LaFerrari - Page 3

MethodX · 08-03-2013, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Wretched

HA, how many here have really owned them?

Can you prove they have not?

Wretched · 08-03-2013, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MethodX

Can you prove they have not?

Nope but some of the people that have "owned" these cars are so biased against them in the first place it is doubtable they would have spent the $$ in the first place on them.

Nikked · 08-03-2013, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Wretched

Nope but some of the people that have "owned" these cars are so biased against them in the first place it is doubtable they would have spent the $$ in the first place on them.

Its redundant anyway, not all German cars are built in Germany...some owners would not know that their 3-series is built in South Africa...

And contra argumen, the common opinion is that German built Fords are some of the best in the world...and South Aferican ones are shocking...

saam · 08-03-2013, 08:58 PM

id take the missus for a spin.....

Bossxr8 · 08-03-2013, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MethodX

Like calling an Aussie car the Anzac.

LaFerrari makes sense in its native language.

It translates to TheFerrari. How does that make any sense.

It is as bad as the Ferrari Enzo Ferrari

And what does that have to do with Anzac?

XDV800 · 08-03-2013, 10:24 PM

Next exclusive Ferrari huh. Meh.

Much prefer THIS!

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rc...p8ByR_uyZwGR-w

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xy0...neno_lifestyle

MethodX · 08-03-2013, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

It translates to TheFerrari. How does that make any sense.

It is as bad as the Ferrari Enzo Ferrari

And what does that have to do with Anzac?

Culture.
And as stated before. say it in the native language.

like the way Maserati 3200 GT rolls off the tongue in Italian.

**Peuty** · 08-03-2013, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MethodX

But they seem to keep the TATA connection quiet all the time though.
Funny about that

No they don't. JLR are extremely grateful of the TATA connection and are very open about the fact that it was the Indians who saved their brand.

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Originally Posted by MethodX

Good on them. Have to protect the brand.
Ford Aus were always famous for doing the same in tests.
in a comparison of the base model falcon v commodore for instance they supplied an S pack. And the Falcon still lost.

It seems to be that you are looking for an arguement, I wasn't passing judgement, merely stating a fact.

CSV_LS1 · 08-03-2013, 10:53 PM

Ferrari wouldn't be the only manufacturer to have done a dodgy. Most recently Pagani was caught with photographs of them using hand cut racing slicks on the Huayra during the Top Gear hot lap. They posted that they used used Perelli P Zero Corsa's.
It's the world we live in.....

Nikked · 08-03-2013, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MethodX

Culture.
And as stated before. say it in the native language.

like the way Maserati 3200 GT rolls off the tongue in Italian.

Its still, "Ferrari, the Ferrari"

And, going back to this...

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Originally Posted by MethodX

Mclaren have no history in sports cars.
Might as well buy a Corvette...

Mclaren have been successful in not just F1, but Indy cars (winning the Indy 500), Can-Am and Lemans, In fact, Mclaren are the most successful Can-Am constructor. Mclaren is the only manufacturer to win The Formula 1 Championship, the Indianapolis 500 and the Le Mans 24 Hours...

So...

In 1993 the F1 was released, Mclaren had not released a road car in its history, and it knocked the wind out of Ferrari...it remained the fastest production car for over 10 years. It won Lemans on its first outing, against purpose built GT1 cars...the F1 was a road legal production car modified for racing, while the CLK GTR, 911 GT1 were pure race cars, modified for street use...

Still want to think that Mclaren have no history in sports cars?

They built one production model and Ferrari are still hurting from it...

CSV_LS1 · 08-03-2013, 10:59 PM

In Italian they see names differently.
Maserati Quattroporte sounds sexy and all it says when translated in English is Maserati Four Door Lol.

MethodX · 08-03-2013, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

Its still, "Ferrari, the Ferrari"

And, going back to this...

Mclaren have been successful in not just F1, but Indy cars (winning the Indy 500), Can-Am and Lemans, In fact, Mclaren are the most successful Can-Am constructor. Mclaren is the only manufacturer to win The Formula 1 Championship, the Indianapolis 500 and the Le Mans 24 Hours...

So...

In 1993 the F1 was released, Mclaren had not released a road car in its history, and it knocked the wind out of Ferrari...it remained the fastest production car for over 10 years. It won Lemans on its first outing, against purpose built GT1 cars...the F1 was a road legal production car modified for racing, while the CLK GTR, 911 GT1 were pure race cars, modified for street use...

Still want to think that Mclaren have no history in sports cars?

The built one production model and Ferrari are still hurting from it...

Ok I forgot about that very good and landmark car. My mistake.
But who's engine did it use? wasnt it a BMW? very typical Pom makers.
Hurting? record sales last year and in years preceding would say they arent hurting at all.

**Peuty** · 08-03-2013, 11:09 PM

Pagani uses an AMG engine. The horror!

MethodX · 08-03-2013, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Peuty

Pagani uses an AMG engine. The horror!

Yeah, they can get to.. you know where.
At least Ford used Ford motors, and Iso and Bizzarini Chevrolet.

