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View Poll Results: Would you or anyone you know be interested if it was available? | |||
Yes, definately, who do I annoy to make it happen? | 73 | 56.59% | |
No, what's the point? | 20 | 15.50% | |
I wouldn't be interested myself, but others would I think. | 34 | 26.36% | |
Other opinion (please specify in thread) | 2 | 1.55% | |
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15-04-2005, 11:33 AM | #31 | |||
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15-04-2005, 01:16 PM | #32 | ||||
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But as has already been pointed out, the difficulty probably lies in financial issues, not in perceived interest in such a project.
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15-04-2005, 09:29 PM | #33 | |||
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There is a LOT to be said for a well built, small-medium RWD with power. :
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16-04-2005, 05:51 AM | #34 | ||
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Look at the new BMW 1-series .. the only small car on the market at the moment that is RWD ... and it is going fairly well .... for an overpriced car.
. The thing is with the smaller cars is that a east-west FWD configuration is much cheaper and manufacture now ... and there is not as much loss through the drivetrain as a RWD. AWD would be cool ... say bring back a 4 cyl turbo AWD vehicle ... Ford is really missing something in this market. If on the Escort RS Cosworth made it out to Oz from Europe ... that would have given Subaru some competition. I know there were a few examples imported from the UK. I'd say one of the best cars Ford ever produced ... and the factory bodykit was absolutely amazing. Ahhhh ... sex on wheels
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18-04-2005, 12:16 AM | #35 | ||||
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Anyway, back to the issue I raised. Yes, East-west FWD may be cheaper to produce and not lose as much through the drivetrain as a RWD, but I know I'd happily pay extra to have the option of the rears being the driven wheels instead of the fronts. Agreed, AWD would be very cool, I would like to be able to choose between a AWD and a RWD setup personally, but if the AWD was setup to have a RWD character (prefering oversteer to understeer, perhaps a 30/70 power distribution front/rear) then I'd be happy. I wish Ford had made a serious attempt to sell the Escort RS Cosworth here, and/or the Ford Sierra Sapphire Cosworth, both being cars I would be more then happy to own. BTW, for those of you who don't know what an Ford Sierra Sapphire Cosworth looks like, here are some pics: More information on the Sapphire: http://www.turbocharger.co.uk/rs-cosworth-2wd.html More information on the Escort RS Cosworth: http://www.turbocharger.co.uk/rs-cosworth-escort.html Now, back to drooling over the Escort RS Cosworth... :sm_drool:
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22-07-2005, 09:08 PM | #36 | |||
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*bump*
I still want one, but seriously doubt Ford Aus will ever make anything like it. I'd love to be proven wrong... You reading this Ford Australia?
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23-07-2005, 02:10 PM | #37 | |||
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So basically you would like Ford to back pedal to the 70's, 80's & early 90's and start making cars like the EscortRS 2000, Escort Series X, Sierra RS Cosworth, Sierra Sapphire Cosworth, Escort RS Cosworth. :evil_laug Yep I'm with you dude How hard can it be, and they would sell ! |
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23-07-2005, 02:14 PM | #38 | ||||
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Definately! The idea rocks. I'd have the missus trade her pulsar in on one straight away.
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24-07-2005, 03:20 PM | #39 | ||||
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Imagine how good a modern Escort could be?
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Pully skulks off to continue his plan to retro-fit the EL's dash & interior into a Mk II Esky...
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24-07-2005, 09:13 PM | #43 | ||
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I was looking at an old '77 Celica that was next to me at the traffic lights... It made me think of the choices of new 4Cyl rear wheel drives!
After a split second, I had that Celica mentally resprayed, with a super-charged twincam donk fitted! I might save that for a retirement project :nutsycuck |
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24-07-2005, 09:54 PM | #44 | ||
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If FORD brought something like this, which I highly doubt will happen I would seriously entertain buying one brand new from the dealer (as long as it wasn't built in Iran). If it happened it would allow me to have a nice daily driver and i would be able to by my dream V8 Fairlane for weekends.
The new RWD Tiburon might put a fire under FORD, but honestly I think a new RWD Escort is just a pipe-dream.
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24-07-2005, 10:08 PM | #45 | ||||
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It seems to me from everyones responses to this thread that there would be at least some interest in such a project, quite possibily enough interest to warrent further investigation by Ford... I wish I know of a way to state the case for this project to Ford Australia and get them to take a serious look at it - it may just be a pipe dream, but it's something I am passionate about!
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24-07-2005, 10:10 PM | #46 | ||
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Woops just realised i've fell for a bit of good 'ol thread mining
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I reckon a small RWD (with AWD as option) 4cyl could be a good seller. Especially if it had same or better power to weight ratio as XR6T! Wouldn't neccessarily need to be called Escort.
Why have modern cars predominantly become FWD anyway? Cost? Safety? |
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And just to remind us what a MKII RS2000 looked like I've attached a couple of pics of the wifes RS2000 replica that we built a few years ago.
It used to turn a few heads where ever it went .... you don't see too many on the road these days. |
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07-08-2005, 10:19 PM | #51 | ||
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It would be nice to have a RWD alternative that doesn't have a gas guzzler Falcon motor. It would be an ideal car to drive around, have some fun in and it would not cost you too much to run.
By the way I still think the MKI RS2000 is still nicer than the MK2 and one of the best Fords around. |
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07-08-2005, 11:44 PM | #52 | |||
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Surely Ford can do something like this, but better! |
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09-08-2005, 01:56 PM | #53 | ||
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Yep, great idea!
RWD, 2L NA and Turbo - great for people who want a RWD aussie car but dont want or need (particulary important due to fuel prices) a car the size of falcon or territory.
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31-08-2005, 08:37 AM | #54 | ||
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I sure would.
Ive always liked the old eskies and a modern day version would certainly be refreshing. |
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31-08-2005, 10:08 AM | #55 | ||||
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I think the reasoning behind front wheel drivers it that its simply easier to pull the car alone then push it as well as having less drive train loss, therefore having better economy, which is what you want in a smaller sedan/hatch.
(BTW) That Renault is actually a mid-mount engine, and has been dropped as of this year. Still, it would be nice to have a little powerfull RWD sedan. MMM Sierra cosworth.
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Since my first car was a mk1 cortina, yes bring on the GT or the Lotus version again. I miss those smith gauges. 4 in a row is all the go.
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31-08-2005, 03:41 PM | #57 | ||
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Bring back the RS1800 Escort!
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31-08-2005, 03:46 PM | #58 | ||||
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