Covid 19 -

[FairmontGS]

Victoria records 10 new locally acquired cases - attempts to thieve NSW zombies as Victorian

Yesterday there were 10 new local cases reported, 2 cases internationally acquired and in hotel quarantine. Thanks to all who were tested, 18,337 results were received.

Of the 10 local cases reported, 2 have already been announced yesterday by NSW. These 2 cases were tested in NSW but are Victorian residents and so are being managed by Victoria.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-...toria/13026820

[Tickford.]

NSW couple flee officers at Melbourne Airport after being told they will need to isolate.

The pair disembarked a flight from Canberra just before 11am on New Year's Day.

"The pair then ran from the officer, fleeing the airport and were picked up by a vehicle outside."

The 26-year-old man and 24-year-old woman normally reside in NSW are believed to be in the Sunbury area.



https://www.9news.com.au/national/ns...2-0bc324fe0081

#NSWCovidiots

[Tassie f100]

I am really glad that I live in the little southern island,we have basically been Covid free for about 6 months.Couple of cases,but they have been picked up and quarantined as soon as they arrived

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

I am really glad that I live in the little southern island,we have basically been Covid free for about 6 months.Couple of cases,but they have been picked up and quarantined as soon as they arrived

Yes, a great job by all down there. 6+ months Covid-19 free is a fantastic result.

Speaking of Covid-19 in Tasmania, remind me again why and where that last cluster originated from?

[Tassie f100]

Sorry I am not real sure on detail,but,I think they were Australians of Indian descent returning from an overseas trip

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

Sorry I am not real sure on detail,but,I think they were Australians of Indian descent returning from an overseas trip

Oh... is that what your local government/media was reporting at the time?

We on the mainland were told something different. Articles below from April this year during the last outbreak in Tasmania.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-...ended/12175694

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-...break/12198990


How strange that even the locals weren't made aware of the origins of the cluster in Tasmania?

[T3rminator]

NSW put rest of country at risk by 'playing the odds' on masks, AMA says

https://www.theage.com.au/national/n...01-p56r91.html

Gambling with people's health.

[Tickford.]

NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard at today's Covid-19 update press conference: "Thanks for your interest, we're off!"

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

I'm quite surprised. They said 25% of those in quarantine are non-residents so I'm guessing they are trying to stop it getting it out of hand so they can manage.

I'm not sure how they will enforce it though because apart from mentioning a police presence on the Federal Hwy there are other routes in.

Truth be told, the Vic border is not really 100% enforceable either. There are 30 odd "main" roads going in and out being manned. But there are numerous other back roads. Caradvice has 58 listed (https://www.caradvice.com.au/865720/...der-crossings/).

But I heard its something like 70 odd if you have a 4x4.

Vic does not have the resources to man them all 24/7. We need help....but its not coming....so we do the best we can....then cop the blame .

[Tassie f100]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Oh... is that what your local government/media was reporting at the time?

We on the mainland were told something different. Articles below from April this year during the last outbreak in Tasmania.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-...ended/12175694

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-...break/12198990


How strange that even the locals weren't made aware of the origins of the cluster in Tasmania?

We were well aware that the Multiple cases on the Nth West in April were from the cruise ship,but,the most recent a couple of weeks back weren’t related to those.

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Vic does not have the resources to man them all 24/7. We need help....but its not coming....so we do the best we can....then cop the blame .

How about asking the ADF for help? Surely they can spare VIC a few hundred personnel to help with manning all the border crossings?

[MITCHAY]

NSW has mandated masks from midnight in the hot zones.

Originally Posted by Tickford.

How about asking the ADF for help? Surely they can spare VIC a few hundred personnel to help with manning all the border crossings?

ADF has already said they are not going enforce state borders due to other priorities.

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

We were well aware that the Multiple cases on the Nth West in April were from the cruise ship,but,the most recent a couple of weeks back weren’t related to those.

A couple of weeks back?? You mentioned 6 months free of Covid-19. Now it's only a couple of weeks back?

