New Mustang Review

[MAGPIE]

What cracks me up is Falcon owners lecturing on interior quality, thats FAF !

[DJM83]

Had a look at a V8 fastback at the local dealer a few weeks back. Fit and finish looked good to me. IMO its a lot of car for just shy of 60k or there abouts. Its not what id chose (As much as i like it)

[mick74GT]

Originally Posted by MAGPIE

What cracks me up is Falcon owners lecturing on interior quality, thats FAF !

yep its ridiculous! I don't understand the hate either

[Shonky.]

Originally Posted by Moby Vic

Yes. Because that's the truth. Cost is an object for most buyers. Value for money matters.

The price is available for all readers to know whether for them the cheap interior rules it out at that price point, or still a bargain. Why would you not want an objective article that describes it accurately.

Love that people don't want to be informed about what their favourite car is like, they just want to read praise whether it's baseless or not

[MAGPIE]

Originally Posted by tempted

Because the fit, finish and material quality in the Mustang make the Falcon feel like you're sitting in a Bentley.

Your Falcons were obviously not Australian built like mine were then, cause they were rubbish. Although I still loved them at the time and they didn't make me hate on other cars.

[Shonky.]

Originally Posted by Polyal

It seems FB comments are slowly making there way to this forums.

The sentiment reminds me more of a one eyed single make forum

Skyline and Commodore forums have always been bad, but some of the threads here give them a red hot go in terms of lacking objectivity

[blakef6]

Originally Posted by Shonky.

The sentiment reminds me more of a one eyed single make forum

Skyline and Commodore forums have always been bad, but some of the threads here give them a red hot go in terms of lacking objectivity

Bingo! Express an opinion other than Ford is the greatest thing ever, and you're an idiot apparently.

The thing is, you can still like Ford, and at the same time you can also be critical of them and even appreciate other cars too

[FairmontGS]

Originally Posted by tempted

Because the fit, finish and material quality in the Mustang make the Falcon feel like you're sitting in a Bentley.

Rubbish - had 3 different Mustangs whilst working stateside and fit and finish was similar to Oz Falcon. FG interior is nothing to hold up as a standard.

[GTP534]

Originally Posted by tempted

Because the fit, finish and material quality in the Mustang make the Falcon feel like you're sitting in a Bentley.

I think your favourite colour must be green.

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by blakef6

yep. There are better cars out there for 60k they aren't cheap American built crap

Like what, seriously who sells a V8 2 door coupe/convertible in Australia with the same performance and same price? I'm too tired to look up a buyers guide

Edit: just searched on Carsales using filters for new, V8, 2 door, coupe, no price limit and ironically Mustang didn't come up but the cheapest car was a Lexus RCF auto at $145K ...and if I remove coupe I get a billion SS/HSV utes.and if anyone cares the most expensive with a price listed was a 2015 Ferrari 458 Spider at $645K

Then again if I click on Ford it then brings up all the Mustangs.

[Joe5619]

My concern with the interior is the cup holders!!! They clearly haven't swap them around with the LHD models. I want a manual & I have Falcon now & I thought the Falcon was bad in this regards, the Mustang looks worse

[Thaddeus]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

Like what, seriously who sells a V8 2 door coupe/convertible in Australia with the same performance and same price? I'm too tired to look up a buyers guide

Edit: just searched on Carsales using filters for new, V8, 2 door, coupe, no price limit and ironically Mustang didn't come up but the cheapest car was a Lexus RCF auto at $145K ...and if I remove coupe I get a billion SS/HSV utes.and if anyone cares the most expensive with a price listed was a 2015 Ferrari 458 Spider at $645K

Then again if I click on Ford it then brings up all the Mustangs.

To be fair, he said better cars for 60k, not better v8s, there are better sports cars for the money, but i understand a lot of older folks will think mustangs are cool, so each to their own

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by Polyal

This! It is the worlds most affordable V8 Coupe..end of story...journo's are rubbish at adding context to their crap blogs.

Its like the V8 version of the GT86.

Exactly. People want everything, but don't want to pay for it.

If the Mustang was more expensive, but had a better interior, everyone would be complaining that it's to expensive.

If you want a V8 coupe with a luxury interior, buy a 10 year old Euro for double the price of the Mustang.

[mik]

Anyone expecting to get a all the bells and whistles of an up spec super refined limo i think are deluding themselves ,
from what i can see the mustang was not intended to be going against euro`s with snazzy interiors with all the bells and whistles , .......... plain and simple its a good handling cool looking good performing retro cruiser/muscle car with a nice symphony coming from the nice little v8 engine ........or the other one :(......... seriously ....cup holders ...... who gives a toss !

any color you want ...

