FG X, The Last EVER Falcon - Picture & Discussion Thread - Page 233

Danny · 05-08-2014, 05:51 AM

Time for my comment. It's a good looking car. Full stop. The rear end? 100x better than the FG. I always hated the FG rear end anyway. Looked like a saggy droopy sack of cr@p with it's oversized awkwardly angled rear bumper and the way the boot sloped down out toward the rear. It just looked odd.

The new rear looks nice regardless of whether it's pretty well a copy of the Jag. I mean look at this car! It just looks good, not cheap, not plasticky or understyled or even underdone with what I've seen so far. End of story.

GTP534 · 05-08-2014, 07:37 AM

^^^^ Just goes to show how different we are. I've always thought the rear 3/4 shot of the FG was the best angle and I love the tail lights. (I don't think it's right to praise the new by criticizing the old one particularly when we haven't seen the new one in the metal and on all models.)

With the new one I think the rear end looks pretty classy too and I'm interested to see how they treat it for the XR8.

From all indicators Ford Australia have done a great job on this last model.

Road_Warrior · 05-08-2014, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GTP534

^^^^ Just goes to show how different we are. I've always thought the rear 3/4 shot of the FG was the best angle and I love the tail lights. (I don't think it's right to praise the new by criticizing the old one particularly when we haven't seen the new one in the metal and on all models.)

With the new one I think the rear end looks pretty classy too and I'm interested to see how they treat it for the XR8.

From all indicators Ford Australia have done a great job on this last model.

I think what he is talking about is the immediate side-on aspect of the FG where the sloping rear/tumblehome design theme of the car makes the bum look a bit...I dunno, frumpy.

Dr Smith · 05-08-2014, 08:44 AM

I've just called my finance guy to change the finance terms on our new SZ to 3yr/0%, so that I have less owing when I buy the FZ, lol....not many cars look worse in real life compared to their photos, this one is going out as a mean looking stunner.

Marty76 · 05-08-2014, 11:15 AM

This new Falcon is so sharp. The front lights look aggressive, like the car is squinting down the road. The front bar is creased near light to help with that look. The look is helped with high wide grill. The face of the car reminds me what the USAAF P40 Kittyhawks. The ground crews painted the angry face onto the fighter.

Nikked · 05-08-2014, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by timeout

Never forget Geoff Polites I wonder how different things would be if he were still alive and in charge.

Probably not much different...

What has happened is for more reasons then just the bloke in charge, I can't see how Geoff Polites would have had too much effect. Well, might have had the last ever falcon with a electronic hand brake and a diesel perhaps...

XR Martin · 05-08-2014, 11:33 AM

Do people forget Geoff went to work for Jag? He was too valuable to the Ford empire to be working 'down under'

xr8territory · 05-08-2014, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Do people forget Geoff went to work for Jag? He was too valuable to the Ford empire to be working 'down under'

and how did that all turn out?

NanoDuke · 05-08-2014, 12:25 PM

2002 - FoMoCo acquire Jaguar
2005 - Polites takes over as Chief Executive
2005-2008 - FordMoCo sell Jaguar to TataMoCo
2008 - Jaguar XF released / FG Falcon released

Jaguard XF now:

Falcon now:

Coincidence?

elfinke · 05-08-2014, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Marty76

This new Falcon is so sharp. The front lights look aggressive, like the car is squinting down the road. The front bar is creased near light to help with that look. The look is helped with high wide grill. The face of the car reminds me what the USAAF P40 Kittyhawks. The ground crews painted the angry face onto the fighter.

Also aided by the inverse slope (the bonnet is ahead of the bottom fender) on the front of the car, which is very stark when placed next to the VF, whihc has the more traditional bulge:

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I guess, as seen better herr (no ASCII!):

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Originally Posted by fgpsi

Calais comparo. The Falcon is so much more aggro looking. Imo it will make the GTS look soft

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Cashie · 05-08-2014, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

Probably not much different...

What has happened is for more reasons then just the bloke in charge, I can't see how Geoff Polites would have had too much effect. Well, might have had the last ever falcon with a electronic hand brake and a diesel perhaps...

I think having someone in charge with the passion and pride he displayed during his time in the seat would have had some impact on the company.
Ford Australia looks on the surface like it has been in autopilot for years, I don't even think we have had decent Falcon advertising since the Geoff Polites BA days.
He got me into my first new BA Falcon in '03...

**Polyal** · 05-08-2014, 01:15 PM

Geez guys...RIP....

The Jag cues have nothing to do with ownerships once upon a time....just current trends. You could start drawing long bows like..

You could go on forever.

|Nate · 05-08-2014, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Geez guys...RIP....

