FG X, The Last EVER Falcon - Picture & Discussion Thread

[Nikked]

What is the Falcon "signature"?


Did the AU have it? Did EA have it? Did...


4-door, RWD, 3-box design = Falcon

[P6LTD351]

Originally Posted by Bobman

Yes, that's what I wrote a while back only to be shot down.

It doesn't have the Falcon signature or resemblance due to strong US design influence.

Did the XB have it? You know, the car that is so Aussie it looks almost exactly like an early 70s mustang?

Or the XD that looks like a Granada.

There is no signature Falcon look. Our first Falcons were a global look anyway.

[Nikked]

EA-EF?

[Auslandau]

Have to agree. Every new model Falcon (not interim models XE, EL, ED etc) starts again with a blank canvas and reinvents the Falcon look.

If anything the FGX is more Falcon and especially Ford than the AU, BA, etc because it still has the bulk and side profile From the AU through to FG.

[P6LTD351]

I think some of us Aussies forget that Ford is and will always be an American company. Our Aussie team have done well over the years to interpret those international designs specific to our market.

[Bobman]

[QUOTE=Nikked;5196201]EA-EF?

Looks nothing like it.

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by Auslandau

If anything the FGX is more Falcon and especially Ford than the AU, BA, etc because it still has the bulk and side profile From the AU through to FG.

This is what I find silly...

• The car is 80% FG from the side
• Headlights have the same basic BFIII/FG shape...
• The grille is a big throwback to the XW "power mouth"
• The rear gives the Falcon an uppermarket look that was reserved for the LWB derivatives, the chrome strip in the boot is very NU Fairlane...
• The Bonnet has a big bulgy profile that would look proud on a XA-C...

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by Bobman

Looks nothing like it.

• Doors open up into the roof (every Falcon before the EA and after the FG have the window frame recessed)
• Side mould treatment is a dead ringer for EA-ED
• Bonnet on the Scorpio would look at home on an EA
• Waist swage line used on the EA-EL
• Mid-located taillights, just like the EA-EL

Not that the detract from the E-series, but it just shows that the corporate look as always crept into the Falcon range...

Even the XA was a rejected proposal for the Maverick...even then, the TC Cortina looked like a mini XA

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by block58

Has it already been confirmed that XRs will get a black roof lining?

If not, the XR6 EcoLPi I drove by today had it, however the pillars were still beige. Can assume that is just pre-production though.

Pre-production. They were a bit of a mish mash of parts.

Originally Posted by Bobman

Will there still be a G6ET?

Haven't heard much at all and no photos seen either.

AFAIK yes there will be, but i'm yet to see one. But seen G6ET on paperwork.

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

AFAIK yes there will be, but i'm yet to see one. But seen G6ET on paperwork.

I'll put a goddamn I.E.D. in Bob G's office ensuite if there's no G6ET

[ZGM86]

That black XR8 rear end looks FANTASTIC, I am in love with that!

Originally Posted by P6LTD351

My AU XR8 is black and just looks so good when clean

Mine too, it's a pity though that "when clean" are the keywords there haha!

[cortinagt]

AFAIK yes there will be, but i'm yet to see one. But seen G6ET on paperwork.[/QUOTE]


So the model to disappear will be the G6 then?

[NX74205]

Originally Posted by Nikked

• Doors open up into the roof (every Falcon before the EA and after the FG have the window frame recessed)
• Side mould treatment is a dead ringer for EA-ED
• Bonnet on the Scorpio would look at home on an EA
• Waist swage line used on the EA-EL
• Mid-located taillights, just like the EA-EL

And if those cars had a Hofmeister kink in the C pillar like every Falcon from EA onwards (incidentally, I consider that to be a 'Falcon' look, among other things) then the resemblance will become more obvious.

I think that there is a definite 'Falcon look' in addition to Ford's global styling cues at the time, blended seamlessly. For me, the 'Falcon look' is the C pillar kink and glasshouse with a low waist line extending below the base of a steeply raked windscreen. I think the FGX does look like a Falcon. After all, the doors haven't been changed at all.

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by fgpsi

looks better than GTS

image

Nope, it looks ok, but nothing spectacular.
But for a final car I hope it sells well.

[Blem]

Originally Posted by Windsor220

Is it just me or is this the first Falcon that doesn't really look like a Falcon if you get what I mean.

Agree but with the chrome strip painted out it doesn't look so Mondeo.
I may have judged the front profile to harsh by thinking it looked to much like a Lancer.
I'm used to panda eyes making the lights on my F6 blend. Had a good lool at a XR6 today & not a huge difference to the new model.
It just may look better in the flesh...with NO chrome rear strip

[NanoDuke]

Now all we need is for Ford to unveil the colour palette they've gone with

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by Bobman

Will there still be a G6ET?