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/like/4007...s=true&viphx=1

[xr6turboford]

I like the way people come on here and pick the crap out of the interior and design but did a little research would know the interior design is based on the 1965 Mustang. If you don't like it don't buy it please don't come on a Ford forum and consistently bag out Ford products because I for one don't give a Sh...

[XR6VCT]

Personally I don't think there is much difference overall between the quality of the Falcon and the Mustang. I've spent the past the past 15 years driving Falcons (AUII XR6VCT, BA XR6, BAII XR6 Turbo, FG XR50 Turbo) and love them. I've had my Mustang for a month and also love it.

To me the interior of the Mustang feels better than the FG. Some of that is because it feels fresher and more modern, but generally, the materials overall seem on par if not better than the Falcon. I doubt anyone coming out of a Falcon or something similar will feel disappointed. Unfortunately it's a shame Ford didn't fit the premier interior to the RHD export cars as that would have given us the soft touch door plastics and stitched dashboard. Such is life though...

Panel fit seems to be the biggest quality issue for the Mustang. While i'm happy with mine there are a couple of gaps that aren't perfect. No doubt this is an issue with the Mustang and you need to check the car very carefully before accepting delivery. I don't recall ever having to worry about this with any of my Falcons.

Mechanically each one of my Falcons had an issue that needed to be fixed under warranty. The AUII had a fuel surging issue, the BA needed a differential replaced and the front disks warped numerous times, the BAII leaked every time it rained and wasn't parked on perfectly flat ground, and, the FG also had to have the differential replaced and did a number of diff bushes. Sure each one of these issues got fixed but each one seemed to require a fight with the Ford dealer to get it fixed. Will see how the Mustang holds up on this front.

[Windsor220]

I dont think any Amercian built car has had a decent interior ever so its not unexpected.

[Moby Vic]

Originally Posted by Shonky.

The price is available for all readers to know whether for them the cheap interior rules it out at that price point, or still a bargain. Why would you not want an objective article that describes it accurately.

Love that people don't want to be informed about what their favourite car is like, they just want to read praise whether it's baseless or not

You seem to have missed the point of my post.

I've got no problem with someone saying the Mustang interior looks cheap, as long as they acknowledge why it looks that way. First, cheap is relative, but Ford puts its money into engine, suspension, and brakes on the Mustang. That's why it offers BMW performance at a Ford price.

But I still don't understand (possibly because I'm a cheap American) the obsession with dashboard plastics in a performance car. When I'm driving I don't longingly gaze at or lovingly caress the dash. I hit the gas, shift the gears, turn the wheel, and apply the brakes.

[Shonky.]

I think we're on a similar page, and I have found the same with Aus built Fords.

I like where they spend their money on the car vs say Holden. Put them beside each other and it shines through everywhere. Holden have big bling wheels, big rear brake calipers, fancy interior control/entertainment systems, whereas Ford have modest stuff here and invest it in tuff motors, slick autos etc instead.

But when I read a review that says the GT is taxi spec inside for eg I just smile and nod and say to myself, it sure has, thats why we got a $20M engine, cause its basically the same as a yellow cab inside.

I don't get all bent out of shape and push back saying thats crap its opulent inside and anyone who says otherwise is on crack

Its a pov car with a stonking driveline, thats why I bought it, and thats how it should be reviewed by anyone who is at all realistic

[fordomatic]

Originally Posted by Moby Vic

You seem to have missed the point of my post.

I've got no problem with someone saying the Mustang interior looks cheap, as long as they acknowledge why it looks that way. First, cheap is relative, but Ford puts its money into engine, suspension, and brakes on the Mustang. That's why it offers BMW performance at a Ford price.

But I still don't understand (possibly because I'm a cheap American) the obsession with dashboard plastics in a performance car. When I'm driving I don't longingly gaze at or lovingly caress the dash. I hit the gas, shift the gears, turn the wheel, and apply the brakes.

This, end thread

[Express]

I like nice interiors.

A hot driveline and a lush interior is the perfect combo for me.

I like bear boned cars as well where engine performance and handling is the main criteria.

I don’t think there is any problem with the reviewer pointing out which category the Mustang falls in as the review is written for everyone to read and not just enthusiasts.

It’s a new take on an old muscle car and the interior is ordinary, so what.

If people who are used to buying Aussie built cars decide they don’t want one because of the interior then all I can say is they didn’t really want one to start with.

