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30 new cases for Australia and 3 deaths so the CMR rises to 3.170% while active cases drop to 1,870. NSW recorded 2 cases and Queensland recorded 3 with the balance in Victoria. The Victorian State 14 day moving average is now 36.71 with metro at 29.4 (41 unknown) and regional at 1.1 and no unknown cases.
No new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.377% and active cases fall to 61. The UK had 4,926 new cases yesterday, the highest since early May. We know they are now not counting their mortalities by the WHO guidelines so we are going to ignore those figures. Just under 53k new cases in the USA yesterday and 384 deaths sees CMR drop to 2.8962% and active cases drop to 36.2% with the raw numbers rising. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences. Other notable points: North America passes 300k deaths; The USA completes 99M and India 65M tests; The Netherlands (2,245) and Spain (10,799) both recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.
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What's the takeaway you want us to have from your comments? My post was simply to indicate the magnitude of the impact that this particular virus is having. Nothing more. Nothing less. I do agree with you tho that there should be more focus on suicide prevention. Mental health advocacy has been slow to take off, but it is gaining momentum. We just had a presentation through our work from Wayne Schwass (ex North Melbourne and Sydney Swans AFL player) and his Puka Up Foundation. That sort of thing was unheard of as little as 5 years ago. Quote:
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Personally I think the stimulus is holding the economy back. (Apart from victoristan, it’s still very much needed there.
At my job we can’t get workers, I know others are having the same issue, nearly every day I have employment agencies ringing me trying to get me to work even though they know I’m in full time employment now. People are preferring to sit at home on jobkeeper/seeker because they’re earning enough money that it’s not worth them going to work five days a week for an extra $1-200 a week. With the weather warming up it’s even more enticing to stay on the govts tit. |
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If the UV light method doesn't work for you CoupeKing, you could try the following method - which was only just recently released by world leading COVID-19 researchers. This method is yet to be approved by the FDA and the WHO, but that hasn't stopped some people, and it shouldn't stop you from giving it a go if you must.
Researchers have released a set of instructions that is said to 100% eliminate the virus within a 6-8 hour period, and also with a 100% guarantee of NO long lasting side effects. This is absolutely fantastic news. The study indicates that someone who has tested positive should consume 2 litres of very salty water within a 10 minute period. Following this, you must enter an Infrared Sauna immediately (not sure why it specifies an infrared sauna... but hey who am I to argue). Continue to stay inside the sauna for a period of 6-8 hours, and by yourself, as the vapour being expelled from your body contains high traces of COVID-19, and is contagious. Best practice would be to leave a note on the outside of the sauna with instructions stating that no one is to enter until **:**am/pm. After a period of 6-8 hours inside the sauna, you will have 100% eliminated all traces of the COVID virus, and any side effects. As per the note you left outside the sauna, someone will most likely enter the sauna after the indicated time, and recover your now COVID-19 free self. This is great news indeed. I was sent this information on FB, through a mate of a mate who works in a medical microbiology lab, and I have no reason to doubt it's validity. ![]() |
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Normally I’d agree, but having spoken to the, these guys are desperate. It’s just stupidly hard to get workers at the moment. As I said, we have the same problem at work. |
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The US govt last week updated the survival rates (i.e., IF infected) for Covid19:
0-19 99.997% 20-49 99.98% 50-69 99.5% 70+ 94.6% Didn't see it reported much. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...scenarios.html *from Adam Creighton.
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It seems some are perhaps overly focused on the survival rate and ignoring things such as impact on the health system currently, as well as if the virus was left unchecked.
