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30-08-2014, 11:23 PM | #31 | ||
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I have it from a very good source that muir has some very factual advice to the current state of the aftermarket industry, this will come out in time, he will have a lot more of an idea of what is going on, more than most people will know about, hopefully he responds the correct way and it is received,
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31-08-2014, 03:38 PM | #32 | ||
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Ricky Muir handled the drive interview well. He used measured responses that articulated where he is at after his short term in office. Given the recent job Willesee did on him he had every right to be a little measured with his answers.
What would you have preferred? A lot of lies to try a pretence at a cover up. We've all heard that before, usually from mainstream parties. He has already learnt a lot. He has already learnt that a media skewed to mainstream ideas will try to ruin any chance of him making any difference during his term in office. Anyone who thinks that the government alone runs this country need their heads read. The mainstream media has the power, and uses it very regularly to ruin the chances of anyone who doesn't fit their idea of right. Ricky Muir going it alone "impossible". As to Ricky being inarticulate when it comes to public speaking it reminds me of Pauline Hanson and her debut in politics. Her understanding of anything political and her prowess as a public speaker was absolutely woeful to the point where she was branded the Oxley Moron but if you hear her now she is a very effective public speaker. The point is that it takes time to come up to speed when you are thrown in at the deep end and with media scrutiny what it is today it is the wise one who does it carefully! And to those who bring up his salary and say "I'm not jealous but". Well that speaks for itself! By the way I am a mainstream died in the wool car enthusiast and have been for a lot of years and I wouldn't have given any more correct answers than Ricky Muir did in the quiz. There seems to be a lot of forum members who are unable to differentiate between the serious part of the interview and the fun quiz at the end.
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If I was his boss he'd be GONE as he's clearly not passionate or even interested in his job. I know nothing about him or what he's done...but if he's supposed to be all things motoring then...... |
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31-08-2014, 09:03 PM | #34 | ||
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what a load of crap!
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01-09-2014, 07:51 AM | #36 | ||
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he is an ordinary bloke thrust into the limelight, he is new to fame, he got burnt, he is sceptical of the media, wouldn't you be?
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01-09-2014, 07:52 AM | #37 | ||
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it is not his fault the electoral system is ******
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01-09-2014, 03:32 PM | #38 | |||
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01-09-2014, 03:56 PM | #40 | ||
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I find it funny how we have an average joe manage to find himself in with the big boys where he had more chance of being struck by lightning, and everyone here is trying to put him down.
Would you rather the slick mainstream media backed professional politician who is slippery as an oil slick on an iceberg representing your "enthusiast" group instead? Or someone like us representing the group who is a normal person not someone who worked in law, then went into politics, leader of a union or in some cases people who went to uni and then right into politics like one particular person in Canberra. Plenty of criticism but not many people put their hands up to do the job, just lots of people saying how he is doing it wrong. The people here flinging mud, are you even members of AMEP? Remember Ricky Muir is going to be voting on issues that the majority of the time will have NOTHING to do with "motoring" but will effect all of us average people. I'd like to see how the people flinging mud here would stand up to the experienced journalists who tore Ricky Muir apart publically. You might be able to answer the motoring quiz at the end but they'll get you on something else and make you look like a douche. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 01-09-2014 at 04:04 PM. |
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01-09-2014, 04:20 PM | #41 | ||
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None of that matters, he's an Enthusiast who lives in Australia, representing Australian Motoring Enthusiasts and cant tell us Holden make the VF Commodore or that Frosty won Bathurst.
That's like having a Plumber who cant use a plunger or a carpenter that cant measure a piece of timber. C'mon, no ones expecting him to have a grasp of main stream politics, but if asked basic questions that 99% of car dudes would know, I'd expect him to have something. If you stood in the middle of the MCG on GF day infront of 90k people with a microphone in your hand and a camera in your face and asked you what model Commodore they make or who won Bathurst could YOU answer me? |
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01-09-2014, 04:27 PM | #42 | |||
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I couldn't tell you about Bathurst because I don't follow motorsport as I find it and all other sports boring so I don't follow them. Who cares, Australia and his job don't revolve around Bathurst or what model car is rolling out of Holden's factory at the time. |
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01-09-2014, 04:40 PM | #43 | |||
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You cant just go through a term in office saying nothing because a journo made you look bad once. If his antics are representative of Enthusiasts, then he is doing more harm than good im afraid. |
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01-09-2014, 04:56 PM | #44 | ||
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That this guy is the motoring enthusiast senator and doesn't know the current model of car we make in Australia- at a time when the industry is collapsing- is disgusting. It just tells me he hasn't taken the time to get up to speed on the industry he's meant to specialise in- and given that he's had since 2013 to think about this stuff, it's really disappointing. Let's face it, if he took even the slightest interest in the local industry he'd know what a VF Commodore is. You'd think someone staring at $200k per annum to supposedly represent motoring enthusiasts might hop onto Google for a few hours.
Plenty of people predicted last year that he'd just cruise through his term and his lack of basic knowledge combined with the fact that he said he's in no rush to do anything because he's got the job for six years tells me that those people might be on to something. My main concern is that this guy makes car enthusiasts look even worse than they currently do, as if the poo fights, racist memes on his Facebook page and constant turmoil within AMEP haven't already set the tone. |
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01-09-2014, 04:58 PM | #45 | ||
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RE: Ricky Muir and the quiz questions..... I wonder how many of our current Transport Ministers (State and Federal) would have known the correct answers.