The first time I see one on the road I’m going to hang my head out the window and yell, I don't like the interior and I’m sure the driver is going to care.

[MAGPIE]

Originally Posted by Shonky.

I don't get all bent out of shape and push back saying thats crap its opulent inside and anyone who says otherwise is on crack

Nobody is getting bent out of shape, most people I think are just sick of a vocal minority harping on about it like it's the end of the world.

Most people on this forum have still not even seen the new Mustang in person yet they have these "holier than thou" attitudes on it's interior.

Like I said Falcon owners are the last ones to be slinging mud over car interiors.

[stevefreestyle]

A slightly more enthusiastic review here:


"I am Mustang....Heart, Spirit & Soul" ...what ...no mention of "plastic"...?

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/629...pirit-and-soul

[Joe5619]

Originally Posted by tempted

It's common knowledge that the interior is retro styled, but what was deemed modern in 1965 doesn't exactly appeal to me in a 2016 vehicle.
A bigger gripe I have is the quality of the plastics. The plastics have the texture of 10 grit sandpaper ffs. Nobody ever said that the Mustang should have a Euro-like quality interior, but at least something decent enough to match the price tag. I haven't seen plastics this bad in even a $15k econo car.

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That is a nice picture of the cup holders!!! They look pretty deep, which might make them better than the Falcon, even though they aren't in the nicest place? I know cup holders seems like the dumbest thing to complain about, but it annoys me in the Falcon I have now.


I actually think the dash looks pretty good, I don't understand what people are complaining about..

[Thaddeus]

I am not sure why people care what car reviews say? You know everything they are going to say.. You have to expect them to point out the bad points but you should expect it when you already know you a buying a bogans Ferrari. Just enjoy your car

[wagnman]

Judging by what i saw on a recent trip to california camaros are about 4 times more popular than mustangs for some unknown reason. They were everywhere. I tried to hire a mustang but none of the rental companies had one so ended up with a v6 rs camaro. The one day drive i did in the camaro was pure torture for me as im 195cm tall and had to squeeze myself into it. It had less room than the mini metro i owned in the UK. The camaro was cheaply made inside the same as most US cars but the v6 was suprisingly sweet and sounded great while the car handled realy well.
Why amd i saying all this? I honestly wouldnt be suprised at all if holden releases the camaro here and it similarly outsells the mustang here as it seems to do in the states.
FORD has really just shat on its fans yet again with the mustang.
Its an awesome car but they are feeding us watered down basic models with fun stuff removed.
If they were serious they would have come in hard with the whole range of mustangs and also brought in access to the ford performance gear thats available stateside.
I just dont think ford australia really gives a dam about large perfirmance cars anymore and the only true performance options in their range will end up being the fiesta and focus turbos.
Sure youll be able to spend a truck load of cash on your aussie mustang and make it into a beast but these early offerings are limp.

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[Thaddeus]

Originally Posted by wagnman

I just dont think ford australia really gives a dam about large perfirmance cars anymore and the only true performance options in their range will end up being the fiesta and focus turbos.


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The problem, no one really gives a dam about large cars anymore. The market is shifting away from them. More people are moving towards turbo charged 4 cylinders and with good reason. A turbo charged AWD focus that would dust the mustang from a standing start and also be able to actually turn corners? Game over for the larger performance car

[wagnman]

Totally agree thaddeus

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[AussieCJ7]

Originally Posted by Thaddeus

The problem, no one really gives a dam about large cars anymore. The market is shifting away from them. More people are moving towards turbo charged 4 cylinders and with good reason. A turbo charged AWD focus that would dust the mustang from a standing start and also be able to actually turn corners? Game over for the larger performance car

Not everyone has the luxury of a performance car that only takes one passenger in comfort some need dual purpose to carry 5 people and have some fun.

What you are saying is complete contradiction to the fact sales in the large car market have shift more to performance models, what we are seeing is actually more due to shift in fleet buyers and now private buyers make up the majority of larger car sales, I would suspect if someone dug into it that market size prob has not shifted as much as the media makes out, cause the stats have always been affected by fleet buyers

Also find it interesting the media reporting no one wants big cars yet every small car model has grown substantially in size over the last 10 years

[fordwood]

Hi,

I am hoping someone can shed some light on the introduction of SYNC3 (which will soon feature Apple Car Play and AndroidAuto) into Australian Mustangs. SYNC3 is already standard on the 2016 American built Mustang but I am seeking confirmation that Australia will be getting it soon as well?

Here is the latest article I could find on the subject:
http://www.caradvice.com.au/358498/f...ralia-in-2017/