Why arent cars selling? - Page 3

Grippy · 03-07-2014, 09:50 AM

At the end of the day, if the phone isn't ringing the asking price is probably too high. A car is only worth what buyers are willing to pay.

Smoke Pursuit · 03-07-2014, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Grippy

At the end of the day, if the phone isn't ringing the asking price is probably too high. A car is only worth what buyers are willing to pay.

The thing is none of them are selling. I have all the Territory Titanium's within QLD saved on my carsales account, not one of them has sold.

Mine is the cheapest for the kms and standard equipment.

I have dropped the price again, i'll see what happens.

Glad im not a car dealer with a yard full of them.

ebv8 · 03-07-2014, 10:13 AM

being the cheapest on the market sometime hurts your chances, some people think there is something wrong with it
i just sold a VY S pac cheap, lots of women called up and you could tell they kept hinting that there must be something wrong with it, anyway first guy who looked at the car bought it without test driving it
my dad just sold a 2012 Pajero (ex cop car) he bought it cheap from the auctions and then thought he'd buy a brand new paj so he did and sold the old one, people looked at the car and when they asked why he is selling, his reason was bought a new one, the people ran away in droves, so he hid the new one and told people he was downsizing and a guy came from interstate and bought it sight unseen
his was the cheapest on carsales by $5k....maybe he should have upped the price

Vesper Martini · 03-07-2014, 11:25 AM

I don't think I want to go through the second hand market again. Ill be trading and expecting to get nothing. kind of why I'm still driving an 05..

I really think it comes down to luck you price seems right.
car sales for 2011 7 seat Titanium's produced 60 results, most of them are quite low mileage too Petrol's & diesels going at similar prices

SumoDog68 · 03-07-2014, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ebv8

being the cheapest on the market sometime hurts your chances, some people think there is something wrong with it
i just sold a VY S pac cheap, lots of women called up and you could tell they kept hinting that there must be something wrong with it, anyway first guy who looked at the car bought it without test driving it
my dad just sold a 2012 Pajero (ex cop car) he bought it cheap from the auctions and then thought he'd buy a brand new paj so he did and sold the old one, people looked at the car and when they asked why he is selling, his reason was bought a new one, the people ran away in droves, so he hid the new one and told people he was downsizing and a guy came from interstate and bought it sight unseen
his was the cheapest on carsales by $5k....maybe he should have upped the price

Sales process is based on lots of variables and hard to logically explain. People buy on feel or a colour some even buy a car without a test drive ??!!
One would think that upgrading to a new model of the same car means that owner was happy with a car ? Why would that be a problem.
I bought my car in Brisbane and drove it to Melbourne - seller had series 1 , 2 and 3 in his possesion :-)

Alan D Segal · 03-07-2014, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mcnews

But still, a great car, and probably the best thing ever made in this country when held up against the best cars in the world in its segment.

LMAO now I've heard everything.

Smoke Pursuit · 03-07-2014, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan D Segal

LMAO now I've heard everything.

Have you ever owned one?

Ive had 2 myself, my old man has had 3.

They are a great car.

If I wasnt planning to buy the last V8 id be buying the "last" Territory. Sadly Im not wealthy enough to have it all.

**Polyal** · 03-07-2014, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DASH GT

Have you ever owned one?

Ive had 2 myself, my old man has had 3.

They are a great car.

If I wasnt planning to buy the last V8 id be buying the "last" Territory. Sadly Im not wealthy enough to have it all.

This is my issue...will be looking at getting something to replace the C4 in 2 years time and the last of the Tez's would do nicely...but so would a XR6T (but need 7 seats).

As for your car, there are just so many options. Your car ticks all the boxes though. Nice ad by the way..hehe

mcnews · 03-07-2014, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan D Segal

LMAO now I've heard everything.

No, now we know how little you know...

Whitey-AMG · 03-07-2014, 11:50 AM

People are still buying.
Its just that we have a greater availability of models to choose from - there is a plethora of new technologies that are being released in newer models more frequently. New car purchases attract good finance deals and leasing options and you also get massive factory warranties and good deals on free or fixed price servicing. So although second hand cars are cheaper initially - the lure of all the trinkets and peace of mind warranty must be playing a big part - not to mention resale prospects.