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01-09-2014, 04:59 PM | #46 | ||
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No-one could honestly believe Ricky Muir should be a polished statesmen but he has accepted a role under a banner that represents the Australian Motoring Enthusiasts.
This is his own choice and as politics is not for the faint hearted he must stand up and accept the good with the bad. Muir while in the Senate is now a reflection of all motoring enthusiasts in the eyes of the broader community. A community that often can’t distinguish true enthusiasts from hoons and burn-out bogans. You’d want to hope he gives a positive representation in that role to strengthen the true enthusiast’s entitlement for a fair go and not have them continuously labelled with the small bad element that exists in the car scene and therefore punished because of them. Like it or not, his success or failure in pulling this off will have repercussions for the reputation of motoring enthusiasts for many years to come. Here’s hoping he does well, so far he’s been seen as a bit of a joke (along with his PUP companions) in the eyes of the general public and that doesn’t reflect well on car enthusiasts. |
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I want to see him in a live interview before I conclude he is fit for the job.
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01-09-2014, 05:01 PM | #48 | ||
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My guess is given what's happening in the industry, most of them would know what a VF Commodore is. But they didn't win votes by being marketed to the public as motoring enthusiasts so you could (maybe) forgive them for not knowing what a 351 GT is.
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01-09-2014, 05:08 PM | #49 | ||
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why can't we criticise? if a sparky does a rubbish job on my house i let him know even though i couldn't do that job.
same if i do a bad job hanging a door i can expect to hear it from a school teacher who wouldn't know where to start. its the same principle with him. i also don't think that its too hard to ask that he knows the current commodore is a vf. |
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01-09-2014, 05:23 PM | #51 | |||
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I'm beginning to think that Ricky is your uncle or something. |
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01-09-2014, 05:28 PM | #52 | ||
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I'm not am AMEP member, nor would I have voted for them and there is no relation, I just see it that there are a lot of people wanting to put the boot in without a good reason really.
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01-09-2014, 05:30 PM | #53 | ||
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The fact he ran on a motoring enthusiast platform to start with means win, Lose or draw he should at least be au fait with the subject. I’ll say it again, anyone who is an enthusiast can talk everyone else to sleep when it comes to their pet enthusiast subject. Muir is an oddity in that he has little to say on his. And another thing. If the Abbott Government needs the PUP Senators to help get its legislation through, why isn’t Muir using this power to trade off and benefit motoring issues. |
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Seeing as a lot of the criticism here is directed towards him not knowing what the current model Commodore is called.
As this is a Ford Forum and Commodore being a direct competitor to the Falcon this point is bound to be jumped on. I wonder if the critics here would be so harsh if he was asked to name the current model designation for Mazda/Hyundai/Honda/Toyota ? For that matter how many here could.........Without Googling!.
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01-09-2014, 06:14 PM | #57 | ||
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I can't wait till the next election (sarc). Ricky has already inspired countless new bogans to try their luck at the lottery system which is masquerading as a democratic electoral system.
Suck it up because the bogan tribe is mobilising, and when it all turns to poo, remember, some of us did warn you. Should just fast track the process and be the first to register the BPoA, Bogan Party of Australia - sadly they would get many many many votes |
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01-09-2014, 06:23 PM | #58 | ||
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Todays offering of mediocrity from the Ricky knockers basically want him to be an expert at motoring trivia lol!
One bloke compares his house wired by an electrician to be a good comparision to Ricky! How about we put it into correct perspective for him. Ricky has been there for a few months. The question is would you have your house wired by an electrical apprentice with a few months experience and expect a great result? That is a more balanced comparison! Other knockers get childish and ask if people who are willing to give him a fair go are his relatives etc. You think Ricky sounds like a moron? You lot should take a hard look at what you are posting when you dish out that crap. If you want to make yourself look stupid you are doing a fair job of it. That stuff is usually resorted to by children when they can't think of something worthwhile to say. Another post refers to Ricky going through his term of office and not saying anything. To this post I say it hasn't happened yet. His term of office that is! Criticizing some thing that is yet to happen is weird! There is nothing to criticize. Unless you have a crystal ball and can see the future. Oh! and if you do have one would you be good enough to put next weeks winning lotto numbers up for us so that we can all buy tickets. lol!
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01-09-2014, 06:59 PM | #59 | |||
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I also wouldn't blanket attack members' posting styles as "mediocrity" because they don't agree with you. I respect Damo, the uncle Ricky reference was clearly there to demonstrate that while we may disagree, it's not that serious. So I'd appreciate it if you stopped referring to members as mediocre, knockers, stupid, children etc. I also think that this thread is beginning to cross into shaky territory in regards to politics, which is banned from discussion in the site terms and conditions. |
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01-09-2014, 07:01 PM | #60 | ||
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[QUOTE=noflac52;5201970]Another post refers to Ricky going through his term of office and not saying anything. To this post I say it hasn't happened yet. His term of office that is![QUOTE]
I'm not sure about that, his own page says he started on 1/7/14 http://www.aph.gov.au/Senators_and_M...an?MPID=250024 cheers, Maka
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