**DJM83** · 09-03-2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MethodX

Then why are German cars so unreliable then?
According to the people on here who have owned them.

Not mine....

If Fords where Chinese built and had the quality of my German Ford id pay for it no worries.

Whats the big deal with mostly smaller manufacturers using motors from well known manufacturers.
-Original manufacturer makes more money.
-We get to see smaller manufacturers like Noble for instance make some fantastic cars and get a start, without that we may not see them at all.

satria · 09-03-2013, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MethodX

Ok I forgot about that very good and landmark car. My mistake.
But who's engine did it use? wasnt it a BMW? very typical Pom makers.
Hurting? record sales last year and in years preceding would say they arent hurting at all.

I think what he means by it still hurting Ferrari is that it was such an epic car for such a long period of time it no doubt goes down in the books as exactly that. An epic road car, and what would hurt Ferrari for probably all time is that it isn't a Ferrari! Ferrari aim to be the most admired brand out there there is no doubt of that and we are all aware of the lengths they would go to just to achieve that and good on them, they seem to be pretty damn succesful at acheiving that.

Cars like the McLaren F1 will forever be a thorn in the side of Ferrari but in a way i suppose this is what makes them strive to deliver something greater than their competitors, like LaFerrari (see, i managed to bring the argument back on topic :P)

As for the engine not being a McLaren that is just bs, if there is such a great engine ready and waiting why the hell would you not use it? Just the same as many many epic cars have used engines from other brands, most notable being Pagani and AMG, maybe Noble with the Volvo engines and the many great sports cars using Ford 4,6 and 8 cylinder engines in various brands! Doing this does not discredit a car at all IMO.

EVLKNEVL · 09-03-2013, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MethodX

But who's engine did it use? wasnt it a BMW? very typical Pom makers.

So, do you not have a problem with Holden and HSV using Chevrolet engines?

CSV_LS1 · 09-03-2013, 03:31 PM

The F1 had a bespoke V12 developed by BMW.
I don't think I've ever heard someone give a dig to a mac F1 that was credible. And I still haven't....

The F40 used a number of parts from the Fiat line up but who cares.

AWD Chaser · 09-03-2013, 05:31 PM

Ferrari, La Ferrari... bit like saying: Bond... James Bond...

MethodX · 09-03-2013, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by EVLKNEVL

So, do you not have a problem with Holden and HSV using Chevrolet engines?

GM Powertrain, which is all the same company.

EF ECTIV · 09-03-2013, 07:21 PM

personally out of the three I prefer the looks of the P1... P1 looks like pure porn to me...

EVLKNEVL · 09-03-2013, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MethodX

GM Powertrain, which is all the same company.

Nevertheless, what Holden do is design and build the Commodore body, chassis, interior, and then outsource the V8 engine. Is it your objection that McLaren didn't outsource from a company they own or are otherwise intimately affiliated with?

I'm sorry, that's a pretty feeble criticism.

MethodX · 09-03-2013, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by EVLKNEVL

Nevertheless, what Holden do is design and build the Commodore body, chassis, interior, and then outsource the V8 engine. Is it your objection that McLaren didn't outsource from a company they own or are otherwise intimately affiliated with?

I'm sorry, that's a pretty feeble criticism.

How many Mustang parts did the phase 3 use? all the same company.

I just love it that the love me do Pom makers have to scrape and bow to whomever they can get engines from.
Even the Gerries now... shock horror.
The queen rides aorund in a German car... Its funny.

All Euro countries have their rivalries.

gtxb67 · 09-03-2013, 11:10 PM

who really cares - gm and ferrari fans are the same
both are bogans who (would like to) buy whatever crap the company puts out, under the pretence of national pride
at least gm fans don't try and pretend they are upmarket compared to everyone else

MethodX · 09-03-2013, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by gtxb67

who really cares - gm and ferrari fans are the same
both are bogans who (would like to) buy whatever crap the company puts out, under the pretence of national pride
at least gm fans don't try and pretend they are upmarket compared to everyone else

At least GM and Ferrari cars sell well, unlike those falcon coupes did ai?
A ford fan calling other people bogans, now ive seen everything. god help us.

EVLKNEVL · 09-03-2013, 11:16 PM

Um, I don't have a problem with manufacturers outsourcing parts and engines. The Phase 3 was a legendary machine.

BMW offered McLaren Automotive the purpose-built F1 powerplant after taking interest in the project. McLaren Automotive did not 'scrape and bow' to anyone.

gtxb67 · 09-03-2013, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MethodX

At least GM and Ferrari cars sell well, unlike those falcon coupes did ai?
A ford fan calling other people bogans, now ive seen everything. god help us.

how about trolls - does that fit better

bogan trolling . . . that sounds about right

Nikked · 09-03-2013, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MethodX

At least GM and Ferrari cars sell well, unlike those falcon coupes did ai?
A ford fan calling other people bogans, now ive seen everything. god help us.

why are you even here?

gtxb67 · 09-03-2013, 11:17 PM

and gm cars don't sell well - that is why your beloved holden is owned by the american people

MethodX · 09-03-2013, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

why are you even here?

Why are you?