FG X, The Last EVER Falcon - Picture & Discussion Thread - Page 284

Black F6 · 27-08-2014, 12:31 PM

having seen the new xr8, i wont be selling my FG F6 to get into one, thats for sure

FGX-302 · 27-08-2014, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by richo77

This is my concern too. I'll be ready to buy in August next year but by the sounds of those numbers I might be too late.

I would say best to wait till early next year have a chat with your local ford dealer for some info and put a deposit down. A nice deposit should show faith in your purchase and secure a vehicle.. Maybe lol

Cashie · 27-08-2014, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MercurySilver

so do we actually have any def pics and stats yet?
this thread is getting painful to follow with no info
all ive seen is the *** end that looks like a jag

There's plenty of pics in this thread of real cars (XT, XR6, XR6t, XR8 and G6E) out in the wild in Melbourne.

FGX335 · 27-08-2014, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Black F6

having seen the new xr8, i wont be selling my FG F6 to get into one, thats for sure

The more people that think like that, the longer I have to get in a position to get one. The interior has really helped me in that regard too...

All depending on my job status, otherwise I would have put a deposit down already.

FGX-302 · 27-08-2014, 01:11 PM

From one of the last interior pics does anyone else think they may have modified the drivers seat rails or something, would that be a way of getting around expensive crash testing ect?? .maybe it's just the pic but it looks slightly lower.. Don't think there was a review on the FG that didn't have a whinge about driving position the sooks..

HO 3 · 27-08-2014, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by fordomatic

If they do price them at 60k i dont think they will sell as many as they think. I know the average price for an FG GT was 64-66 drive away. I know i wouldn't pay 60k for just an XR8, 50k on the other hand......

.........good luck with that one........at 50k they would be an absolute steal for a new premium model that will have quite a few updates!

Cheers Mick

FGX335 · 27-08-2014, 01:49 PM

An insider said SS V Redline pricing, and they start from $51,990 RRP. Interesting times...

Alan D Segal · 27-08-2014, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FGX335

An insider said SS V Redline pricing, and they start from $51,990 RRP. Interesting times...

We'll that would be about $56k drive away, plus whatever options you put on it. Closer to $60k on road I reckon. I'm expecting the XR8 to be closer to $60k drive away, than $50k drive away. Obviously you can negotiate a better price, but I reckon that'll be list price.

elfinke · 27-08-2014, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan D Segal

We'll that would be about $56k drive away, plus whatever options you put on it. Closer to $60k on road I reckon. I'm expecting the XR8 to be closer to $60k drive away, than $50k drive away. Obviously you can negotiate a better price, but I reckon that'll be list price.

I mean, what you say makes a lot of sense, but I'm not interested at that price.

amiers · 27-08-2014, 05:09 PM

I not sure whether to jump early or wait if there is a final "special", im going manual for the first time in 20 years so maybe I can wait a little longer than most.

NanoDuke · 27-08-2014, 05:48 PM

But how many with manuals are they building?
Wait and you might be limited for choice in the future.

~Duke

futura · 27-08-2014, 07:19 PM

If anyone thinks they are going to get a new FG X XR8 with the GT motor Miami, Brembo brakes (front), 19" wheels for $50,000 drive away

They are dreaming.

HO 3 · 27-08-2014, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by futura

If anyone thinks they are going to get a new FG X XR8 with the GT motor Miami, Brembo brakes (front), 19" wheels for $50,000 drive away

They are dreaming.

I don't think anyone was talking 50k drive away.........more like 50k plus on roads, personally I thought the spend would of been closer to 60k plus on roads for leather and the good brakes, time will tell.

Cheers Mick

sxckevo · 27-08-2014, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by futura

If anyone thinks they are going to get a new FG X XR8 with the GT motor Miami, Brembo brakes (front), 19" wheels for $50,000 drive away

They are dreaming.

You're just afraid it could be better value than your GT-F.... ;)

This is purely a joke, I'm envious of your car!

Adamz Ghia · 27-08-2014, 08:18 PM

If there's 2500 autos for the XR6T and XR8, would the G6ET be included in that as well...?

Gobes32 · 27-08-2014, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamz Ghia

If there's 2500 autos for the XR6T and XR8, would the G6ET be included in that as well...?

It shares the same driveline as XR6T so I would guess it is included.

elfinke · 27-08-2014, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by futura

If anyone thinks they are going to get a new FG X XR8 with the GT motor Miami, Brembo brakes (front), 19" wheels for $50,000 drive away

They are dreaming.

Call me Roy Orbison, baby.

Road_Warrior · 27-08-2014, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by futura

If anyone thinks they are going to get a new FG X XR8 with the GT motor Miami, Brembo brakes (front), 19" wheels for $50,000 drive away

They are dreaming.

Don't forget LCT

2242100 · 27-08-2014, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DASH GT

You should know better if you worked there.

As for the F6 it only dynos up at around 280 rwkw. Thats a far cry from 330 rwkw that the GT pushes out on a dyno. So for you to say there is next to no difference is silly.

My Pursuit struggles to get traction with the live rear axel setup, and i know a few guys that have broken tailshafts on F6's and GS's. So to think that its any other reason other then the rear end is a bit silly when its a known problem internally and externally.