Smoke Pursuit · 03-07-2014, 12:22 PM

I just jacked the price, I'm scared people think that there's something wrong with it, as per the LOWER price.

I typically have always priced everything heavy giving room to move when the buyers come, but this car really has me screwed.

Good thing is I don't need to sell it until the new V8 arrives.

Itsme · 03-07-2014, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DASH GT

The thing is none of them are selling. I have all the Territory Titanium's within QLD saved on my carsales account, not one of them has sold.

Mine is the cheapest for the kms and standard equipment.

I have dropped the price again, i'll see what happens.

Glad im not a car dealer with a yard full of them.

The dealers will have no problem selling cars as they have the advantage which is warranty with the trust the car is legit, I know many people who shy away from private car sales for this very reason.

Vesper Martini · 03-07-2014, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan D Segal

LMAO now I've heard everything.

When you ridicule someone like that, you'll need to explain why.

IMO When held up against the best cars in the world in its segment The Territory holds up very well.

Smoke Pursuit · 03-07-2014, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by trublu

The dealers will have no problem selling cars as they have the advantage which is warranty with the trust the car is legit, I know many people who shy away from private car sales for this very reason.

I know that, but at the same time I know people who think they are getting a better deal buying private, plus they dont have to deal with the bullshit sales tactics of a yard.

I'm confident that I'm not the problem and its actually the market going by what hasn't sold in the last month.

mcnews · 03-07-2014, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bevsta007

When you ridicule someone like that, you'll need to explain why.

IMO When held up against the best cars in the world in its segment The Territory holds up very well.

Especially, as I mentioned, on release and early on in it's cycle. Thus why I said, then compared to the best the world had on offer at twice the price or more the Territory in regards to handling dynamics etc. was up there with the world market leaders at a fraction of the price. This was an incredible achievement, and perhaps the most noteworthy achievement of any Australian manufacturer ever when compared to competitors in its segment globally and its price point.

Crazy Dazz · 03-07-2014, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nova 8

The guy who inquired and bought the green one looked at the white one and still bought the green one

The only people who buy WHITE Magnas are really cheap government departments and colour-blind octogenarians.

Crazy Dazz · 03-07-2014, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DASH GT

I know that, but at the same time I know people who think they are getting a better deal buying private, plus they dont have to deal with the bullshit sales tactics of a yard.

That's obviously your problem, you're just not a big enough a-hole.
Try being much ruder and ignorant when responding to enquiries, ignore their questions, just keep asking for their mobile number so you can harass them, and always close with "do you want the car or not because I've got others interested."

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Originally Posted by DASH GT

I'm confident that I'm not the problem and its actually the market going by what hasn't sold in the last month.

Yes, as mentioned, June & July lousy months for private sales, especially this year, should pick up towards the end of the month.

LoudPipes · 03-07-2014, 01:57 PM

It's too cold to be out buying cars.

HULK EF · 03-07-2014, 02:11 PM

Too cold? bwhahahaha.

my sis sold her car within hours of listing on gumtree... 5 calls within an hour and sold 3 hours after that. Cash in hand private seller.
2005 SP23 Mazda hatch 5 spd mettallic black. GC.
-was offerred $3500-$4000 TOPS by auction company.. -sold privately that afternoon for $4900.

In her favour was being a small car i guess. Cant think of much else. Everyone want a smashing bargain nowadays or something for almost a give away price.

SumoDog68 · 03-07-2014, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mcnews

Especially, as I mentioned, on release and early on in it's cycle. Thus why I said, then compared to the best the world had on offer at twice the price or more the Territory in regards to handling dynamics etc. was up there with the world market leaders at a fraction of the price. This was an incredible achievement, and perhaps the most noteworthy achievement of any Australian manufacturer ever when compared to competitors in its segment globally and its price point.

