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14-10-2020, 09:44 PM | #6991 | |||
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Trevor I'm probably older than you and I'm living with health issues but I blame the Victorian government for the mishandling of this virus in which they caused the second wave. You probably have not experienced the long lock down in Melbourne which I am still experiencing and believe me this has big implications with peoples mental health. We all know you will get the odd person who won't play by the rules which is fact of life. In times like these I think people who are in their senior years or with health issues should be restricting their social activities as much as possible until a vaccine or viable treatment comes available, if you or others want to venture out and take the risk then don't complain. |
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15-10-2020, 08:34 AM | #6993 | ||
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Is C19 now an endemic disease?
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15-10-2020, 12:19 PM | #6994 | ||
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Data valid as at 23:59 GMT October 14th, 2020.
Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting except for the Victorian 14 day moving averages. 20 new cases for Australia and 3 deaths so the CMR rises to 3.307% while active cases increase to 1,392. NSW recorded 14; WA recorded 1 case, SA recorded 3 with the balance in Victoria. The Victorian State 14 day moving average (excluding today) is now back down to 11.0 with metro falling to 8.9 (15 unknown) and regional still at 0.6 with no unknown cases (including today). Victoria reported 7 new cases for the last 24 hours. 2 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.334% and active cases rise to 40. The UK had a new record high 19,724 new cases yesterday. We know they are now not counting their mortalities by the WHO guidelines so we are going to ignore the CMR but even using their method they recorded 137 deaths. Just under 52k new cases in the USA yesterday and 855 deaths sees CMR drop to 2.730% and active cases drop to 32.7% with the raw numbers rising and still over 2.6M. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences. Other notable points: Global cases set a new daily high of 378,910 (14/10); The USA completes 121M, India 90M and Saudi Arabia 7M tests; Europe recorded a new daily case high of 139,674; Albania (203); Bosnia (482); Slovenia (707); Croatia (748); Bulgaria (819); Armenia (1,058) - the previous high on 26/6 Moldova (1,149); Austria (1,346) - the previous high on 26/3; the UAE (1,431); Portugal (2,072); Jordan (2,423); Switzerland (2,823); Romania (4,016); Iran (4,830); Poland (6,526); Italy (7,332) - the previous high on 27/3; Czechia (9.543); Russia (14,231) and; the United Kingdom (19,724) all recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.
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15-10-2020, 06:02 PM | #6995 | |||
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Trans-Tasman bubble: Australia releases new rules for Kiwi travellers
Siobhan Downes 13:41, Oct 15 2020 https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/...iwi-travellers Quote:
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15-10-2020, 10:13 PM | #6996 | ||
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Interesting. How many airports does NT have? So we are going to potentially have overseas arrivals mixing with NZ travellers in NT airport. Sure hope they have their flights appropriately scheduled. Then mix with nsw who are currently experiencing some unknown cases. Hmmmm. Will be interesting to see how many actually come.
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16-10-2020, 06:39 AM | #6997 | |||
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area with multiple flights, especially with international which is completely separate and at the very most one a day......remember there is F all flights at the moment and this NZ thing will be lucky to have 2 or 3 extra flights a week at the most, and most of them will be to Sydney. Same same when flying into Brisbane from Darwin, you do not mix with anyone until you have been processed, the whole area is cordoned of and you don't see anyone except the Police, ABF, ADF and SES until cleared to leave, and only then do you enter the general population areas.. I'll be back in Darwin on Monday, i'll give you an update eh
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16-10-2020, 07:56 AM | #6998 | ||
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Isn't the Darwin airport part of the Military Base
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16-10-2020, 08:05 AM | #6999 | ||
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Yep, separated by the main runway, military one side and civilian on the other....
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16-10-2020, 10:17 AM | #7000 | ||
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Yep, joint user airfield.
I work on the Defence side of the runway. Been quiet here for a while...
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16-10-2020, 10:25 AM | #7001 | ||
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2 new cases in Vic. Looking at Vic's original target review date, 26th Oct, we may have actually met the "impossible" target.
Its interesting though, I am seeing less compliance in the last couple of weeks. People are gathering at parks, groups are playing cricket at the nets, all with masks drawn down. Roads closer to the CBD are very busy. Nah, never been . Hopefully they keep service staff, like cleaners, well separated too. It is really kicking off again in Europe, London went from low risk to high risk tier pretty much overnight. News there is reporting that hospitals are getting filled up (although my NHS mate is saying its all BS, and hospitals are "empty"?). Its almost certain some arrivals will be positive though. |
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16-10-2020, 01:16 PM | #7002 | ||
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Data valid as at 23:59 GMT October 15th, 2020.
Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting except for the Victorian 14 day moving averages. 25 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR drop to 3.297% while active cases increase to 1,397. NSW recorded 11; WA recorded 5 and Queensland 1 case(s) with the balance in Victoria. The Victorian State 14 day moving average is now back down to 10.0 with metro falling to 8.7 (17 unknown) and regional still at 0.6 with no unknown cases (including today). Victoria reported 2 new cases for the last 24 hours. 2 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.333% and active cases rise to 42. The UK had a slightly lower 18,978 new cases yesterday. We know they are now not counting their mortalities by the WHO guidelines so we are going to ignore the CMR but even using their method they recorded 138 deaths. Just under 60k new cases in the USA yesterday and 970 deaths sees CMR drop to 2.722% and active cases drop to 32.5% with the raw numbers rising and still over 2.6M. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences. Other notable points: Global cases set a new daily high of 398,609 (15/10); Global cases pass 39M with the last 1M taking 3 days again; Global deaths pass 1.1M, the last 50k taking 9 days again; Spain recorded their 2nd highest daily total of 13,318 new cases; The USA completes 122M, India 91M, Russia 52M and Italy 13M tests; Europe recorded a new daily case high of 153,303; Angola (250) Albania (257) Bosnia (569) Slovenia (745) Croatia (793) Bulgaria (914) Armenia (1,371) Lebanon (1,499) Austria (1,552) Slovakia (1,929) Portugal (2,101) Jordan (2,459) Germany (7,074) Ukraine (7,791) Poland (8,099) Belgium (8,271) Italy (8,804) Czechia (9.720) Russia (14,231) Argentina (17,906); and France (30,621) all recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.
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16-10-2020, 01:56 PM | #7003 | ||
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That global new cases figure is continuing to rise. Not a good thing.
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16-10-2020, 02:25 PM | #7004 | |||
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I don't care what anyone says. Vic did the right thing with a harsh lock down. We were asked to "live with it" at 50 to 100 a day. It would have quickly spiked again and put other states at risk. The 2nd wave in Europe could be worse than the first. Even Sweden might be imposing restrictions now.
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17-10-2020, 06:25 AM | #7005 | |||
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Well that went well for the first day of the NZ-NSW-NT Bubble, some ducking and weaving going on at the end of the article
Seventeen New Zealanders caught entering Melbourne on day one of travel bubble Quote:
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17-10-2020, 06:44 AM | #7006 | ||
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Our office has been told to come back in November. I've been working mostly in the office the whole time with the odd day or two a week WFH but there are some I have not seen for 6 months. Gonna suck hard for them
But peak logic is we are going to 'pilot' ongoing WFH arrangements despite it working perfectly fine for the last 6 months. **** me dead |
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17-10-2020, 08:20 AM | #7007 | ||
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[QUOTE=DJR-351;6502339]Well that went well for the first day of the NZ-NSW-NT Bubble, some ducking and weaving going on at the end of the article
Seventeen New Zealanders caught entering Melbourne on day one of travel bubble There has'nt been any community transmission in NZ for quite a while so its these idiots putting themselves at risk? Its a one way ticket to NSW/NT because you have to pay for the 14 day quarantine yourself .....so all it will be is people returning to family etc? as it makes for an expensive holliday
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17-10-2020, 08:49 AM | #7008 | |||
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17-10-2020, 08:53 AM | #7009 | |||
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If your driving and don't have the exemptions/passes to cross into another state you are turned around there and then, it should be the same at the airport, if you are not cleared to enter the flights destination you don't board and become a burden on them, simple..... We have had Kiwis flying in to the NT since this began under the essential workers deal, as long as they have all there exemptions/clearances and passes in order and join the ship directly from the airport there is not a problem, they do a 5 week swing then go home where i believe they have to do a 14 day quarantine...