Utes have always come second to sedans, as per why we have no XR8 ute in the new model. They don't have enough motors or gearboxes to accommodate everyone so the Ute missed out.

I think this is one rare case where it's better to compare torque than power.

Certainly the GT is producing quite a bit more power than the F6, but from what I've seen it's mainly achieving that by hanging onto a similar amount of torque to higher revs than the F6.
Keep in mind that when an engines power is being calculated, you're basically multiplying torque by engine speed (revs). So if for example there is the same torque at 15% more revs, then there is 15% more power, but in both cases if the torque is the same, then the angle of the diff pinion under hard acceleration should be the same (assuming the equivalent gearing).

As we know the claimed torque figures are very similar for both engines, but a lot of people would probably argue that the F6 pushes even harder at low revs in the real world, with more torque than the GT.
It seems to me that maybe the F6 was at more risk of pinion angle problems than the GT would be.

So I'm finding it hard to understand the reasoning as well. Also I've heard of one case of a stock FG Turbo twisting a tailshaft.

HO 3 · 27-08-2014, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sxckevo

You're just afraid it could be better value than your GT-F.... ;)

This is purely a joke, I'm envious of your car!

We'll it does represent fantastic value as long as having the GT brand/name plate is not important to you and if your in the market for an everyday performance car daily driver, that will be used and parked anywhere, instead of owning a long term modern garage queen that still costs you money

Cheers Mick

CSV_LS1 · 27-08-2014, 09:41 PM

Saw a G6E near the factory today going in the opposite direction. Front looked real real nice and upmarket and actually gave me the impression of a more compact car. The rear was a glance without getting into an accident but it looked kind of awkward but not bad. Will save judgement till I get a better look.

Bossxr8 · 27-08-2014, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mytchal86

Assuming they are a similar price what does the mustang have over the falcon? Not having a go at your views mate just a legit question. In my opinion the falcon is an easy winner. 5seats, big boot space, our 5.0 is blown with potential for so much more as does the I6T at minimal expense. Great refreshed look with latest ford tech (sync2)..Unless 2 doors are your thing I struggle to find anything better about the mustang. Guess we'll have a better indication when they go head to head from factory for the first time here in AUS... Can't wait!!!!! Ps can't imagine the mustangs power figures being so understated like the falcons force fed donks.

I recently saw a 5.0 Coyote from a Mustang on an engine dyno, supposed to make 412 hp from the factory, it was actually making 465hp. They are just as underrated as the Miami's are.

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Originally Posted by amiers

I not sure whether to jump early or wait if there is a final "special", im going manual for the first time in 20 years so maybe I can wait a little longer than most.

There will be no final special, the XR8 is already getting all the good stuff so there is nothing else they can add to it.

FGX-302 · 27-08-2014, 10:39 PM

True hey wouldn't expect that from N/A more the better though.. It may give it to the falcon in a straight line more than I thought than.
Do u know if there will be any options (leather seats/different wheels) on the XR8 or one package offered?

kazawaki · 27-08-2014, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 2242100

I agree, the reason doesn't make any sense to me either.
If anything I believe both the F6 and the XR6T Utes would probably have more torque down low than both Miami engines once the Turbo's are spooled up.
If it was OK for the Turbo's I can't see why it wouldn't be OK for the 335 motor in a UTE.

Mate I have a Limited edition pursuit ute and I am more than happy with the way it goes and putting a 335 in it would be overkill,i am wondering every time I get in it weather I will have a licence when I get home.

2242100 · 27-08-2014, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kazawaki

Mate I have a Limited edition pursuit ute and I am more than happy with the way it goes and putting a 335 in it would be overkill,i am wondering every time I get in it weather I will have a licence when I get home.

There's no doubt all the blown Falcons are rocket ships

**Polyal** · 28-08-2014, 06:34 AM

I dont think it will be for sale long enough to fit in a special...in retrospec maybe it should have been coined with Sprint from the start. While I guess this spec is the standard FGX XR8 its still a pretty hot version.

GT-GTF · 28-08-2014, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

I recently saw a 5.0 Coyote from a Mustang on an engine dyno, supposed to make 412 hp from the factory, it was actually making 465hp. They are just as underrated as the Miami's are.

There will be no final special, the XR8 is already getting all the good stuff so there is nothing else they can add to it.

They could always add stickers and call it a Sprint or a GT!

NAK302 · 28-08-2014, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

I dont think it will be for sale long enough to fit in a special...in retrospec maybe it should have been coined with Sprint from the start. While I guess this spec is the standard FGX XR8 its still a pretty hot version.

i'm not so sure mate. i believe the xr6/8 moniker is common enough for the average non enthusiest to relate to, whereas the general public wouldn't know what a sprint is.
i'm hoping the xr8 is as hot as being pushed around the forum at the moment

**Polyal** · 28-08-2014, 07:22 AM

Its all but a GT-R spec...which IMO is just as fast as a GTF on any given day.

Sioso · 28-08-2014, 09:58 AM

I like the front end of the new XR8 and the rear end is growing on me but that spoiler looks terrible, reminds me of a vx ss.
It draws attention away from the lines of the car, rear diffuser and quad exhausts.
A boot lip spoiler or no spoiler would look better IMHO.