Holden V8 sportscar not ‘guaranteed’ as HSV products questioned

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by Chopped

Holden turns its back on bogans

Where do the bogans go now?

Ford and Holden had no problem selling heaps of performance sedans to the faithful "bogans". Now they don't want to know them.

The real truth is that bogans tend to buy second hand, so how can a brand protect against that, they can't.

Funny you should say that, around here, it was the bogan Aussies who drove Fords. crim tech school types.

[Mercury Bullet]

Originally Posted by lra

Are you referring to a certain car insurance advert which is 'not going to Broken Hill'. Maybe swap the Merc for a 'non-Holden' Holden.

Way back in my memory is a TV advert for a Commodore ute doing circle work to the strains of AccaDacca 'Back in Black". How politically incorrect and bogan was that.
To quote Richie ... 'Simply marvellous'

Haha, Richie should have done car ads.

I was thinking more Priscilla, Queen of the Desert. With your car turning transvestite and all.

[roddy1960]

G'day Looks like there'll be a lot of old V8 Commodores held together with anything that works for a couple of decades yet then.
This is really sad ..I thought at the time when Ford announced closure that we were sold up the garden path..Never thought much of Holden's situation initially but Ford at least already had gone global with Mustang. Let's hope we're wrong but it may not be as easy for GMH. Too much history of V8's to not have a sports goer that's for sure..
To prove my point , a couple of weeks ago at our local car show attended by about 320 exhibits , among a decent contingent of Fords were about 10 new Mustangs but only one single FGX , although it was an XR6 Sprint..They're all over the place even in Tassie.. One of the new Mustang owners I yacked to at length told me that every day around Hobart now he'll spot a fellow pony but hardly ever sees an FGX..
Camaro , I have no doubt now would be something like the same IF at some stage they got here . NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER just on the strength of Mustang sales.
At the very end of this great little video shot very early before the wind got too much for the drone there is a photo after the Mustang contingent arrived .
All beaut , all reasonably local , never thought that it'd happen so quick but it has

.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuDj...ature=youtu.be
Cheers Rod..

[roddy1960]

G'day ..A few of the 10 or so Mustangs that were at our Car Show
and
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C'mon GM , I hope there's a way somehow to let the loyal Red Lion fans be able to buy something like these at some stage. Such a travesty if not.
Not all of the Holden crew will be happy with or want poxy SUV's and piddley little runabouts..
Cheers Rod..

[Hawkeye84]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Camaro has nowhere near the global appeal of the Mustang. Not even close. Most of the world's population know what a Mustang is but you can't say that about the Camaro.

According to what? Where did you get this information from?

Quick search on Google Trends though, shows that since 2004 the Global search trends for Camaro vs Mustang have narrowed. And if you look at the regions globally, those countries who have searched for Mustang pretty much searched for Camaro...so the awareness/appeal is there.....globally

https://trends.google.com/trends/exp...,%2Fm%2F01j25p

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye84

According to what? Where did you get this information from?

Quick search on Google Trends though, shows that since 2004 the Global search trends for Camaro vs Mustang have narrowed. And if you look at the regions globally, those countries who have searched for Mustang pretty much searched for Camaro...so the awareness/appeal is there.....globally

https://trends.google.com/trends/exp...,%2Fm%2F01j25p

Yep lots of people in Syria, Iraq, and Brazil googling Camaro

The difference globally is about double too for Mustang.

[aussie muscle]

Originally Posted by Chopped

I think if Ford can sell Mustang globally and have a case for RHD, then there is no reason why GM can't do the same with the Camaro (and possibly Corvette).

My guess is Ford wanted mustang in UK and Japan, so australia was 'just lucky' to get it.

I think HSV will probably find more customers with hot Colorados than anything else in Holden's line up. Hot Hatch Astra?

[malazn mafia]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Who didn't see this coming. GM don't have the numbers to build anything low volume in rhd. The exact reason the Camaro was never build in rhd for the current gen.

They binned Zeta after just one generation and did a clean sheet design. Either shows how 'good' the 1 billion dollar baby was, or the actual contempt the yanks have for anything not made by them.

[malazn mafia]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye84

According to what? Where did you get this information from?

Quick search on Google Trends though, shows that since 2004 the Global search trends for Camaro vs Mustang have narrowed. And if you look at the regions globally, those countries who have searched for Mustang pretty much searched for Camaro...so the awareness/appeal is there.....globally

https://trends.google.com/trends/exp...,%2Fm%2F01j25p

Any non car person will know mustang and little red corvette. I'm sure a few may be a bit iffy with Camaro and may even mistake it for Camry..

[lra]

Originally Posted by malazn mafia

Either shows how 'good' the 1 billion dollar baby was, or the actual contempt the yanks have for anything not made by them.

Definitely a case of yanks being shown how to do things, which never goes down well.
That's why they are the world champions in baseball, gridiron and professional wrestling. And action men like Tom Cruise, Bruce Willis, Chuck Norris and Sly Stallone to save the world.

[Hawkeye84]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

Yep lots of people in Syria, Iraq, and Brazil googling Camaro

The difference globally is about double too for Mustang.

Yes, the same countries you mentioned above also ranked highly for Mustang...

So the global appeal is there then....isn't that what we were talking about?

[Kieron]

Originally Posted by lra

Definitely a case of yanks being shown how to do things, which never goes down well.
That's why they are the world champions in baseball, gridiron and professional wrestling. And action men like Tom Cruise, Bruce Willis, Chuck Norris and Sly Stallone to save the world.

I'm not sure that's the case Ira. The Zeta platform was slated for use on a number of large GM models, most of which got cancelled due to model rationalisation as a result of the GFC. Part of the rationalisation meant platforms across different sizes have commonality and if memory serves, the Zeta platform only shared commonality with one GM/Cadillac platform which was deemed to big and/or heavy so out came the pencil and paper again to make a lighter, more compact and flexible platform.

Personally, I reckon GM were in a mess platform wise during the GFC era.

They also gave us Clint... ;-)