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Old 20-11-2020, 03:45 PM   #751
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Wow, Its like a great big leftist circle jerk in this thread.
proof proof proof,..cmon show it to me. Theres plenty of info out there and if you bothered to do a little unbiased searching you would find many allegations with statement backed by affidavits. You dont have to believe it but its out there..But yeah I know, nothing will change the mind of the TrumpDerangedSyndrome mob.

At this point they are just allegations but if they present enough proof in the courts and it goes to the supreme court, watch out ! If not, well then you'll all get to revel in the socialist dream.

As for the person asking where to get unbiased news, good luck. Independent journos are a better source than the msm. These clowns all parrots the same lines over and over.
Check out someone like Tim pool or David Rubin...among others on youtube who present both sides and in fact both of them consider themselves liberals centrists .
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So where is the fraud ? Prove it ? You and your mate are running out of time.. We are all still waiting for you to put your money where your mouth is....
got to ******** where you can see raw footage, not deleted like youtube, facebook, yahoo, twitter, MSN..ect.

when the media pay millions in being sued for fake news,
like CNN, ABC, ABC aus, BBC, MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, WASHINTON POST, SBS aus, ITV.. you get my point..
yes sued fully verified, collective paid 2.8 billion for fake news (slander/libel)

we the people have a serous problem!!
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Putting aside Trump's intellect - which is a non sequitur

Your statement about political correct tosser -head of ADF reporting on the Brereton inquiry is offensive.

To have soldiers slit captured civilian boys throats with knives, to shoot unarmed villagers fleeing approaching choppers and have the criminal soldiers ridicule them as squirters, to have unblooded soldiers kill unarmed civilians to blood them, to place evidence to hide the murders- this is morally evil.

My Grandfather was in Somme in the Pommies army and came back deaf. He was a very good man who believed firmly in fighting for one's country and family- he would have been disgusted had his army stooped to such subhuman immorality.

At least Australia has the morality to have an Inquiry led by a Supreme Court of NSW Judge who has not pulled any punches. This is the sign of a ethical and morally healthy country.

Fortunately your comments are not in line with the morality of this society.
Whilst you are entitled to an opinion about the alleged incidences regarding SAS troops in Afghanistan, perhaps it may be prudent to see how the allegations stand up to scrutiny in a court of law.

Until then, the SAS soldiers should be treated the same as rapists and thieves - innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

And before I go, can you offer an opinion on this scenario.

There you are in a field with your mates, all bombed up with the latest weaponry and gear, probably about 40kgs worth, it is extremely hot, you have been patrolling relentlessly, you are tired and worn out physically and mentally while surviving on 6 hours sleep a night. You have not slept in a bed for three weeks now, no hot meals or showers for another week.

An old farmer walks past. He is an unarmed civilian.

Minutes later incoming mortar rounds start crashing down on top of you and ya mates. One is killed and two are seriously wounded.

Casualties are choppered out, and what is left of the patrol continues on their mission.

Two days later you see the same farmer walking past again.

Now for the ethical and moral dilemma.

If one of your mates shoots him, would you dob him in as a war criminal?

After all, in your words, such an act is morally evil.
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Wow, Its like a great big leftist circle jerk in this thread.
proof proof proof,..cmon show it to me. Theres plenty of info out there and if you bothered to do a little unbiased searching you would find many allegations with statement backed by affidavits. You dont have to believe it but its out there..But yeah I know, nothing will change the mind of the TrumpDerangedSyndrome mob.

At this point they are just allegations but if they present enough proof in the courts and it goes to the supreme court, watch out ! If not, well then you'll all get to revel in the socialist dream.

As for the person asking where to get unbiased news, good luck. Independent journos are a better source than the msm. These clowns all parrots the same lines over and over.
Check out someone like Tim pool or David Rubin...among others on youtube who present both sides and in fact both of them consider themselves liberals centrists .

“Za Dom spremni” ?

Makes sense, “Croatian Ustaše”. Nazi Allies.

