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Old 29-11-2013, 07:46 PM   #661
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It looks like a Volvo to me.
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Old 29-11-2013, 07:48 PM   #662
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(the reason the NSW Highway Patrol regected the FG XR8 - which had the same brakes as the current GS, was due to poor & unacceptable braking - which is why all current XR6Turbo HWP Cars are fitted by Ford with Brembos)
Wonder if the dramas they had with the BF V8's and their alternators had anything to do with it.
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Old 29-11-2013, 08:09 PM   #663
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Those wheels look like BF XR8 18"s
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Old 29-11-2013, 08:36 PM   #664
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On the Ford Aus website there's a pic of a headlight and top of grille of 2014 Falcon- to me looks like from the Mondeo/Fusion, plenty of pics on Ford US site.
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Old 29-11-2013, 10:06 PM   #665
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It is LHD as well by the looks of it.
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Old 29-11-2013, 11:25 PM   #666
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Article from Drivel regarding the new Falcon
http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor...129-2yfwe.html
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Old 29-11-2013, 11:59 PM   #667
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How bizarre.

Is that a Kia badge or a Ford badge??

Could Toyota or GM be testing another maker's car for comparative purposes??
Looks a bit too small to be a Falcon too.
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Old 30-11-2013, 01:12 AM   #668
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That black thing is a Proton, have a look at their badge when its not covered in black tape.
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Old 30-11-2013, 01:31 AM   #669
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Unless Ford are differentiating the variants of the falcon range.
But even then, the design philosophy doesn't resemble anything else in the global ford range.

The only thing i can think of with rings in the grill and an oval badge is Hyundai or something from chery motors
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Old 30-11-2013, 09:41 AM   #670
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On the Ford Aus website there's a pic of a headlight and top of grille of 2014 Falcon- to me looks like from the Mondeo/Fusion, plenty of pics on Ford US site.
There is? Where exactly is that as I can't find it?
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Old 30-11-2013, 09:48 AM   #671
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That black thing is a Proton, have a look at their badge when its not covered in black tape.
I think you might be right, certainly looks like a Proton badge. It could be they are testing it here at one of the testing facilities, and I know Ford "subcontracts" its proving ground sometimes for other makes.

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There is? Where exactly is that as I can't find it?
The only one I can find there isn't the 201X it is the new Fusion (if it is the one on the grey/silver car). The internal shape is all wrong (see my avatar)
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Old 30-11-2013, 10:01 AM   #672
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The only one I can find there isn't the 201X it is the new Fusion (if it is the one on the grey/silver car). The internal shape is all wrong (see my avatar)

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At least someone can tell the difference between this car and the Fusion
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Old 30-11-2013, 10:03 AM   #673
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Wonder if the dramas they had with the BF V8's and their alternators had anything to do with it.
No, The FG XR8 (& 6T) failed the HWP Brake Tests - with its std penny pinching puny brakes, which is why Ford finally relented and added Brembos (F & R) to secure HWP sales. By that time it was too late for the XR8, which was sadly discontinued. It is also the sole reason why I did NOT buy an FG XR8.

I hope the new XR8 gets AT LEAST 330-350mm F & the Territory 328mm Rears - with larger PBR Performance alloy callipers (similar to the BA XR8 Premiums). This would be a cost-effective solution.

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Old 30-11-2013, 10:26 AM   #674
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Yes, but they would still need to roadtest for NVH, durability of the structure, wind noise etc. i am sure they are not just going to buid job 1 and cross their fingers.
You mean like the sort of testing they did when they went from BA to BA mk2
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Old 30-11-2013, 10:33 AM   #675
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With roughly 10 months to go before going on sale you would hope a bit more information might have leaked out. Considering the circumstances I would've thought ford would be doing a bit more to build some anticipation for what is the last of the breed
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Old 30-11-2013, 10:37 AM   #676
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A front shot of the previous camoed car...no brass tag on numberplate though...

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It would appear that this isn't a Ford at all - the front end styling doesn't match the Trapezoidal-grille theme that Ford employs.

