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Old 07-01-2007, 07:00 PM   #31
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“Is it just me or do the mazda bt50 and ford's ranger still look like late 90's designs compared to new navara/rodeo/hilux/triton????.”

IMO the Ranger looks better than the Hi-lux and Rodeo, Navara is all right thou don’t like the front and they rely dropped the ball on the new Triton.

The Diesel in the Ranger Looked very good until Toyota and Nissan released there new one and now it just looks average, and where the hell is the petrol Option 4.0LTr V6 SOHC Hello.

I was considering getting a duel cab 4WD Ranger but the total lack of information about them On the Ford Website and in general put me off and I was sick of waiting to hear something and gave up, so I looked at the XR6 Turbo instead and will just hang onto the current 4by.

Buy the sounds of it the ranger is just going to be another rebadged Bravo anyway like the Courier was which is a bit of a let down, I though they would have done something a little different with it.
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Old 07-01-2007, 10:28 PM   #32
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Do you have any info on the new Mitsubishi 4wd lineup and lancer - how did they fair?
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Old 07-01-2007, 11:33 PM   #33
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Want to know what the top selling light car was last year, or the tenth biggest exporter of cars to Australia? Read on McDuff


The saying goes something like this... There's lies, damn lies and statistics... In the new car world Down Under, there's VFACTS. Not lies, but statistics -- a blow by blow, monthly description of the fortunes of the 44 car and 15 heavy truck brands that report via the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries (FCAI) new vehicle sales system.

Indeed, nothing gets the 59 sets of backroom boys and girls crunching numbers or the PR flunkies buzzing like the chance to review 12 months' worth of new vehicle sales stats and put their spin on them.

The numbers are unmercifully sliced and diced to suit everybody's purposes. Indeed with the raw figures barely two days old, we've already received press releases from almost every major marque claiming they are number one... In the three-door near-premium convertible diesel hatch market... For automatics... Under $45,000...

You get our drift.

So to settle any arguments and save you from reading reams of PR fluff, we've spent two days swatting and condensed the lists for you. Here follows a page of facts and figures you can use to impress friends and influence people -- or perhaps even treat seriously to get a snapshot of Australian new car vehicle marketplace...

Segmentation
It was a year of (some) ups and (mostly) downs across the Aussie automotive landscape.

Passenger cars
Light 116,086 up 21.1 per cent
Small 219,358 up 0.6 per cent
Medium 87,264 up 1.6 per cent
Large 136,606 down 18.4 per cent
Upper large 7334 up 7.5 per cent

Peoplemovers 15,442 down 1.9 per cent

Sports 1944 down 14.9 per cent

SUV
Compact 77,721 up 4.1 per cent
Medium 59,315 down 15.2 per cent
Large 15,469 down 18.9 per cent

Luxury 18,342 up 10.5 per cent

Commercials
Vans 20,453 down 5.2 per cent
Utes/CC 4x2 69,545 down 12.6 per cent
Utes/CC 4x4 67,639 up 7.8 per cent

Sales by buyer type
Of the total 931,032 Passenger, SUV and Light Commercial new vehicle sales in 2006, private buyers accounted for 455,860, Business 344,939, Government 78,559 and Rental fleets, 51,674.


Fuel for thought
Diesel passenger car sales to private buyers almost doubled in 2006 -- from 5302 to 10,556. Hybrid grew in a similar manner though of a smaller base -- 1292 sales, up from 674. In non-private sales of passenger cars diesel grew from 1869 to 5224 units.

That said the sub-16,000 unit total of diesel passenger car sales accounts for less than 2.7 per cent of the total (598,394unit) passenger car market


Resource vehicle boom
Only Western Australia increased total its new vehicles sales in 2006. The Sandgropers were up 10.2 per cent to 110,861 vehciles. NSW remains the biggest state in terms of new vehicles 293,354 units -- off 4.0 per cent from 2005. Tasmania dropped the most sales in percentage terms -- down 6.7 per cent. In numerical terms Victoria fared the worst, 14,362 vehicles down -- a drop of 5.6 per cent.


2006 Top Ten Marques
1 Toyota 213,847 - 22.2 per cent
2 Holden 146,511 - 15.2 per cent
3 Ford 114,965 - 11.9 per cent
4 Mazda 63,664 - 6.6 per cent
5 Honda 54,202 - 5.6 per cent
6 Mitsubishi 54,175 - 5.6 per cent
7 Nissan 53,392 - 5.5 per cent
8 Hyundai 46,523 - 4.8 per cent
9 Subaru 37,520 - 3.9 per cent
10 Volkswagen 21,571 - 2.2 per cent

2006 Top Ten Models
1 Commodore 56,531
2 Corolla 46,256
3 Falcon 42,390
4 HiLux 36,885
5 Mazda3 32,432
6 Camry 30,244
7 Yaris 27,990
8 Getz 20,853
9 Astra 19,681
10 Rodeo 18,446

Top Ten Sales by Country of Origin
1 Japan 367,443
2 Australia 201,623
3 Thailand 103,160
4 Korea 95,443
5 South Africa 38,942
6 Germany 32,829
7 Other 23,822
8 Belgium 19,616
9 Spain 14,168
10 France 13,787

Top Five Light Cars under $25K
1 Yaris 27,990
2 Getz 20,853
3 Barina 13,635
4 Swift 10,131
5 Jazz 9441

Top Two Light Cars over $25K
1 206 1525
2 C3 779

Top Five Small Cars under $40K
1 Corolla 46,256
2 Mazda3 32,432
3 Astra 19,681
4 Viva 17,483
5 Lancer 15,633

Top Two Small Cars over $40K
1 1 Series 2093
2 Cooper 1448

Top Five Medium Cars under $55K
1 Camry 24,221
2 Mazda6 12,826
3 Accord Euro 10,013
4 Liberty 7797
5 Jetta 3111