We on the mainland have not heard of this new cluster in Tasmania. Have you made the authorities aware that there's community transmission which was started by "people of Indian decent"? Community transmission is bad enough, but if it's from people of Indian decent then that makes it even worse.. yeah?

If you're referring to returning travellers who are in hotel/home quarantine that have tested positive, and the authorities are well aware of, that is irrelevant. It's not community based transmission. Which is key. Every State and Territory in Australia is currently dealing with overseas arrivals who have tested positive and are in quarantine. Even people of Indian decent, so you have nothing to be "outraged" about.

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT January 1st, 2021.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting.

22 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR is 3.198%. NSW recorded 5 cases, Victoria recorded 8 and SA recorded 4.

No new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.156% and active cases 49.

The UK had 53,285 cases yesterday and 1,099 deaths.

Just over 234k new cases in the USA yesterday and 3,539 deaths sees CMR fall to 1.732% and active cases at 39% with the raw numbers rising and now over 7.9M. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points: (with limited reporting yesterday)
Global cases pass 84M with the last 1M in 2 days;
Global cases set a new daily high of 745,018 (31/12);
The USA completes 254M, India 173M, Russia 91M and Israel 8M tests.

Only -
Ireland (1,753);
UAE (1,856); and
Japan (4,091);

... recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

ADF has already said they are not going enforce state borders due to other priorities.

Just checked, and you are correct.

Minister for Defence Linda Reynolds has stated that the reason VIC was not offered the requested ADF personnel was due to bushfire preparation.

With all of the bushfires that are yet to ignite - given the extreme hot and dry conditions (droughts even), across the country, I think this is a fair decision. ADF personnel would be more helpful fighting these huge bushfires that are yet to ignite, than man borders to help prevent a third wave in VIC. Which, if it happens, would probably destroy the local governments chances of re-election.

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

NSW has mandated masks from midnight in the hot zones.

Too little too late don't you think? And only in the hot zones?? What's the point of that?

So... it's raining here, but there's no need for an umbrella. Tick, tock. Almost everyone here is now already soaking wet. Ok then, now you can ALL start to use an umbrella. Tick, tock. It's starting to rain everywhere else now. But they also don't have to use an umbrella. Let's just wait until almost everyone is soaking wet, then start using an umbrella.

Yep. Makes perfect sense.

Reactive. Not proactive.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Just checked, and you are correct.

Minister for Defence Linda Reynolds has stated that the reason VIC was not offered the requested ADF personnel was due to bushfire preparation.

With all of the bushfires that are yet to ignite - given the extreme hot and dry conditions (droughts even), across the country, I think this is a fair decision. ADF personnel would be more helpful fighting these huge bushfires that are yet to ignite, than man borders to help prevent a third wave in VIC. Which, if it happens, would probably destroy the local governments chances of re-election.

Hang on a minute, last year the ADF said they are NOT allowed to fight bushfires.

Oh and by the way, thanks Glady, you dumb F*** for sitting on your hands for so long. Diamond Standard.

[MITCHAY]

The states were advised in September that the ADF was not going to deploy to borders and it was up to them to manage if they wanted to close borders. Unlikely that they will deploy unless we see a massive outbreak where it is beyond the capabilities of the states to handle.

The ADF is preparing for floods and cyclones more so than bushfires this year. They actually just deployed to Fiji after they got smashed by a Cat 5 cyclone.

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

Dan Andrews is slammed for refusing to cancel his holiday plans as a third Covid outbreak threatens Victoria

Wonder what the Murdoch fluffer headlines will be from tomorrow?

Will we see similar words such as "slammed" and "refusing" used for the Premier who is going on holidays during an ever increasing Covid outbreak in her state?