The more I look at it, the more I think it's a Chinese-market vehicle.
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Old 30-11-2013, 11:57 AM   #677
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Form the Ford Aus site..

https://twitter.com/Drivecomau/statu...08052253544449

and here..

http://www.ford.com/cars/fusion/

Same car no surprises all done.

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Old 30-11-2013, 12:09 PM   #678
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Form the Ford Aus site..

https://twitter.com/Drivecomau/statu...08052253544449

and here..

http://www.ford.com/cars/fusion/

Same car no surprises all done.
We can only dream of it being $21,999 here !!!!!
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Old 30-11-2013, 12:40 PM   #679
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There are many reasons for mules regardless of how mechanically similar they might seem.

Plenty of design and electrical change. This requires all sorts of testing and the requirement of mules.
Yes there would be but its not as if they need to do it in disguised sheetmetal. From the outside, it would be an FG just with some Lane departure leds on the mirrors, LA DIDA.
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Old 30-11-2013, 01:17 PM   #680
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I'm getting to the point where I couldn't care less, anymore. Manufacturer 'DNA', global design cues, call it what you will. Nothing will escape the fact that all the manufacturers are making their cars all look the same. Manufacturers used to have bread and butter, then some jam on the side to keep things interesting. Now, all we have are varying degrees of said bread, with butter.

Look at Audi! What's the difference between a base A4, and an S8 these days? The price. Cars are so generic and boring now! (Performance versions excepted, but even they hardly stand out anymore!)

Which brings me to Ford - Fusion, Edge, Mondeo etc. seriously, who gives a rat's **** anymore!!!
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Old 30-11-2013, 01:28 PM   #681
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Form the Ford Aus site..

https://twitter.com/Drivecomau/statu...08052253544449

and here..

http://www.ford.com/cars/fusion/

Same car no surprises all done.
Speculation by Drivel. Nothing more nothing less.
Fusion, not Falcon. BIG difference, especially with the glimpses we've seen of the Audi style DRLs on the Falcon.
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Speculation by Drivel. Nothing more nothing less.
Fusion, not Falcon. BIG difference, especially with the glimpses we've seen of the Audi style DRLs on the Falcon.
We have only seen the XR version...so far...I wound say the pic below (from twitter) is the base model falcon...Fusion doesn't have DRL's, and the detail on the light is different.




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It would appear that this isn't a Ford at all - the front end styling doesn't match the Trapezoidal-grille theme that Ford employs.

The more I look at it, the more I think it's a Chinese-market vehicle.
I'm thinking perhaps something from Geely, or tata...or a update on the Proton Preve...
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We have only seen the XR version...so far...I wound say the pic below (from twitter) is the base model falcon...Fusion doesn't have DRL's, and the detail on the light is different.


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Apparently there might not be an XT model for this one. It's rumored the XR6 is gonna be the base model for the Falcon, but is not confirmed. Yet.
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Old 30-11-2013, 04:42 PM   #685
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The car in camo appears to me as the production version of the Emgrand KC concept - a Geely sub-brand:

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^^^^a Chinese SUB BRAND .......WHAT ?!!
We might as well give the game away if that's their seconds.
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The car in camo appears to me as the production version of the Emgrand KC concept - a Geely sub-brand:

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I think we have a winner!
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Old 30-11-2013, 05:45 PM   #688
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Fusion is the the new Mondeo. Its has already been confirmed that Australia is getting the new Mondeo in 2014. Mondeo is not the new Falcon, therefore the Fusion can not be the new Falcon.

From what we have seen so far they may share some very similar design features, such as upper and lower new Ford "family" grille shape etc.

I am holding back on modifying the my FG because I know I wont be able to resign trading it for the final Falcon
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OK but if I hadn't found the pic on the Ford Aus website, I would have thought oh internet speculation, but they put it there ,do they want to jerk us around? oh that's what they do to us anyway with warranty, just see some of the recent threads...
(sorry it's from, not form, my typo)

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^^^^a Chinese SUB BRAND .......WHAT ?!!
We might as well give the game away if that's their seconds.
Well Geely owns Volvo Cars, so I think they're a bit different to your run of the mill Great Wall parts bin ripoff specials.
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