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Some approx figures from crunching some US numbers from CDC,
Comparing the first 37 weeks of this year to 2018 (a high flu year) Deaths Attrib to Flu/Pnemonia (Incl Covid-19) 2020 211,597 2018 143,882 'excess' 67,715 Total Deaths 2020 2,202,027 2018 2,021,634 'excess' 180,393 [opinion] It is harsh, but one could say that about 70% of Covid Deaths would have died anyway. also that there was an unexplained increase in death in the order of about 5% - could this be the 'lockdown' effect, or an increase in violent crimes due to riots ? [/opinion] |
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So far India has lost almost 400 doctors to the virus; while most were elderly the youngest was 27. I can' find figures for the deaths of other health workers. India's health system is underfunded and short of doctors under normal circumstances. As infections increase less people will be able to access care and the survival rate will drop.
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2. Those in the age group at risk are not members of AFF
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3. or suffer other ailments which Covid could severely effect such as Asthma. (like myself)
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4. Not afraid of a virus.
5. Have a functioning immune system not destroyed by pharmaceuticals. 6. Not believing the hype peddled by the government and it's media puppets.
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wrong with point 2
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So your words ring a bit of '**** you Jack, I am OK' and typical of the generation that was one of the main spreaders in the latest Victorian outbreak
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What Im not accepting of is those who think I'm responsible for their health. A bit like thinking the government is responsible for looking after my health. Wrong. The government at all levels has demonstrated a gross incompetence in 'looking after health'. This is indicated by the poor health of the population in general, with 40% of Victorians having comorbidities according to Vic Health. The government doesn't decide what's good for me, that's my job as an adult. It's the governments job to protect borders, fund the military, Police, teachers, nurses etc and protect our civil liberties. It's my job to look after my health.
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OK so you and Cav.
Clearly there are older/wiser people on AFF, but as a general comment is would be pretty accurate.
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32 new cases for Australia and 5 deaths so the CMR rises to 3.185% while active cases drop to 1,699. NSW recorded 6 cases, WA 3, SA recorded 1 with the balance in Victoria. The Victorian State 14 day moving average is now 32.36 with metro at 26.7 (37 unknown) and regional at 1.1 and no unknown cases.
9 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.371% and active cases rise to 62. The UK had 6,178 new cases yesterday, the highest since April 10th and they must be getting close to a 2nd lockdown. We know they are now not counting their mortalities by the WHO guidelines so we are going to ignore those figures. Just over 35.5k new cases in the USA yesterday and 979 deaths sees CMR drop to 2.895% and active cases drop to 35.9% with the raw numbers falling slightly. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences. Other notable points: Europe recorded a new daily cases high of 51,527; Global cases pass 32M, the last 1M taking only 3 days again; The USA completes 100M, India 66M, Brazil 17M and Indonesia 3M tests; Moldova (786), United Arab Emirates (1,083), Tunisia (1,219), Netherlands (2,357), Indonesia (4,465), Iraq (5,055), Spain (11,289) and Israel (11,316) all recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.
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I wonder how Israel managed to stuff things up so bad? Unusual for them. They're usually on top of everything and ahead of the game.
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they thought it was 'just a flu' and 'herd immunity' is the way to go, and they are aren't the only ones, ScoMo was going down that path until he got pulled up, Trump is a believer in that theory, Johnson was too until he go it. Italy and Sweden subscribed to that theory as well
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the suicide thing is a bit of a Furphy, the suicide numbers have NOT increased as a result of the COVID, however people calling help lines is definitely up
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There are currently government backed studies in this country using HCQ in high risk environments such as hospitals and nursing homes to prevent contraction your implication if I’m reading that right is irresponsible to feed even more unsubstantiated fear about this medication. |
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it most certainly does, my family members have been warned by their specialists about it
https://www.rheumatology.org/I-Am-A/...uine-Plaquenil read the first paragraph Quote:
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It will be interesting to see the results of the Shield Trial study underway early next year in regards to HCQ use in high risk environments based on what your family has been told. Last edited by FPV8U; 24-09-2020 at 11:38 AM. |
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You are very contradictory in many of your statements. You clearly mean well but what you type certainly can be taken that you only care about yourself.
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Normally a problem on its own, add a pandemic and it turns it up to 11. Even in a first world democracy like Israel.
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