[FairmontGS]

Pair who allegedly absconded from Melbourne Airport report to police in Goulburn, NSW

Two people who allegedly absconded from Melbourne Airport after being told they would have to quarantine for 14 days have handed themselves in to police in regional New South Wales.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-...olice/13027572

[MITCHAY]

There really are some idiots going around

Come from NSW to Canberra and then fly to Melbourne and do a runner when they already know who you are only to end up back in NSW

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

Pair who allegedly absconded from Melbourne Airport report to police in Goulburn, NSW

Two people who allegedly absconded from Melbourne Airport after being told they would have to quarantine for 14 days have handed themselves in to police in regional New South Wales.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-...olice/13027572

Cheaper to go home and self isolate rather being stuck in Melbourne's mandority Hotel quarantine paying big $$$

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by Officemanager

Cheaper to go home and self isolate rather being stuck in Melbourne's mandority Hotel quarantine paying big $$$

Nope, $19k in fines and possible further action. Hotel quarantine is looking like a bargain

[Tassie f100]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

A couple of weeks back?? You mentioned 6 months free of Covid-19. Now it's only a couple of weeks back?

We on the mainland have not heard of this new cluster in Tasmania. Have you made the authorities aware that there's community transmission which was started by "people of Indian decent"? Community transmission is bad enough, but if it's from people of Indian decent then that makes it even worse.. yeah?

If you're referring to returning travellers who are in hotel/home quarantine that have tested positive, and the authorities are well aware of, that is irrelevant. It's not community based transmission. Which is key. Every State and Territory in Australia is currently dealing with overseas arrivals who have tested positive and are in quarantine. Even people of Indian decent, so you have nothing to be "outraged" about.

Well some one who doesn’t read what I posted you seem to make the proverbial mountain out of molehill.I said we were basically (meaning almost) Covid free for 6 months.As for the people I stated exactly as the health dept said,they were a family of 2 adults and 2 childen who were Australian citizens of Indian descent who had returned from an overseas trip.By the way I am NOT enraged about anything because the health dept took appropriate measures to ensure there was no chance of transmission

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard at today's Covid-19 update press conference: "Thanks for your interest, we're off!"

https://twitter.com/Qldaah/status/1345174109353771011

Arrogance at it's best.

Don't think Dr Chant is 100%. Coughing during the press conference.

[FairmontGS]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Nope, $19k in fines and possible further action. Hotel quarantine is looking like a bargain

Or never go back to Victoria and skip the fines

I assume the fines will catch up with them eventually when the dust settles.

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

Well some one who doesn’t read what I posted you seem to make the proverbial mountain out of molehill.

For someone who didn't read my post properly, you seem to have climbed up a molehill thinking it's a mountain.

Read it again...

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Speaking of Covid-19 in Tasmania, remind me again why and where that last cluster originated from?

I said cluster. Not returning overseas travellers. Two children and their mother testing positive (December 09) in quarantine does not equate to a cluster.

[T3rminator]

Well well...this is interesting.

You have the Murdoch gang blaming the "new variant" on the UK......then you have other media outlets suggesting the "new variant" was in the US since last October. It has rarely been mentioned that the "new variant" was linked to a Brazil strain.

Highly infectious coronavirus mutation from UK now tearing across US
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-...023f524434b3a2

"A terrifying coronavirus mutation that originated in the UK has made its way to the US, sparking fears of an even deadlier crisis to come."


New coronavirus variant may have been in US since October
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-since-october

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by wodahs

yer i understand the point and need for good regular testing
but good isnt using one of these
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauke...7-20/206260202
Laser Temperature Gun Infrared 10:1 Thermometer
Measure surface temperatures from -22⁰F to 752⁰F
High contrast LCD display for clear readings
Not Intended for Testing Human Temperature

Still, i can guarantee it's just as accurate as the made for purpose cheaparsedchinese one we use, you can take multiple readings within minutes and get wildly variable readings lol, my Flukes better than this

https://tellmebaby.com.au/product/ph...%20or%20normal.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Nope, $19k in fines and possible further action. Hotel quarantine is looking like a bargain

Nah won't happen as it was Victorian issue and they are in NSW now, by the way the courts are too soft especially when a sob story will be given.
Look how most of the lockdown fines in Vic have been rescinded recently, that tells you how soft govco is.
Cheers.