FG X, The Last EVER Falcon - Picture & Discussion Thread

[Nikked]

Not genesis...different fuel flap location for starters...

[ryeman]

Tesla?.

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by NX74205

I think we can safely say that the mystery car is not a Ford at all, but the new Hyundai Genesis:

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It was also spotted at the Nordschleiffe.

http://instagram.com/p/gdJAEXrleR/#

Really? No. BarraXR8 has the China tie in nailed.

[The Stylist]

Hmmm, this is an interesting one... As someone that specialises in the spy shot arena, all I can say is that it doesn't match anything new announced by Ford.

I've seen patent CGI's for the China-bound 'production' Escort sedan, and this test mule is different. However, BarraXR8 may still be correct with the China link - a more conventional sedan to sit above/alongside the Mondeo in that market?

What it isn't, is the upcoming Falcon or Mondeo. The next Taurus may be a possibility, although the replacement for that car is still up in the air as far as I know.

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by The Stylist

I've seen patent CGI's for the China-bound 'production' Escort sedan, and this test mule is different. However, BarraXR8 may still be correct with the China link - a more conventional sedan to sit above/alongside the Mondeo in that market?

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How close are the CGI's to the Concept?

[NX74205]

Originally Posted by Nikked

Not genesis...different fuel flap location for starters...

Well it's not an Escort either. It's too big to be an Escort, and the door handles, fuel filler cap and the glasshouse isn't right:



I see your point about the different fuel filler cap location on the Genesis. Then there's the different mirror, and different location for the high stop lights, but the way I see it, the doors and the glasshouse are a dead ringer:




I take your point that it may not be the Genesis, but if it is a Ford, what can it be? It's not the Escort or Mondeo/MKZ, and definitely not Falcon. Googled pics of the new Taurus development mule is based off a Fusion with a hideously stretched bootlid, so I also doubt it's a Taurus.

[Bossxr8]

China always has LWB versions of normal cars built specifically for them. There are LWB 3 series etc.

It may just be a LWB version of something with some additional changes?

[The Stylist]

Originally Posted by Nikked

How close are the CGI's to the Concept?

Very close indeed, in fact that blue-coloured photoshop that NX74205 posted below is basically it.

The more I look at those test mules, it makes me wonder if it's the next Taurus. It appears to be a larger car and the dual exhausts indicate there might be decent power train options lurking underneath.

The profile is similar to that of the Audi A7, with its raked rear section and sloping boot lid. The boot opening is very wide and down low between the exhausts is what appears to be a fog-light.

Also noteworthy, are the chrome roof strips/rails that flow down to the base of the rear windscreen and lower-door inserts. Suggests a premium vehicle?

[Dr Smith]

If we saw the front number plate we could at least say it was Ford Aust. owned.

[evse82]

The rego doesn't come up on the vicroads rego check... it probably would have been generic anyway if it had. My investigating has now concluded. :(

[ryeman]

They wouldn't have the cheek to call the Taurus a Falcon .....?

[NX74205]

Originally Posted by ryeman

They wouldn't have the cheek to call the Taurus a Falcon .....?

Ford has already said that the next Falcon will be a facelift of the FG. So no, next Falcon won't be a Taurus.

[1TUFFUTE]

Originally Posted by NX74205

Ford has already said that the next Falcon will be a facelift of the FG. So no, next Falcon won't be a Taurus.

Thank god for that too...I'm not ready for the falcon to be goe yet....I need a few years to warm to the idea

[Focused]

Originally Posted by NX74205

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Sorry to high-jack, but I wonder if the face-lifted Focus may end up looking like this?

[jpd80]

Ford's elves have been putting in big days over the last few weeks getting the prototypes ready, not long now.

[bigwil]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Ford's elves have been putting in big days over the last few weeks getting the prototypes ready, not long now.

Has anybody on here who works for Ford actually seen one yet? If yes any details that we don't know about yet

[NX74205]

Originally Posted by Focused

Sorry to high-jack, but I wonder if the face-lifted Focus may end up looking like this?

A facelifted Focus may have the new Aston-Martin style grille, yeah (unfortunately for me, I'm not a big fan of it).

Originally Posted by bigwil

Has anybody on here who works for Ford actually seen one yet? If yes any details that we don't know about yet

Even if there is, they won't be allowed to disclose anything that Ford hasn't already disclosed.

[jpd80]

I recon it's the Chinese MKS, it has number plate in rear of boot where US version has the number plate in the bumper.

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

If we saw the front number plate we could at least say it was Ford Aust. owned.

Don't Ford have a little brass tag on the plates?

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by Kayos

so why is Vic doing R&D on a o/s car that will be built somewhere else or sold on the other side of the world..

They have done a few cars for the Asian market now. They can R&D cheaper then the Chinese can.

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by Nikked

Don't Ford have a little brass tag on the plates?

Exactly.

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Ford's elves have been putting in big days over the last few weeks getting the prototypes ready, not long now.

A few missed dinner at their mum's as well, lol.

[Road_Warrior]

Ford sedans in the Chinese domestic market have been a bit "off beat" for a number of years. For example, the current shape Mondeo is made (well, assembled) there, but in a special LWB form that isn't available anywhere else.

This car is most likely a replacement for that Mondeo, and most likely CD4-based. The only gaps that need to be filled are whether it is a stretched Fusion/Mondeo like the one before it, or a China-only version of the next generation Toreass. Which I note is going to be built in China from 2015...

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Nikked

Don't Ford have a little brass tag on the plates?

Only on the front plate.

[XR Martin]

Are we sure its not the next gen Camry?

What are the rear lights off? Looks like they are from something existing, that are dodgied in place.
Work out what the lights are from are we'll know the brand.

[Bossxr8]

That upwards kink in the rear door window is definitely Mondeo. It has to be some sort of Chinese Mondeo I reckon.

Mondeo Vignale? Anyone want to compare the Vignale concept to the prototype here?

[ryeman]

I see GOAUTO report Hyundai doing suspension tuning for Chinese n Russian markets, could it be a Genesis sedan?

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

That upwards kink in the rear door window is definitely Mondeo. It has to be some sort of Chinese Mondeo I reckon.

Mondeo Vignale? Anyone want to compare the Vignale concept to the prototype here?

This link and photo might helped those better skilled.
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=m...w=1901&bih=724

[tweeked]

So just where are the 2014 Falcon mules? they would have to be out and about by now wouldnt they?

[Gadgetman]

Why mules, Its not as if mechanically they will be much different. Most changes are visual aren't they?