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View Poll Results: Which car has the worst Cardigan Car image problem?
Bentley/Rolls Royce 11 6.47%
Ford Fairmont 1 0.59%
Ford Fairlane/LTD 8 4.71%
Holden Berlina 2 1.18%
Honda Accord 1 0.59%
Misubishi Magna/Verada 9 5.29%
Toyota Avalon 69 40.59%
Toyota Camry 53 31.18%
Lexus ES 300 1 0.59%
Peugeot 206 2 1.18%
Hyundai Sonata/ Grandeur 11 6.47%
Honda Civic 2 1.18%
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Old 10-08-2005, 03:03 PM   #31
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Just can't go past the Avalon zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ooops, I've fallen asleep.
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Good topic. I voted Avalon, but Camry would come a close second. Toyota have a lot of work to do in their styling department. Maybe they should hire all the teenagers who designed the Sportivo concept. That has to be one of the only good looking Toyotas. I thought it was funny when Toyota bought out the current shape Camry, they were all excited about the styling. Now they can't wait till the next Camry. Also when they brought the current shape Camry out, they decided they were no longer going to paint them white in the ads. Instead they used their hero colour... beige. I think that says it all!

As long as it isn't like the new celica. argh. it's like an AU but worse
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Old 10-08-2005, 11:13 PM   #33
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i have to say first car i thought of as the grandpa special was the avalon, even though i rekon they are a well made super boring car
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Old 10-08-2005, 11:34 PM   #34
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As long as it isn't like the new celica. argh. it's like an AU but worse
Oh please, you drive an EA FFS, and your bagging AU's? I sure as hell know what 99.9% of the population would chose and it doesnt have CFI or 3 speed autos as an option.
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Oh please, you drive an EA FFS, ...... I sure as hell know what 99.9% of the population would chose .

That choice the public wants? Does it involve a spear gun, a barrel full of formaldehyde, and a disused bank vault?
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i voted camry but i think both camry and avalon are both as bad as each other..
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Oh please, you drive an EA FFS, and your bagging AU's? I sure as hell know what 99.9% of the population would chose and it doesnt have CFI or 3 speed autos as an option.
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My wife said we will NEVER have a car with fake plastic wood anywhere inside it......
I think only the Roller has real wood ?
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you have to admit though a v6 avalon is a nice car to drive.
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Oh please, you drive an EA FFS, and your bagging AU's? I sure as hell know what 99.9% of the population would chose and it doesnt have CFI or 3 speed autos as an option.
Woah, calm down, if you can't take a little bit of criticism then get off the internet. I didn't say the AU was a bad car, I just said that it look bad.
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Rob_o damn do you mean i can use MP3's in my car, never tried, going to try it tomorrow.

As for the Ford's they probably get no votes because we all love 'em to much, but you gotta admit the Fairmont has got some image problems.

What the???!!!

I drive a '78 fairmont and i am far too young to have a cardy!! The only reason that Fairies and LTD's register is because older people enjoy (and can afford) the extra comfort..........just venting my spleen!! out:
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Woah, calm down, if you can't take a little bit of criticism then get off the internet. I didn't say the AU was a bad car, I just said that it look bad.
And I just said that the EA was hardly compariable in any way. Of course, thats just my opinion. Maybe if you were intellegent enough to realise that everyone has different tastes and likes, that saying a particular model looks bad is so subjective that its going to almost certainly be defended. Beat way to avoid this (apart from not posting... but we can only wish for that) is to state it is your 'opinion'!

I personally love the look of the AU, as does a very large portion of the forums. Therefore stating it looks bad is just your 'opinion', it has little or no bearing on anyone elses reality. Just as I think that the anime crap in your avatar looks like childrens TV shows and that the EA is a shocker. Both of these are my 'opinion' and have no bearing on anyone elses reality.

You may find this post a little harsh Selekta but, you know what they say, if you can't take a little bit of criticism then get off the internet. :yeees:
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And I just said that the EA was hardly compariable in any way. Of course, thats just my opinion. Maybe if you were intellegent enough to realise that everyone has different tastes and likes, that saying a particular model looks bad is so subjective that its going to almost certainly be defended. Beat way to avoid this (apart from not posting... but we can only wish for that) is to state it is your 'opinion'!

I personally love the look of the AU, as does a very large portion of the forums. Therefore stating it looks bad is just your 'opinion', it has little or no bearing on anyone elses reality. Just as I think that the anime crap in your avatar looks like childrens TV shows and that the EA is a shocker. Both of these are my 'opinion' and have no bearing on anyone elses reality.

You may find this post a little harsh Selekta but, you know what they say, if you can't take a little bit of criticism then get off the internet. :yeees:
Eh? Your post wasn't harsh at all, You don't like EA's, that's fine with me, I never said that the AU was a bad car, I just said that generally, they are not suited to my taste. I am also more aiming that opinion at the Series 1 Fortes, with the hidious front grille.
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......... I am also more aiming that opinion at the Series 1 Fortes, with the hidious front grille.
It's not like your Malvern Star! pedalling backwards won't apply the brakes.