Top Two Medium Cars over $55K
1 3 Series 6036
2 IS250 3381

Top Five Large Cars under $70K
1 Commodore 56,531
2 Falcon 42,390
3 380 12,423
4 Accord 6702
5 Camry V6* 6023
*Superceded model ... Camry V6, Avalon and Aurion total 9431

Top Three Large Cars under $70K
1 5 Series 1813
2 E-Class 1704
3 A6 698

Top Two Upper Large Cars under $100K
1 Statesman* 1986
2 300C 1864
Does not include Caprice (1090)

Top Three Upper Large Cars over $100K
1 S-Class 578
2 7 Series 293
3 Bentley (all) 108
In this class Rolls Royce (12) outsold Maybach (1) by... umm... 12 to 1....

Top Five Sports under $80K
1 MX-5 1468
2 Monaro 912
3 Astra Convertible 907
4 RX-8 879
5eq Tigra 651 & Saab 9-3 Conv

Top Two Sports over $80K
1 CLK-Class 1459
2 3 Series Coupe/Convertible 1278

Top Five Sports over $200K
1 911 389
2 6 Series 228
3 SL-Class 150
4 Maserati (all)* 107
5 Ferrari (all) 101
* Aston lists under AM Convertible and AM Coupe. To be fair, the Brit models' total of 111 would have knocked off the Italians

Top Five Peoplemovers (under and over $55K combined)
1 Carnival 4781
2 Tarago 3161
3 Odyssey 3002
4 Avensis 1417
5 Voyager 549

Top Three Vans
1 HiAce 8465
2 Express 2318
3 Transit 1919

Top Five 4x2 Utes
1 HiLux 16,723
2 Falcon 15,858
3 Commodore 13,377
4 Rodeo 10,463
5 Courier 4140

Top Five 4x4 Utes
1 HiLux 20,162
2 Navara 14,362
3 Rodeo 7983
4 Triton 7283
5 LandCruiser 7186

Top Five SUV Compact
1 RAV4 14,834
2 Forester 13,010
3 X-Trail 11,331
4 CR-V 10,069
5 Outback 6165

Top Five SUV Medium
1 Territory 18,364
2 Prado 13,374
3 Kluger 4973
4 Pajero 4496
5 Pathfinder 4148

Top Three SUV Large
1 LandCruiser 10,653
2 Patrol 4199
3 Commander 378

Top Five SUV Luxury
1 X5 2968*
2 RX330/350 2703
3 M-Class 2445
4 Discovery 1853
5 XC90 1699
*669 X5s were registerd in December. YTD November just under 2300 X5s had been sold -- an average of approx 225 per month. Looking for a cheap X5? Get to your BMW dealer soon!

X5 pictured (one of a number that were rapidly whipped to the rego office on Dec 31!)
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Old 08-01-2007, 11:21 AM   #34
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The focus is selling very well

Bring back the Mondeo to take on the Vectra, god, 30 sales for the month is shocking
They're basically running the old Vectra out now, in anticipation for their new Daewoo replacement.
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Old 08-01-2007, 11:22 AM   #35
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Ahh, I think he wanted Mitsubishi, not Nissan 4WDs

I've seen a small handful of new Outlanders on the road. A pretty well priced package and much better looking than the previous version.
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Old 08-01-2007, 11:23 AM   #36
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I think they overlooked Focus in their Top Five Small Cars under $40K summary.
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Old 08-01-2007, 01:56 PM   #37
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Ahh, I think he wanted Mitsubishi, not Nissan 4WDs

I've seen a small handful of new Outlanders on the road. A pretty well priced package and much better looking than the previous version.
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Old 09-01-2007, 11:56 AM   #38
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Even Camry is choking. Anything longer than your front porch is suddenly unpopular with consumers.

It's madness.
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Old 09-01-2007, 09:50 PM   #39
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All the cry boy stuff in this thread about the state of Ford marketing really has me stuffed. If it was suited to tastes written here, would that mean that you will buy more Fords?
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Old 09-01-2007, 10:42 PM   #40
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You can effectively add Falcon + Territory and Commodore + Captiva because all these cars are vying for the same market in the end.

You Get

Falcon Platform: 3990 sales
Commodore + Captiva: 5448 sales
What's a Commodore got in common with a Captiva?
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Old 09-01-2007, 11:18 PM   #41
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What's a Commodore got in common with a Captiva?
Ones a cheaply made, rough, crude, tacky and ugly excuse of a vehicle built in a land run by idiots, the others a Captiva.

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Old 09-01-2007, 11:26 PM   #42
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All of which begs the question that I have been asking for over a year now, "what will Ford have to do to actually sell Falcons through 2007 until the new model comes out?"

Up against it, to say the least.
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All of which begs the question that I have been asking for over a year now, "what will Ford have to do to actually sell Falcons through 2007 until the new model comes out?"
Buy one falcon, get a Mitsubishi 380 free.
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:12 AM   #44
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can someone explain to me how the Yaris can outsell the Fiesta 4 to 1 ? its a mad world out there.

And the 0 LTD result has got me very saddened, not even one hired car or hearse sale; how the mighty have fallen.
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:21 AM   #45
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And the 0 LTD result has got me very saddened, not even one hired car or hearse sale; how the mighty have fallen.
Well look at what it's competing against - the WM statesman is an exciting brand new car - and Ford togther with the rest of the Automotive industry were probably caught napping as I believe early indications suggested that Holden was going to hold off releasing the new Stateman until later this year, rather than bring both the new statesman and VE online together.

And lets not forget that the 300C is offering a brand new alternative to both the usual Ford and Holden rivalry.
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