Haven't heard much at all and no photos seen either.

Yeah its there. 3 have been built just recently.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Time for the photo guys to go hunting G6ETs

[Walt Kowalski]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Actually as they are all sharing bumpers etc then it just does my head in why a G8E was not made.

Front end styling would be G6ET, driveline is XR8 and you could even use the rear diffuser from the XR8 if you wanted too...its all in the pile of parts along the production line already.

Me too.

Plus:

XR8 SC Ute please.

Same logic. Creative use of parts bin = niche cars that will sell.

Who cares about taxi packs. Even the cabbies drive Camry Hybrid now.

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by Walt Kowalski

Me too.

Plus:

XR8 SC Ute please.

Same logic. Creative use of parts bin = niche cars that will sell.

Who cares about taxi packs. Even the cabbies drive Camry Hybrid now.

I agree with you agreeing with me......but..in the case of the ute there is something bigger going on there because they wouldnt have left it at 315 for all this time if they didnt need to.

What I dont get is how much less torque is the XR6T or the F6310 ute making that the 335 5.0 is and how does that +Nm's effect the car?

And does that mean that anyone modding a ute above 315 is actually doing something potentially dangerous? Id say no because we have plenty of evidence that utes can be pushed pretty hard.

My gut feeling is it comes down to some internal constraint put on FoA.

[csv8]

No photos of Tezza's ???

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by Polyal

I agree with you agreeing with me......but..in the case of the ute there is something bigger going on there because they wouldnt have left it at 315 for all this time if they didnt need to.

What I dont get is how much less torque is the XR6T or the F6310 ute making that the 315 5.0 is and how does that +Nm's effect the car?

And does that mean that anyone modding a ute above 335 is actually doing something potenitally dangerous? Id say no because we have plenty of evidence that utes can be pushed pretty hard.

My gut feeling is it comes down to some internal constraint put on FoA.

Its a issue with the rear end.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by Walt Kowalski

Same logic. Creative use of parts bin = niche cars that will sell.

Not a good idea.
I've got an XG ute and it's a bastard trying to find some parts

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by DASH GT

Its a issue with the rear end.

If so thats weird as I would have picked the Live Axle to be more durable?

F6310 Sedan - 565Nm @ 1950-5200rpm (Im assuming the ute has the same spec)
335 Sedan - 570Nm @ 2200-5500rpm
315 Ute - 545Nm @ 2000-5500rpm

Now they are just advertised figures...theres not much in it to make the 335 Ute a no go?

[Gobes32]

Surely a BA/BF Typhoon ute is proof the live rear axle can handle the power?

[Smoke Pursuit]

Not from what I have been told.

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by GasOLane

Not a good idea.
I've got an XG ute and it's a bastard trying to find some parts

Yes, try finding a console lid at the moment :(

[tranquilized]

Originally Posted by Polyal

If so thats weird as I would have picked the Live Axle to be more durable?

F6310 Sedan - 565Nm @ 1950-5200rpm (Im assuming the ute has the same spec)
335 Sedan - 570Nm @ 2200-5500rpm
315 Ute - 545Nm @ 2000-5500rpm

Now they are just advertised figures...theres not much in it to make the 335 Ute a no go?

Perhaps it has more to do with minimum refinement levels more than durability? So much power through that antiquated rear end would make quite the monster that only an enthusiast would want/should be driving on the street. Just a thought.

Originally Posted by GasOLane

Not a good idea.
I've got an XG ute and it's a bastard trying to find some parts

Ahh yep, same problem with my XH...

[DFB FGXR6]

The reason for the ute not getting the full 335 power was explained in the Boss 5.0 forum area, directly from the powertrain engineer responsible for that engine. Flexing of the axle and the way the 5.0 SC produces its torque. They had a solution for it but time and money run out.

[V8UTE]

Originally Posted by Polyal

I agree with you agreeing with me......but..in the case of the ute there is something bigger going on there because they wouldnt have left it at 315 for all this time if they didnt need to.

What I dont get is how much less torque is the XR6T or the F6310 ute making that the 335 5.0 is and how does that +Nm's effect the car?

And does that mean that anyone modding a ute above 315 is actually doing something potentially dangerous? Id say no because we have plenty of evidence that utes can be pushed pretty hard.

My gut feeling is it comes down to some internal constraint put on FoA.

Personally I would have been more than happy with the 315 in the ute. It would still be a XR8 Ute which I am guessing is what the Falcon ute guys are wanting. I know it's been said that V8 utes havn't been selling but this last Falcon offering a XR8 may have seen better sales. It's still offering the Ford faithful what some are wanting too.
I know I'm wasting my time but I would give my left nut for one. Hell I'm not using it much lately so maybe I can head into Ford HQ and stick it on their counter. Take my leftie and make me a ute dammit.