And its not so much the EA is ugly or bad, but at this stage of its service life it is now more accessible to the clueless. Not a comment on the Model or some of its owners, rather an observation.

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So you're saying that people who can't afford to buy later model falcons are of lesser intellect?
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So you're saying that people who can't afford to buy later model falcons are of lesser intellect?
No! If you'd bothered reading in between your bouncing about twerp like, you would have noticed I stated that the older models were more accessible to the lunatic fringes. I did not make any inferences now did i?
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No! If you'd bothered reading in between your bouncing about twerp like, you would have noticed I stated that the older models were more accessible to the lunatic fringes. I did not make any inferences now did i?
Nah, I'm pretty sure that you're implying that poorer people are of lesser intellect.
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No, he's saying that those of lesser intellect can now afford them. He hasnt said that those that drive them have lesser intellect. There is a difference... figure it out.
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Aaanyway, back on topic. Av-a-lon cardigan day!
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And I just said that the EA was hardly compariable in any way. Of course, thats just my opinion. Maybe if you were intellegent enough to realise that everyone has different tastes and likes, that saying a particular model looks bad is so subjective that its going to almost certainly be defended. Beat way to avoid this (apart from not posting... but we can only wish for that) is to state it is your 'opinion'!

I personally love the look of the AU, as does a very large portion of the forums. Therefore stating it looks bad is just your 'opinion', it has little or no bearing on anyone elses reality. Just as I think that the anime crap in your avatar looks like childrens TV shows and that the EA is a shocker. Both of these are my 'opinion' and have no bearing on anyone elses reality.

You may find this post a little harsh Selekta but, you know what they say, if you can't take a little bit of criticism then get off the internet. :yeees:
Someones a bit touchy....

But I have to agree.. ing AU's are awesome!

I loved my VCT :1syellow1

Only upgraded it becoz the price was right and I wanted a sedan..

Love my BA more though I think.

As for teh Poll Avalon is my pick, those things are pieces of crap... so bad infact that taxi companies love them. :
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has to be camry/avalon, but my grandpa drives an EF fairmont, and my 60yr old uncle has an NL fairlane
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Damn, I didnt now EA- AU relastions were that bad. Both models had there good and their bad (ie EA 3.2 3Spd & AU I Forte) both models weren't bad cars compared to the opposition (except the 3.2 but forget about that) and put it this way I'd prefer a nice EA over a VN anyday and I'd take and AU Fairmont over a Berlina evertime.

Back on topic, i'm suprised the Honda Accord hasn't had any takers, the V6 Accord has a fair bit are cardigan cred'.
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Back on topic, i'm suprised the Honda Accord hasn't had any takers, the V6 Accord has a fair bit are cardigan cred'.
The Euro Accord is rated as the best luxury cars below $57,000.

Also - cardigan cred cars? Well, wouldn't that also apply to BMW M3/M5, Audi S4, A6 etc, all Porsches, All Merc AMGs? Never seen anyone below 40 owing them : Actually, come to think of it, most cars above $80,000.
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you have to admit though a v6 avalon is a nice car to drive.
yep i admit it before i fell in love with my xr6 an avalon was considered for a new purchase but it was not suitable for a bloke with the mid life crisis thing happening :
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Hay.... Back of the Camry guys. My wife drive a Camry. We have had it 3 years and only been in the shop once for a new water pump. I have had my BA for 11 months and has been in the shop about 9 times for various things. Ford ought to take a leaf from Toyota's book on how to build a reliable car.
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Be careful what you wish for jabba....Young girl that works for has had her brand spankers Corolla in approx. 8 times to have the wing added, wing repainted to match the actual colour of the car, warped dash replaced, hatch taken off and remounted to fix NVH problems, car cut and polish to clean up marked paint (car yard mechanics fault), dash taken out and re-installed again, radio and heater controls tightened up, and of course, the dash tightened up again....My parents Prado went through 3 services before they finally believed 'em and checked and replaced the stuffed up air-flow meter. The Prado's fuel economy improved by about 15-20%.
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Avalon. Bently doesn't need to be on this list. With either a 6.75 Litre Twin Turbo V8 or a t Litre W12, I would hadly imagine either to be considered a Cardigan Car (tm). Afterall, the Bentley is the fasted factory 4 door sedan on the planet!
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Hard choice between the Camry & Avalon, despite the poll being closed.

I had a kodak moment the other day that I wish I could share with you all :P It involved a P-plater in an early 90s Camry complete with (not big) rims, huge muffler and a shopping list splashed over the doors and front guard. I pointed and laughed until he noticed me : and I don't think he was very happy. I then proceeded to continue laughing (as you do), especially when I kicked down to 1st at the end of the 60 zone and rocketed away :sm_headba

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