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17-10-2020, 09:47 AM | #7010 | |||
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Leaking like a sieve already. It is an interstate flight where no processing is done at the arrival port, it should have been stopped at Sydney airport. I'm not buying the "but they are infection free" argument. What are the odds of these travelers obeying restriction rules once they enter Vic? Nudda, zilch, donut. Again, it will be a free pass, no scrutiny on failures. We have just been through months of tough restrictions, and we are about to reap some of the rewards, then this happens. Keen to know how Melb airport caught them. From memory you get off the flight and you walk straight out at the domestic end, so how did they get stopped? EDIT: Hearing on ABC now that they weren't stopped. DHHS has no powers to stop people at the airport. They are gone, somewhere in the state, but they don't know where. Probably having a big welcome party as we speak. Last edited by T3rminator; 17-10-2020 at 10:04 AM. |
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17-10-2020, 10:11 AM | #7011 | |||
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All the airports i have been through since this all started have not questioned anyone when boarding a flight out, but all of them put you through the wringer on arrival, that includes Brisbane, Darwin, Sydney, Adelaide, Alice Springs, Cairns, Gove and Bundaberg. Flying back home from Darwin to Bundaberg via Brisbane means traversing the checkpoints twice in Qld but no one gives a hoot when leaving the NT.... As far as the states are concerned it's not there problem when you leave, it's the destination states when you arrive
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17-10-2020, 10:30 AM | #7012 | |||
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3 weeks ago I took my elderly father to the airport to board a flight to Brisbane, as he was moving residency to QLD. After check in, they had a roped off area through which all boarding passengers had to go through before passing through the security scanners. They would not let him on the flight unless he had his QLD border pass, a form of ID, and they also asked him to show evidence of why he was going there. Luckily, I had prepared papers for him on his new QLD place of residence. The hardest part for my 85 year old father, was going into government mandatory quarantine for 14 days at the hotel at Brisbane airport at a cost of $2,800. |
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17-10-2020, 10:45 AM | #7013 | |||
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I don't get the storm in this teacup. Aust government allows people to travel from NZ to Aust if they are coming from a non-hotspot. No restrictions on travelling from NSW to VIC. Or NSW to other states with open borders with NSW. The whole bit about only being able to fly to certain states is Scomo playing political games... and trying to punish the states he deems to be dragging the chain ie QLD in the main part. If they flew into Sydney and stayed there for 14 days would it be an issue?.. not that it makes any difference or sense for that matter. But the question I have is that given this is essentially one-way travel what are those kiwis going to do when they arrive? There is a serious unemployment issue in Australia at the moment.
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17-10-2020, 10:46 AM | #7014 | |||
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17-10-2020, 11:42 AM | #7015 | |||
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My beef is that we haven't had a chance to plan for it, and poor (or lack of time to plan), was a key contributing factor to the initial outbreak. Those coming to vic are probably here for family reunion...another key factor of the initial outbreak. There is not much a tourist can do with a 5km travel restriction, and even with 20kms, its a waste of time. |
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Morrison and the NSW government simply playing games with people's lives, again.
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BREAKING NEWS: The rogue New Zealand travellers have been spotted in a field east of Melbourne.
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17-10-2020, 11:58 AM | #7018 | |||
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Fortunately lately we have been having roadside compliant checks by the cops to make sure they catch people who aren't supposed to be here....... and they've been catching them.
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17-10-2020, 12:16 PM | #7019 | ||
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Data valid as at 23:59 GMT October 16th, 2020.
Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting except for the Victorian 14 day moving averages. 9 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR drop to 3.303% while active cases increase to 1,405. NSW recorded 5 and Queensland 2 cases with the balance in Victoria. The Victorian State 14 day moving average is down to 9.5 with metro falling to 8.1 (17 unknown) and regional down to 0.5 with no unknown cases (including today). Victoria reported 1 new cases for the last 24 hours. 2 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.333% and active cases rise to 42. The UK had a slightly lower 15,635 new cases yesterday. We know they are now not counting their mortalities by the WHO guidelines so we are going to ignore the CMR but even using their method they recorded 136 deaths. Just over 66k new cases in the USA yesterday and 873 deaths sees CMR drop to 2.711% and active cases remain at 32.5% with the raw numbers rising and still over 2.6M. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences. Other notable points: Global cases set a new daily high of 411,361 (16/10); The USA completes 123M, India 92M, Pakistan 4M and 13M tests; Europe recorded a new daily case high of 153,184 after the previous high was amended slightly; Albania (289) Greece (503) Bosnia (621) Slovenia (834) Bulgaria (998) Croatia (1,131) Libya (1,169) Armenia (1,465) Slovakia (2,075) Portugal (2,608) Morocco (3,498) Romania (4,026) Ukraine (5,992) Germany (7,964) Netherlands (7,984) Italy (10,010) Belgium (10,448) Czechia (11,102) and Russia (15,150) all recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.
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Almost 100% of the tests conducted during the blitz in Shepparton earlier in the week have been completed.
So far, all have been negative. That is fantastic news for the Shepparton region. Well done to everyone in Shepparton for getting tested, and the testing teams for the rapid response. |
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