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Old 07-12-2020, 12:04 PM   #8101
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https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2768916

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Outcomes of Cardiovascular Magnetic Resonance Imaging in Patients Recently Recovered From Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

we demonstrate cardiac involvement in 78 patients (78%) and ongoing myocardial inflammation in 60 patients (60%) with recent COVID-19 illness, independent of preexisting conditions, severity and overall course of the acute illness, and the time from the original diagnosis. These findings indicate the need for ongoing investigation of the long-term cardiovascular consequences of COVID-19.
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What I'm starting to get annoyed with is that all the CBD pedestrian crossing traffic lights are still set to automatically allow people to cross.

Great during the day when there is a high chance someone will be waiting to cross but at 2 and 3am when all you do is wait at traffic lights for people to cross that don't exist.
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What I'm starting to get annoyed with is that all the CBD pedestrian crossing traffic lights are still set to automatically allow people to cross.

Great during the day when there is a high chance someone will be waiting to cross but at 2 and 3am when all you do is wait at traffic lights for people to cross that don't exist.


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What I'm starting to get annoyed with is that all the CBD pedestrian crossing traffic lights are still set to automatically allow people to cross.

Great during the day when there is a high chance someone will be waiting to cross but at 2 and 3am when all you do is wait at traffic lights for people to cross that don't exist.
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I do, too.

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What I'm starting to get annoyed with is that all the CBD pedestrian crossing traffic lights are still set to automatically allow people to cross.

Great during the day when there is a high chance someone will be waiting to cross but at 2 and 3am when all you do is wait at traffic lights for people to cross that don't exist.
After having seen what some people have been pressing those buttons with, I think I would accept the auto change and wait

Looks like all states are open to each other now. Great work EVERYONE!
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What I'm starting to get annoyed with is that all the CBD pedestrian crossing traffic lights are still set to automatically allow people to cross.

Great during the day when there is a high chance someone will be waiting to cross but at 2 and 3am when all you do is wait at traffic lights for people to cross that don't exist.
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The way the government, media and police acted you'd have thought these two German tourists had Ebola.

All this hyperventilation for a virus with a greater than 99% survivability rate. And people believe wearing face nappies somehow keeps them safe
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Data valid as at 23:59 GMT December 7th, 2020.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting.

7 new cases for Australia and 0 deaths so the CMR drops to 3.246%. NSW recorded 4 cases and Queensland recorded 3.

No new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.203% and active cases drop to 56.

The UK had a lower 14,718 cases yesterday. We know they are now not counting their mortalities by the WHO guidelines so we are going to ignore the CMR but even using their method they recorded 189 deaths.

Just over 184.5k new cases in the USA yesterday and 1,107 deaths sees CMR drop to 1.905% and active cases rise to 39.7% with the raw numbers rising and now over 6.0M. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:

The USA completes 209M, India 147M, UK 45M, Spain 24M and Phiippines 16M tests.

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Cyprus (416); and
Uganda (701) - 22% above the previous high

... recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive days.
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Ouch! $4700 fine for taking a 8 second stroll in the hotel corridors!

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I wonder what's going to happen to those fines issued in Vic, and how many of them actually will make it to court, assuming people won't pay.
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Data valid as at 23:59 GMT December 8th, 2020.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting.

15 new cases for Australia and 0 deaths so the CMR drops to 3.244%. NSW and Queensland recorded 6 cases each, the NT 2 and WA recorded 1.

7 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.199% and active cases drop to 54.

The UK had a lower 12,281 cases yesterday. We know they are now not counting their mortalities by the WHO guidelines so we are going to ignore the CMR but even using their method they recorded 599 deaths.

Just over 213k new cases in the USA yesterday and 1,563 deaths sees CMR drop to 1.888% and active cases rise to 39.7% with the raw numbers rising and now over 6.1M. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
Global cases pass 68M with the last 1M in 2 days;
Global deaths pass 1550k with the last 50k in 5 days;
North America passes 18M cases;
The USA completes 210M, India 148M, UK 45M, Russia 80M, UK 46M, France 27M, Turkey 20M and Canada 12M tests.

Cyprus (419);
Denmark (2,150); and
Turkey (33,918)

... recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive days.
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Another quarantine mishap by NSW Health has been revealed.
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The breach was identified by airline staff on July 14 and the man was forced into quarantine at a Melbourne hotel, where he later tested negative to COVID-19.

The incident, which occurred while Victoria was dealing with a surge in coronavirus cases, was revealed to The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald following a bungle at the weekend in which two German nationals were able to skip mandatory hotel quarantine in Sydney before boarding a domestic flight to Melbourne.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/a...08-p56lmq.html

This was in July. In the middle of Melbourne's second wave.

You have to wonder how many times these mishaps by NSW Health had occurred prior to this one as well?

A conspiracy theorist would even say NSW could have deliberately let overseas arrivals to travel to Melbourne. Wouldn't surprise me considering Scotty's response to Melbourne's second wave. Was the virus already widespread in the Melbourne community before the "hotel manager" at Rydges tested positive?
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Six people died in Pfizer’s late-stage trial of the COVID-19 vaccine, the US Food and Drug Administration has revealed just hours after Britain became the first country in the world to roll out the vaccine.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/people-...ns-11607515727

Two of the first people vaccinated in the U.K. on Tuesday with the Pfizer Inc. - BioNTech SE shot responded adversely to the injection, the country’s National Health Service said, prompting the regulator to issue new guidance warning those with a history of significant allergic reactions against having the inoculation.