Territory was an attempt to get a slice of growing SUV market - IMO very succesful attempt as Territory most likely have extended local Ford manufacturing.
Cleverly designed with mechanicals shared with Falcon it is a pick for handling in its class. Quality and fit and finish are probably not best in class .
Ford missed the oportunity to own this segment with multiple versions - such as V8 , manual , jacked up version with more offroad capability etc. - concept was not further developed and kept updated.
It is often mentioned that Territory is almost matching X5 in dynamics which is a big compliment as X5 outhandles many sedans.

johnydep · 03-07-2014, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SumoDog68

Territory was an attempt to get a slice of growing SUV market - IMO very succesful attempt as Territory most likely have extended local Ford manufacturing.
Cleverly designed with mechanicals shared with Falcon it is a pick for handling in its class. Quality and fit and finish are probably not best in class .
Ford missed the oportunity to own this segment with multiple versions - such as V8 , manual , jacked up version with more offroad capability etc. - concept was not further developed and kept updated.
It is often mentioned that Territory is almost matching X5 in dynamics which is a big compliment as X5 outhandles many sedans.

Ford Oz purchased two X5's and pulled them apart, to get as many idea and good bits as possible.

brodster · 03-07-2014, 08:11 PM

Tried selling my territory, no luck either

Paull · 03-07-2014, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SumoDog68

2k sound system indicates what type of driver the previous owner was. Modified cars get much less interest compared to stock .
Easiest to sell are common colour ,stock cars with solid service history.

I recently advertised my 2003 Magna. Stock as a rock, very good condition and priced at the lower end of the market. Advertised on Gumtree and got zero calls. After 3 weeks, I gave up and took it off. Fortunately, a friend of a friend bought it for the price we were asking ($3500). In past I have always sold cars on Gumtree and they are sold within 36 hours of listing. This one had me stumped. I could only think that no one wants a Magna (still heaps on there as well). But maybe it is also the current economic climate that is not helping.

Ben73 · 03-07-2014, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OLD BALDY

Most say no money around at the moment!!!
I just did a 3 week coach trip around Europe
30 out of the 38 on the coach were ozzies, of
the 30 probably 8 over 55 the remainder mid 50's
and down to 4 low 20's, our cost over 20k.
Some say no money around at the moment maybe
for buying cars!!!

There is still money around, and not every company and industry is going down the toilet, yet. But heaps of industries and people are struggling. Probably more than 10 years ago.

I have been trying to sell custom wheels off my Chrysler for 3.5 months and only had 2 emails and 1 call.
I haven't been trying too hard, gumtree ad has expired a few time and I just put it back up whenever I am bothered. I think I'll drop the price and upload the new ad right now.

MercuryT · 04-07-2014, 06:02 PM

Falcon XR models aren't selling down my way in Tassie either as an example.

Many examples have been on sale privately for ages and despite price drops, different photos etc, they just don't seem to sell despite appearing (to me at least) to be great buys.

It's the main reason i'm still holding on to mine after 6 years. It's still a great car (touch wood), fast and reliable, and what I would get for it is absolutely absurd....so i'll just keep it.

irish2 · 04-07-2014, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by neptune blue

My bosses son in law is the CFO for Chrysler Australia and according to him they can't get their hands on enough Jeeps

I also have a friend at Hyundai and he is saying the same thing

The guy from Hyundai can't get his hands on enough Jeeps?

**GasoLane** · 04-07-2014, 07:35 PM

New cars seem to be doing ok this month....

http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/a...703-zsugl.html

Windsor220 · 04-07-2014, 07:51 PM

Its because of what new cars are around. Territory is a nice car but the majority of people would just buy something like a new Outlander for under 30k that will do the job instead of buying something older for more.

mcnews · 05-07-2014, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Paull

I recently advertised my 2003 Magna. Stock as a rock, very good condition and priced at the lower end of the market. Advertised on Gumtree and got zero calls. After 3 weeks, I gave up and took it off. Fortunately, a friend of a friend bought it for the price we were asking ($3500). In past I have always sold cars on Gumtree and they are sold within 36 hours of listing. This one had me stumped. I could only think that no one wants a Magna (still heaps on there as well). But maybe it is also the current economic climate that is not helping.

You did well I sold a very good condition and perfect running Magna VRX of the same vintage for $2500 a few weeks ago.

Paull · 05-07-2014, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mcnews

You did well I sold a very good condition and perfect running Magna VRX of the same vintage for $2500 a few weeks ago.

Yeah I think so, I am just glad that I was able to sell it. I had no idea what I was going to do with it if I couldn't get rid of it.