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28-05-2012, 11:12 AM | #631 | |||
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In NSW we pay 24c + GST (ish) When there was a FIT of 66c (about 18 months ago) I could not cost justify the install. Now with a FIT of 6c I can. With the 66c FIT I was costing at the two "sweet spots" in the pricing - 1.5 kw, and 3.5 kw. The 3.5 KW had a slightly faster payback, but was a whole lot more expensive. the payback was over 6 years, with a buy in of over 3,000. Now as time has progressed I purchased a 2.1 kw system for under $2000 with a payback under 5 years (prolly under 4) So in my case the lower FIT is more easily justified as the install costs have responded to the drop in demand caused by the decrease in FIT. Last edited by EgoFG; 28-05-2012 at 11:22 AM. |
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28-05-2012, 04:01 PM | #632 | ||
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So now for a couple of questions for someone in the industry.
I already have a 2.1 KW solar system with a Net Meter. What is approx cost if I add a 1.5 kW with its own inverter BEFORE June 30 ? What is approx cost if I add a 1.5 kW with its own inverter AFTER June 30 ? Can the second inverter feed in to the same Phase, in fact be junctioned to the same feed in wire as my existing system ? (this is to ensure that I can continue to meter the joint effect of the two Solar Arrays using my existing Wattson) |
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30-05-2012, 11:42 PM | #633 | ||
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yeah stagg anymore info pic would be great
and the new rebate is $450 less, haha there are a few solar places that have put there price up more than that here in WA haha
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31-05-2012, 10:27 AM | #634 | |||
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mate I'm not an expert here simply a user but hopefully one will come along and give you better advice.......meantime this advice will bump the thread if you have a 2.1 kilowatt system and want to upgrade then you could upgrade your existing inverter to suit the expected upgraded size and still stay within the same wiring configuration you have now however if you have a 2.1 kw system installed and you have a 3kw inverter then you could easily upgrade to a 3.5kw system now without any upgrades to your inverter my system is 3.5kw and runs quite happily on a 3 kw inverter system sizes vary greatly within state boundaries but I would advise to just shop around
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31-05-2012, 10:36 AM | #635 | ||
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If you are looking to upgrade to more panels. Just maken sure you speak to your retailer first as you may lose your current Feed in tariff.
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31-05-2012, 10:37 AM | #636 | ||
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Whoops, I left out two factors that would mean that a second inverter is the go.
My current inverter is at capacity. The second 1.5 kW will be North East, whereas the existing is North West. I am guessing that to throw out my existing Inverter and go for a dual tracker 4kW would be prohibitively expensive compared to adding a second 1.5kW inverter. And thanks for the tip on Feed in, but I run a net meter - the FIT will not change from 6c. |
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31-05-2012, 10:42 AM | #637 | ||||
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you would (I think) be better off treating the second install as a "new" install with new inverter have a word with your installer to make the whole thing neat and tidy, I.E. inverters next to each other and running off the same distribution board the dual tracker, I think, is overpriced if you wait till after the June cutoff I reckon there will be some blinding specials as the fly by nighters leave town
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31-05-2012, 09:24 PM | #638 | |||
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If your current FiT rate is not the premium tariff then you wouldn't really be at any loss at all
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31-05-2012, 09:35 PM | #639 | |||
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If anyone has heard of Edson, they went into administration a few days ago and thousands of people now have invalid Edson warranties... Same happened with Solar Shop, Neco and Beyond building Energy; all their customers now have invalid warranties.
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01-06-2012, 11:08 AM | #640 | ||
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this morning I seen a 2 kw system advertised for just under $2,000 from a "reliable" dealership
that price I personally wouldn't worry too much about warranty.......most of the systems sold today will not have the agencies around in 25 years time if something goes wrong if you get 5 years out of it then it owes you nothing who knows what will be around in even ten years time new breakthroughs everyday
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01-06-2012, 12:50 PM | #641 | ||
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So My findings are this:
a 1.5kW system that is selling now for about $1500 as a first install, will cost $3000 now as a "second" install. And after July 1 .... $3000. The way the bonus plan works is not planned to change for those wanting a subsequent install. But my numbers do not make sense until a subsequent install of 1.5kW drops to $1500. - So wait I will ! |
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01-06-2012, 03:28 PM | #642 | |||
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02-06-2012, 10:55 AM | #643 | ||
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woo hoo not long now eurosolar called doing my install thursday am cant wait
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02-06-2012, 11:09 AM | #644 | |||
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02-06-2012, 11:17 AM | #645 | |||
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good to hear, not long now......mine sent out a whole 1 kilowatt yesterday! produced 3 kw in total solar panel technology is a strange beast.......outputs have increased but really they haven't changed all that much in the last ten years they are a very basic design and one that I think will be around in a similar form for a long time to come similar to motor vehicles.......just continue to tweek the bells and whistles dont know what the next "breakthrough" will be.......though I'd like shares in it now
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02-06-2012, 02:43 PM | #646 | |||
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Spray on solar cells; in California but not sure of the company name Current most efficient solar panels available worldwide manufactured by Boeing, multi-layer solar cells, five or six solar cells stacked up like a sandwich, which all let through lesser amounts of light so that by the time the light reaches the lowest cell the efficiency is somewhere around 80-90%. They're the solar panels used on satellites, but the cost is somewhere around the $650 per watt USD What I'm excited about is some Australian companies are about to begin manufacturing super efficient concentrator photovoltaic cells, where light is concentrated onto one small photovoltaic cell which operates at super high temperatures, and one 4cm x 4cm cell produced anywhere from 15 to 20W For the concentrator cell its not to be confused with the current power tower solar systems, which use mirrors to focus heat onto water to turn into steam and drive a turbine (although that is more efficient than all available solar panels today but only really works on a large scale basis).
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02-06-2012, 03:11 PM | #647 | ||
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hmm!....... interesting times ahead!
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07-06-2012, 11:47 AM | #648 | ||
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system installed today took 3 hours now we will see fingers crossed that i did my sums right damm im excited
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07-06-2012, 11:53 AM | #649 | ||
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well done......let the savings begin!
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07-06-2012, 11:55 AM | #650 | |||
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07-06-2012, 12:24 PM | #651 | |||
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07-06-2012, 01:35 PM | #652 | |||
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You still need to wait for your meter to be installed. Your solar is not working at the moment. |
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07-06-2012, 03:58 PM | #653 | ||
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I don't agree with the current solar push. I would prefer that solar be constructed on a community basis and use the existing grid. To me it's the same as everyone getting a small coal fired generator in their garage and producing their own power from that. I reckon history will show it as a waste of resources.
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07-06-2012, 04:23 PM | #654 | ||
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local attitude.......regional effect....
governments, local, state and federal wont do anything so it is up to the individual to place in motion that which they think is relevant
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07-06-2012, 04:39 PM | #655 | ||
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I heard people who dont have solar power are subsiding those that do is this correct?
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Accept we aren't burning coal! 100% renewable, otherwise wasted, resource.
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