Make sure you include that in your posts Anto so it’s clear 👍
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Whilst you are entitled to an opinion about the alleged incidences regarding SAS troops in Afghanistan, perhaps it may be prudent to see how the allegations stand up to scrutiny in a court of law.

Until then, the SAS soldiers should be treated the same as rapists and thieves - innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
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And before I go, can you offer an opinion on this scenario.

There you are in a field with your mates, all bombed up with the latest weaponry and gear, probably about 40kgs worth, it is extremely hot, you have been patrolling relentlessly, you are tired and worn out physically and mentally while surviving on 6 hours sleep a night. You have not slept in a bed for three weeks now, no hot meals or showers for another week.

An old farmer walks past. He is an unarmed civilian.

Minutes later incoming mortar rounds start crashing down on top of you and ya mates. One is killed and two are seriously wounded.

Casualties are choppered out, and what is left of the patrol continues on their mission.

Two days later you see the same farmer walking past again.

Now for the ethical and moral dilemma.

If one of your mates shoots him, would you dob him in as a war criminal?

After all, in your words, such an act is morally evil.
not keen on scenario, yes i'v see 6yo with grandades given to them by their mums.. i still prefer the facts first..
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Whilst the Australian Defence Force is in the news at the moment it isn't part of the US elections.

Could we perhaps start another thread if you want to continue these discussions.
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Old 20-11-2020, 04:46 PM   #757
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“Za Dom spremni” ?

Makes sense, “Croatian Ustaše”. Nazi Allies.

Make sure you include that in your posts Anto so it’s clear 👍
nothing to do with the topic but...nope Za dom Spremni is an ancient croatian patriotic slogan..nice try though
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Whilst the Australian Defence Force is in the news at the moment it isn't part of the US elections.

Could we perhaps start another thread if you want to continue these discussions.
Much better to shut up altogether about the issue until after any court action about it. Very complex issue and no one here was even there...... at the time.
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Dumb ?
Trump has the highest IQ bar for one President of the USA, I think it is 167 or so.
Most likely he paid for his "high IQ" certificate. You can buy anything if you have enough money. Just ask his "wife" Malaria.
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Wow, Its like a great big leftist circle jerk in this thread.
proof proof proof,..cmon show it to me. Theres plenty of info out there and if you bothered to do a little unbiased searching you would find many allegations with statement backed by affidavits. You dont have to believe it but its out there..But yeah I know, nothing will change the mind of the TrumpDerangedSyndrome mob.

At this point they are just allegations but if they present enough proof in the courts and it goes to the supreme court, watch out ! If not, well then you'll all get to revel in the socialist dream.

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Check out someone like Tim pool or David Rubin...among others on youtube who present both sides and in fact both of them consider themselves liberals centrists .
Affidavits are people saying what they believe to be true, they can be factual and can be just lies, they are not evidential
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nothing to do with the topic but...nope Za dom Spremni is an ancient croatian patriotic slogan..nice try though
No, it has something to do with your views, it’s a well known Nazi Salute from Croatia (who were Nazi Allies)👎

Enjoy you views, and your history Anto 👍
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I think at this point they know they have lost and it is more about making life difficult for the Democrats more than anything else. Maybe a miracle win.

Failing that keeping the base fired up for the runoffs to keep the senate and perhaps for the next mid terms and possibly next presidential election. I don't see Trumpy running again in 2024.

The problem is either way you now have a lot people who think the elections are rigged and that is not a good thing.

I don't envy Biden because I'm not sure he will be able to achieve much.

I'll miss the entertainment a bit though. Always thinking what's Trumpy gonna do today. In fact our very own Kevin Bloody Wilson even made a song about it. NSFW

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I think at this point they know they have lost and it is more about making life difficult for the Democrats more than anything else. Maybe a miracle win.

Failing that keeping the base fired up for the runoffs to keep the senate and perhaps for the next mid terms and possibly next presidential election. I don't see Trumpy running again in 2024.

The problem is either way you now have a lot people who think the elections are rigged and that is not a good thing.

