you, how much extra time do you think it adds to your trip? Even if they added 10 seconds per car (which it wouldn't), that's only about a minute and a half added to your trip. Hardly worth getting fired up about it.
Its because if ALL drivers merged over early, not roaring up the end then hitting the brakes, then the freeways would not come to a crawl.

That is how it affects us all.
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So how does it affect your trip to your destination, by them doing so, OR to speed up your trip by a couple of seconds, why don't you head up the merge lane?
Because I don't think I'm king of the road.

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Who cares if they think they are better than everyone else, or that their time is more important than all the other drivers. Not taking a shot at you, but I don't get it. I can't see how this is worth getting bitter and twisted for what really is no big deal at all.

Seriously, if 10 cars pulled in front of you, how much extra time do you think it adds to your trip? Even if they added 10 seconds per car (which it wouldn't), that's only about a minute and a half added to your trip. Hardly worth getting fired up about it.
Answer me this then. You are waiting in a queue in a store and 10 people decide to skip the line and barge in front of you. It's only going to affect you by 10 seconds per person, that's about a minute and a half added to your wait. Would you just stand there quietly and not care?
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The way i see it,if you are on a major road and there is a line of cars waiting on a side road you should let 1 car in (if you are stopping for lights or roundabout, or you are starting to slowly roll forward because a light up the road turned green) and then go yourself and it should continue this way 1 for 1.

As for the people in merge lanes, why do they not realise that if they stop sooner in the merge lane it allows them more road to accelerate to the speed limit and not hinder traffic as much, that way they are not pushing there way into the normal lane travelling well below the speed limit.

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im from Newcastle and i too have had people come up a right turn only lane at Toronto to go straight through the light and try to merge in on me because they were to lazy and impatient to sit in traffic. i dont exactly block them from coming up past me i try and make them spend some time waiting to merge as they are impatient and jumped the queue
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Am I the only one here who thinks not getting a wave is no big deal? If I'm letting someone in, I don't expect or need a wave to validate that I have done so.

As for those that drive to the end of a merging lane, they are perfectly within their rights to do so. Why get all cut up when they are doing nothing wrong except in your eyes "beating" you and costing you an additional 3 seconds of your journey. As for those that feel the need to block both lanes they are in to stop people using roads as they have been designed to be used, I find it a crack up as they are the ones that are potentially breaking the law, not the "terrible" people actually using the merging lanes.

Some of you are sounding as bad if not worse than the ones you are bagging out.
The sign that warns - "left lane ends, merge right" is not an invitation to pass another 10 cars. It is suggesting they should be looking to merge now, meaning match the speed of the cars they are near and merge. Not floor it and divebomb at the last second forcing the car they cut off and the 5 behind to hit the anchors. It usually isn't one car it is several - many times I've seen the left lane flowing and the middle lane be reduced to a crawl because of all the people - some pulling out from the lane they want to rejoin - using the left lane to jump the queue.
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