Shut up and take this medicine we rushed into production. What could possibly go wrong?
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Data valid as at 23:59 GMT December 9th, 2020.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting.

6 new cases for Australia and 0 deaths so the CMR remains 3.244%. NSW recorded 2 cases, Tasmania recorded 3 and WA recorded 1. That's the first Tasmanian case in 119 days.

3 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.198% and active cases drop to 55.

The UK had a higher 16,578 cases yesterday. We know they are now not counting their mortalities by the WHO guidelines so we are going to ignore the CMR but even using their method they recorded 533 deaths.

Just under 210k new cases in the USA yesterday and 2,922 deaths sees CMR drop to 1.882% and active cases rise to 39.8% with the raw numbers rising and now over 6.2M. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

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Global cases pass 69M with the last 1M in 1 day;
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The USA completes 212M, India 149M, UK 45M, France 28M, Turkey 20M and Canada 12M tests.

Cyprus (419);
South Korea (686);
Uganda (930);
Moldova (1,766);
Denmark (2,558);
Lithuania (3,128); and
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Six people died in Pfizer’s late-stage trial of the COVID-19 vaccine, the US Food and Drug Administration has revealed just hours after Britain became the first country in the world to roll out the vaccine.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/people-...ns-11607515727

Two of the first people vaccinated in the U.K. on Tuesday with the Pfizer Inc. - BioNTech SE shot responded adversely to the injection, the country’s National Health Service said, prompting the regulator to issue new guidance warning those with a history of significant allergic reactions against having the inoculation.




Shut up and take this medicine we rushed into production. What could possibly go wrong?
Where is it compulsory? No one said there would not be side effects or 0 fatality rates.
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4 of the 6 were on placebo I believe.

But I agree, it is rushed and there are risks.

Although given the situation in some places, it might be a risk worth taking.
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Never let the truth get in the way of propaganda...
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The two in the vaccine group were older than 55. One died of cardiac arrest 62 days after vaccination and the other from arteriosclerosis, a condition where blood vessels can harden with age, three days after vaccination.

All deaths represent events that occur in the general population of the age groups where they occurred, at a similar rate,” the report said.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...before-meeting

Or to put in your peoples language... two people died WITH the vaccine, not BECAUSE of the vaccine.
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Or to put in your peoples language... two people died WITH the vaccine, not BECAUSE of the vaccine.
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Except the government will step in and make stuff like welfare payments, and various other stuff, unavailable to people who don't get it. Just watch. And overseas travel will probably be ruled out as well.

Basically force people into it. They have already thrown out suggestions of this.
Not quite sure where you get your info from but I believe that even before Covid 19 some countries wouldn't let you in without a vaccine of some kind.

As for compulsory vaccines, it would never get through parliament.

But I will make a note of your post so I can check on it in 12 months to see how we're going
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Not quite sure where you get your info from but I believe that even before Covid 19 some countries wouldn't let you in without a vaccine of some kind.

As for compulsory vaccines, it would never get through parliament.

But I will make a note of your post so I can check on it in 12 months to see how we're going
Where did I say they were going to make it compulsory?

If you read it properly I didn't say that at all. Although I do believe they will try to force people into getting it, by denying them certain things if they don't comply. Like welfare.
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Not quite sure where you get your info from but I believe that even before Covid 19 some countries wouldn't let you in without a vaccine of some kind.

As for compulsory vaccines, it would never get through parliament.

But I will make a note of your post so I can check on it in 12 months to see how we're going

No need for countries to deny entry without a vaccine, the little gay leprechaun at Qantas will get you first....before you leave home.....

I love the BS coming out of the ABC that a little British 95 year old was the first person in the world to get a COVID vaccine.....

Hmm...me thinks the Russians got there first...but we will selectively forget that....(but it is the British, they love writing their own version of history for self promotion)

I won't be injecting either.
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If this China flu was so bad, wouldnt you think the 1st people to have the vaccine, should be doctors & other essential service, police, politicians etc... not making sense as usual!

So i suppose most on here will be lining up for the jab???
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If this China flu was so bad, wouldnt you think the 1st people to have the vaccine, should be doctors & other essential service, police, politicians etc... not making sense as usual!

So i suppose most on here will be lining up for the jab???
I don't see the need to rush given that we can't fly outside Australia and the gov-mint isn't likely to reopen the borders until 2022 at the earliest.

That gives us some time to watch how everyone else in the world goes with it and for any bugs to be ironed out in the first generation vaccines. We're in an enviable situation really.

After that, sure, I'll be in line for a jab. And I want to see the state and federal gov-mints actively penalise those who refuse the jab with welfare/tax/travel restrictions. Although I suspect that people who won't jab probably couldn't afford an airfare anyway...
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+1 roll it out first for our most vulnerable currently residing in correctional facilities
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So i suppose most on here will be lining up for the jab???
I thought that was the intent. Front line workers and vulnerable to get it first.

There was even talks about CEOs having priority, because its important that they are allowed to travel and mingle with other CEOs
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First reports from Britain look promising.

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So i suppose most on here will be lining up for the jab???
You are not wanting it to make sense.

Did you vaccinate for the other jabs historically given out in Australia?

Where did all these anti-vaccers come from all of a sudden?

As above, we are so lucky we are not in the EU, we are down at the **** end of the world in blissful isolation and we can sit back and watch the next 6 months unfold and other countries fall over each other to get it done first.

Id imagine peoples thoughts would be very different if you lived in the US or EU, actually, anywhere other than AUS and NZ.
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I see what you did there....
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