I don't envy Biden because I'm not sure he will be able to achieve much.

I'll miss the entertainment a bit though. Always thinking what's Trumpy gonna do today. In fact our very own Kevin Bloody Wilson even made a song about it. NSFW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsKDO-r5STc
Biden a war monger, Trump sack everybody in the penatagon (over paid civilian ) and replaced them with Generals.. hopefully to stop a new war win Iran..
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Biden a war monger, Trump sack everybody in the penatagon (over paid civilian ) and replaced them with Generals.. hopefully to stop a new war win Iran..
It's been reported that he wanted options to strike Iran in his final weeks of his presidency. That seems more likely to start a war than not and it would be the Biden administration on the hook to deal with the fallout whether there was a war or not.

As I recall Dubya started the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq which left Obama on the hook to deal with the cluster**** that caused.

I'm glad we have no new wars because we have enough of the **** from the last few to deal with.
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It's been reported that he wanted options to strike Iran in his final weeks of his presidency. That seems more likely to start a war than not and it would be the Biden administration on the hook to deal with the fallout whether there was a war or not.

As I recall Dubya started the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq which left Obama on the hook to deal with the cluster**** that caused.

I'm glad we have no new wars because we have enough of the **** from the last few to deal with.
they wont leave Afghanistan, to much money (heroine) in it..
Trump pulled 2500 soldiers out yesterday..
dems complaining.
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they wont leave Afghanistan, to much money (heroine) in it..
Trump pulled 2500 soldiers out yesterday..
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His own chain of command were supposedly against it. The ones he appointed. Even McConnell is against it and that is on the record
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His own chain of command were supposedly against it. The ones he appointed. Even McConnell is against it and that is on the record
i work for rockwell.
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Yeah right. Your a bit late...............
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Yeah right. Your a bit late...............
who that for?? quote someone..
edit the post sent me somewhere else..

my response, is in the dem wont use phizer treatment until the handover of the president is complete, a month or so away...

come to china town it's safe.. polosi!!
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Wow, Its like a great big leftist circle jerk in this thread.
proof proof proof,..cmon show it to me. Theres plenty of info out there and if you bothered to do a little unbiased searching you would find many allegations with statement backed by affidavits. You dont have to believe it but its out there..But yeah I know, nothing will change the mind of the TrumpDerangedSyndrome mob.

At this point they are just allegations but if they present enough proof in the courts and it goes to the supreme court, watch out ! If not, well then you'll all get to revel in the socialist dream.

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Check out someone like Tim pool or David Rubin...among others on youtube who present both sides and in fact both of them consider themselves liberals centrists .
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Sorry mate.

You should update this, to make sure your Avatar is aligned with your beliefs 👍

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Oh Anto,

Sorry mate.

You should update this, to make sure your Avatar is aligned with your beliefs 👍

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you know nothing of my beliefs..this is the second time you want to start something that has nothing to do with the topic, I aint playing the game...or are you too dimwitted to understand that..?

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you know nothing of my beliefs..this is the second time you want to start something that has nothing to do with the topic, I aint playing the game...or are you too dimwitted to understand that..?

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you know nothing of my beliefs..this is the second time you want to start something that has nothing to do with the topic, I aint playing the game...or are you too dimwitted to understand that..?

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You don't see any parallels between what happened to the former Yugoslavia, and what is currently happening to the USA?

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Surprise Surprise...............

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Giuliani is so full of bullsh*t.. it was oozing out of his pores at the press conference today!



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It appears that Giuliani is hell bent on going off the cliff with the Trump train and his legacy with it.

Made his bones making RICO cases against the mob and as mayor in the aftermath of 9/11. But will now be remembered for being another clown in Trumps circus.
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and that blonde headed woman, was ranting and raving just like Giuliani, an interesting way to make your argument, although in her meanderings telling the press that it is not up to them to make a decision, all the time presenting 'some' facts to them - what a hypocrite, using the media to help make the case while bagging out the media in the same breath
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It's almost like... you guys are terrified that you're going to have to eat humble pie. Imagine that...
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