The Jag cues have nothing to do with ownerships once upon a time....just current trends. You could start drawing long bows like..

You could go on forever.

While I somewhat agree, you have to admit, the FX tail lights look almost identical to the Jag's. They aren't just "trending," it's almost 100% the same.

I don't view this as a bad thing either, I just think Ford have decided "You know what? Those XF Jag tail lights would look awesome on the FX, let's do it."

T-Pak Addict · 05-08-2014, 01:42 PM

Bit like the rear end of some Merc's look like an AU.....

We all know how that went....

malazn mafia · 05-08-2014, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by T-Pak Addict

Bit like the rear end of some Merc's look like an AU.....

We all know how that went....

How did it go? AU owners got an ego boost?

**Polyal** · 05-08-2014, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by malazn mafia

How did it go? AU owners got an ego boost?

Merc owners felt privileged

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P6LTD351 · 05-08-2014, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NanoDuke

2002 - FoMoCo acquire Jaguar
2005 - Polites takes over as Chief Executive
2005-2008 - FordMoCo sell Jaguar to TataMoCo
2008 - Jaguar XF released / FG Falcon released

Jaguard XF now:
image

Falcon now:
image

Coincidence?

Geez that Jaguar XF has one ugly rear.

Sarcasm firmly intended;)

LooLoo18 · 05-08-2014, 03:16 PM

Didnt think I would see the day when so many red blooded aussie men would want the Falcon to look euro

P6LTD351 · 05-08-2014, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LooLoo18

Didnt think I would see the day when so many red blooded aussie men would want the Falcon to look euro

What, like the XD that you had did?

LooLoo18 · 05-08-2014, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by P6LTD351

What, like the XD that you had did?

XD Falcon = euro I think not

not in my book anyway

P6LTD351 · 05-08-2014, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LooLoo18

XD Falcon = euro I think not

not in my book anyway

You can slap your forehead all you like. Do a bit of research...

Wretched · 05-08-2014, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LooLoo18

XD Falcon = euro I think not

not in my book anyway

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Granada_%28Europe%29

Have a look at the MKII model

LooLoo18 · 05-08-2014, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by P6LTD351

You can slap your forehead all you like. Do a bit of research...

Sorry I forgot we can't have an opinion in here
We have to agree with everything you say
Again my bad

P6LTD351 · 05-08-2014, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LooLoo18

Sorry I forgot we can't have an opinion in here
We have to agree with everything you say
Again my bad

No, no, no, this discussion is NOT about opinions.

This one is FACT. Very different to an opinion.

joeyy17 · 05-08-2014, 05:03 PM

So... have Ford released what the new Falcon's going to be called yet? So far I've heard FH, FN, FU, FX, FZ

**PepeLePew** · 05-08-2014, 05:14 PM

Gents how about we give it a rest, agree to disagree, and stick to discussion that's interesting and relevant to the thread

Nikked · 05-08-2014, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LooLoo18

XD Falcon = euro I think not

not in my book anyway

Despite the fact that the XD was designed with every intent to look Euro and really did look like a Granada? XD even used Granada parts...

But wasn't that the appeal/core of Australian cars? a strange brew of Euro and American styles?

That's the thing that absolute s**ts me about the constant "the FH is crap because it looks like a "monuar" its too euro and doesn't look like a falcon" tripe seen every time a photo is posted, Ford Australia (believe it or not) don't exist in a bubble, quarantined from the rest of the styling world. From the first "Australian designed" Falcon right up till now, the Falcon has always been our car with global trending traits and brand language built for us.

About the only thing common in Falcon design is 3-box design, 4 doors and wheels...and over 50 years we have seen the Falcon chop and change, introducing daring features like the lowered belt line on the XD, wrap-around doors on the EA, blank grilles...geometric shapes...list goes on...

gesus...imagine if they introduced a 5-door hatch body shape?

**Professor Farnsworth** · 05-08-2014, 05:34 PM

There are so many more important things in life to be concerned about other than arguing about the design of a new car.

FPV GTHO · 05-08-2014, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Geez guys...RIP....

The Jag cues have nothing to do with ownerships once upon a time....just current trends. You could start drawing long bows like..

image

image

You could go on forever.

Those cars are similar but the Jag XF and new Falcon have an identical chrome strip that goes right across and ties into the blinkers and reverse lights. I don't think HQ had much say in our styling, but it goes a bit behind styling trends when the chief designers of Ford and Jaguar are brothers.

P6LTD351 · 05-08-2014, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PepeLePew

Gents how about we give it a rest, agree to disagree, and stick to discussion that's interesting and relevant to the thread

With respect, that's exactly what this thread is about. What can be discussed then? It's all connected to the design of the new Falcon. Can't get much more relevant than that.