G6E turbo or n/a?

[Dr Smith]

My biggest two regrets in life, well ok... the last ten years are....not buying the apartment across the hall from where my wife (girlfriend back then) lived as it doubled in price in 2.5 years...the second..selling my G6ET.

[EF ECTIV]

My G6ET makes the daily 45-60 each way trip to work and back bareable...

Unbelievable cars for the price... other thing to consider it the likely extra
value of the turbo when it comes time for you to sell...

[the_scotsman]

I have a 1 hour / 85km trip to work, so I'm doing around 900km a week.

Hence why I bought the FGX G6ET

It makes light work of the journey. Highway cruising it's good on fuel, but has the guts to overtake anything it needs to.

I bought it with 11,000km on it 15 months ago, it's got 63,000 on it now....I hate putting so much mileage on a great car like this....but I guess that's what they're for

Those saying 95 minimum...not sure if pre-FGX is different, but the FGX manual states 95 can be used, but it will affect performance and economy, and they advise 98 be used. I mean come on, for the few extra cents per litre it costs, why skimp on it?

I love my G6ET....owned 5 Falcons (EA S Pac, EF Fairmont Ghia, EL XR6, BF II Fairmont Ghia, FGX G6ET), this is my first turbo. And I dare say I won't ever own a non-turbo again....if I do it'll only be a V8

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by the_scotsman

Those saying 95 minimum...not sure if pre-FGX is different, but the FGX manual states 95 can be used, but it will affect performance and economy, and they advise 98 be used. I mean come on, for the few extra cents per litre it costs, why skimp on it?

Maybe go check your manual. 95 is the minimum reccomended. 91 has a performance loss. 98 is optimum performance

[the_scotsman]

Originally Posted by vztrt

Maybe go check your manual. 95 is the minimum reccomended. 91 has a performance loss. 98 is optimum performance

Ah yes, that's right it does say 91 has the performance loss, as you'd expect.

But if 98 is "optimal", then there's also going to be a difference in performance between 95 and 98. Going tight **** and running 95 for the sake of a few dollars per 68l tank seems silly to me, when you've spent hard earned dollars on such a good car.

[GO FURTHER]

Originally Posted by vztrt

Maybe go check your manual. 95 is the minimum reccomended. 91 has a performance loss. 98 is optimum performance

.... And the strangest part is that Ford state the 270KW at the fly is based on RON 95.

Why not give the KW rating at 98 if that is optimum performance?

[Mechan1k]

Originally Posted by GO FURTHER

.... And the strangest part is that Ford state the 270KW at the fly is based on RON 95.

Why not give the KW rating at 98 if that is optimum performance?

This is the same with the N/A cars as well from my understanding ... the power/torque figures are meant to be more again on 98.

At least they don't falsify their information like other car makers and use over-inflated numbers

[g650]

So just to clarify, going non turbo means you can justify keeping the TE50..?

I'd go the NA if that were the case, and look forward to the more fun drive on the weekends like you said.

The turbo will push you back in the seat for sure, but won't be as fun as a cable throttle stick shift V8 in a lighter body... Also won't sound anywhere near as good.

Avoiding the lower profiles and turbo suspension gets you a better daily ride in a NA too.

[TICKFORD220]

Only problem with a turbo is that the power gets old after a few weeks/months and you need to spend a heap of cash to make them faster... then that power gets boring so a 15-20 grand car costs 30g before you know it lol,if your happy to do that buy a turbo,they are fun.
I ended up selling my g6et and bought a manual s3 au xr8,its slower but sounds a lot better and is a lot more fun to drive!!!

[ebv8]

go the eco lpi if you are worried about fuel use
198kw and cheap to run, only issue is finding somewhere to fill up

my daily is an FG XT egas, best car for road tripping but i must sort my fill up locations before i head off. the stock XT was boring so its now got full leather XR trim and full XR suspension, not bad for $3000 all up

[raised by monkeys]

Originally Posted by Rallye Sport

Just taken on a new job that involves a 45min drive each way so decided to buy something to make it a little easier, looking at FG G6E.

Where are you located?

Although my circumstances are not the same, I recently sold my F6 ute for baby duties and not wanting to ruin waste an FPV for daily duties. I looked at G6Et's but especially the MkII value is still pretty high. G6Et's will not hold value, but yet have the punch for highway use and putting around town.

I ended up contacting Heinrichs who I use for tuning and parts. I paid cash for a MkII G6Et with higher than average kms because it ad been used up and down the freeways in Adelaide, but recently had a built motor - but I paid well under market value. Not had any issues besides the typical breakdown of bushes in the suspension and driveline components.

If youre in Adelaide, Bruce is always and wheeling and dealing building, repairing and selling cars. I did have the opportunity to buy a mkII fg xr6t with all FGXt interior and running gear with 50,000kms for 20k from him, but wasn't in the right place at the right time.

[Big_Daz]

You gotta get the G6E Turbo... I still miss (and regret selling) my FG XR6T which I bought Brand new in 2009....

These turbo Barra's are great in that when you are just commuting, you can pretty much drive them off boost and it behaves almost like an NA one with Economy that's actually pretty good... But when the mood strikes and you want to have some fun, that engine goes into Mr Hyde mode and its a totally different animal....

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by Mechan1k

This is the same with the N/A cars as well from my understanding ... the power/torque figures are meant to be more again on 98.

At least they don't falsify their information like other car makers and use over-inflated numbers

Correct. The quoted power figures are from 95ron.

[roddy1960]

Horses for courses quite literally. I would love a XR6T because I have been in one recently..Boy that was amazing .All three times I've experienced (never driven though yet) a Falcon Turbo it's been fantastic.

But that aside.

I own a N/A XR6 FG though and I can honestly say it's an absolute joy to drive. It's quick enough most of the time , it's bloody economical enough most of the time and our crappy roads that I drive most of the time are eaten up by my N/A . XR 6 easily.. For me it's an all round good choice but...........
Geez a nice turbo would be not essential or absolutely needed , just very very desirable to say the least. Maybe one day..

[GO FURTHER]

Why go turbo...

The turbo feels like you are driving with 2 x NA’s under the bonnet when mildly tuned

FG turbo ... Ford publicly under rates them at 270 KWs at the fly to keep the V8 boys happy, but they are more like 300 KWs in reality.

They pull on average 240 rwkws on the dyno stock.
(Mine pulled 249 with airbox and cat back before tune).

Spend another $2,000 on a tune and injectors and you can add another 40 to 50 rwkws easy.

So you now have 280 to 300 rwkws.

FG NA .... 195 KWs at the fly... A little more on 98.... Maybe 205.
Stock on the dyno they pull between 140 - 160 rwkws.

Turbo .... Twice the power of an NA at the rears.... That is why they are so exciting to drive.

[Mercury Bullet]

Originally Posted by vztrt

Correct. The quoted power figures are from 95ron.

Stretching my memory here and maybe you can add.

I seem to recall that the na motors were kept under 200kw for a reason.
I can't remember what that reason was though, I'm thinking possible p plate limitations or a tax that Ford wanted to avoid. Like the alcohol tax in Australia where our spirits are mostly 37% to get them under a tax cut off.

Keep in mind this was 2007 legislation.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet

Stretching my memory here and maybe you can add.

I seem to recall that the na motors were kept under 200kw for a reason.
I can't remember what that reason was though, I'm thinking possible p plate limitations or a tax that Ford wanted to avoid. Like the alcohol tax in Australia where our spirits are mostly 37% to get them under a tax cut off.

Keep in mind this was 2007 legislation.

I think there was a 200kw limit for P platers in some states. Thats why the LPI was 198kw when it was supposed to be 210. And even that 210 was detuned. The first test engines made even more but the NA rear ends didn't like it, and fitting the turbo rear ends was more expensive.

[Swordie]

NA 6 will have enough grunt.

With lots of power it can get you into and out of trouble. Depends how you use it.

I have driven FG X Turbo 6. It is very easy to go quick. Plenty enough for me.

Torque comes in handy when doing lots of driving. Makes the experience more effortless.

XR6T is a future classic.

[g650]

Originally Posted by GO FURTHER

Why go turbo...

The turbo feels like you are driving with 2 x NA’s under the bonnet when mildly tuned

FG turbo ... Ford publicly under rates them at 270 KWs at the fly to keep the V8 boys happy, but they are more like 300 KWs in reality.

They pull on average 240 rwkws on the dyno stock.
(Mine pulled 249 with airbox and cat back before tune).

Spend another $2,000 on a tune and injectors and you can add another 40 to 50 rwkws easy.

So you now have 280 to 300 rwkws.

FG NA .... 195 KWs at the fly... A little more on 98.... Maybe 205.
Stock on the dyno they pull between 140 - 160 rwkws.

Turbo .... Twice the power of an NA at the rears.... That is why they are so exciting to drive.

Did not realise the rwkw difference was that much... If I looked for a FG again and good turbos were in my budget, it would be a no brainer.

Maybe the best argument for the NAs now is you can get one with the ZF for under 10k, and if a G6E almost be guaranteed it was looked after.

[attilla]

any one know how to remove window washer reservoir bottle from g6eturbo? all help is appreciated

[Seasoned One]

remove linear passenger wheel cover, I think 3 screws (scrivets) and a couple of push in clips, access is then enough to unclog wiring and prise pump out.

[malazn mafia]

Turbo Barra is like Hot N Spicy KFC. Once you’ve sampled it, you can no longer stomach original recipe KFC