Holden Commodore VE Series 2 BUSTED! (?)

[4.0i_SiX]

They didnt mention whether colour matched bumpers were included in the update :P

[buggerlugs]

They'll still sell. They could go back to vinyl seats and Radial Tuned suspension, but they'll still sell , got me buggered how thou.............

[Smoke Pursuit]

Its Holden.. Holden = Australian.

I cant believe the amount of people who will buy them time and time again and never look at a Ford. I personally look at both when it comes time to upgrade. My neighbours a good example, buys a new HSV every 18 months, then complains when they bring out a new one coz its better, goes in and trades up dumping huge amounts of money and starts again.

[Jeddak]

Originally Posted by prydey

holden could re release the vc commodore complete with original power and handling and it would still sell.

Funny that .......I tend to agree,it seems that the name "commodore" has an attraction that transends common sense.

[SteveJH]

Originally Posted by bfiipursuit

Its Holden.. Holden = Australian.

I cant believe the amount of people who will buy them time and time again and never look at a Ford. I personally look at both when it comes time to upgrade. My neighbours a good example, buys a new HSV every 18 months, then complains when they bring out a new one coz its better, goes in and trades up dumping huge amounts of money and starts again.

Goes both ways. My parents bought a BF2 xr6 a couple of months ago. I asked if they looked at anything else. "err, no...."

[The Stylist]

Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

i'd be very surprised if these were indicative of the upcoming changes, very very surprised. I'll have my hat near me, ready to eat, but look at a few things:

1) The VE has been criticised widely already for its lack of styling changes, these pictured changes are far too modest, i can barely tell the difference.

2) The chops are done by someone at yahoo.com? Or is this just someone in the public's work based on cars or official pictures he's seen?

3) following on from #2, the number plates aren't even lined up with the rest of the cars lines.

I'd be ridiculously surprised if the visual updates were not significantly more dramatic than those pictured

Hehe, well be prepared to be ridiculously surprised then. The illustrations were done by myself, and yes they're based off the real thing.

[AWD Chaser]

Is it even confirmed that its going to be called the VE2? They have recently just registered the E Series 3 trademarks so is that just a protection or what?

[Bobman]

Originally Posted by Kia Chaser

Is it even confirmed that its going to be called the VE2? They have recently just registered the E Series 3 trademarks so is that just a protection or what?

No-one would know until Holden announce it themselves. Everyone was calling the 'BA' as the 'AV' Falcon until Ford themselves dropped the 'BA' name through the media much to my surprise.

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by The Stylist

Hehe, well be prepared to be ridiculously surprised then. The illustrations were done by myself, and yes they're based off the real thing.

well straighten the number plate :P

[GS608]

Originally Posted by Kia Chaser

Is it even confirmed that its going to be called the VE2? They have recently just registered the E Series 3 trademarks so is that just a protection or what?

Wouldn't the fact that they're registering e series 3 etc basically set in stone that it'll be called a VE MK2, otherwise they'd call them the F series lol

[Road Games]

Originally Posted by XR-CHIEF

Wouldn't the fact that they're registering e series 3 etc basically set in stone that it'll be called a VE MK2, otherwise they'd call them the F series lol

And i wonder what we would claim the F stood for eh ??

[Iggypoppin']

I'm not calling you a liar Stylist, but can we have some proof you designed these pictures?

[Falc'man]

Originally Posted by Iggypoppin'

I'm not calling you a liar Stylist, but can we have some proof you designed these pictures?

I'll vouch for The Stylist, he's genuine.

[Falc'man]

Originally Posted by MAD

So basically with the bonnet line they're trying to turn the VE into a VZ. Way to move forward!

In my view VE's very conservative front-end treatment was a step back from VZ's.

[Iggypoppin']

No problems.
Well, the proof then that these are accurate and the commodore isn't getting much at all exterior-wise.

[Brazen]

Originally Posted by Falc'man

In my view VE's very conservative front-end treatment was a step back from VZ's.

Totally agree.

[XR8putts]

Originally Posted by Iggypoppin'

I'm not calling you a liar Stylist, but can we have some proof you designed these pictures?

Stylist speaketh/draweth the truth. He is old school AFF, FF and BON too I believe?

[JPFS1]

Great work on the cgi's Josh.

Hopefully FG's styling updates next year will be better received. I've got a feeling it should.

[Elks]

A couple of things. From a blue blooded Ford fan.

1. I don't mind the VE. I think the SS is the pick of the range looks wise, and the wagon is spot on. The interior is 2nd class and the A pillars are a joke. Overall vision out of them is poor. I am qualified to judge as I've had 5 different ones as company cars over the last 4 years.

2. Were the BA and BF Different? We had 1 of each of them too. The BF2 was more so as the bumper changed - slightly and they were more quiet.

3. Sunroofs, I think you will find that there are now major liability issues with the fitment of sunroofs to vehicles fitted with side and curtain airbags. To the point where the VACC is recommending dealers who have arrange fitment have the cars returned to std. So the idea of buying an FG and cutting a hole in it will have soon evaporated.

My 2c

[Joe5619]

Can someone tell me where the changes are??? 4 years latter & this is all the changes we get?? God Help Holden in the years to come!!

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by Elks

2. Were the BA and BF Different? We had 1 of each of them too. The BF2 was more so as the bumper changed - slightly and they were more quiet.

Yes they were different, they got a different lower portion of the front bar and different tail lights

the xr had the same deal, then the real change was as you said with the BF2.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

Yes they were different, they got a different lower portion of the front bar and different tail lights
.

only a ford fan would notice the difference between the ba and bf. average non car people wouldn't know the difference.

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by prydey

only a ford fan would notice the difference between the ba and bf. average non car people wouldn't know the difference.

aren't we predominantly ford fans here? i doubt anyone who doesn't give a rats about cars would be sitting here discussing minor variations in styling

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

aren't we predominantly ford fans here? i doubt anyone who doesn't give a rats about cars would be sitting here discussing minor variations in styling

there are many on here bagging the apparent lack of change, or significant change in the next commodore, and yet how is ba - bf any different?

[mcnews]

Driving in Sydney last night was following an E2 Senator Signature, damn nice car. Pity we don't have any premium luxury product with that sort of presence.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by mcnews

Driving in Sydney last night was following an E2 Senator Signature, damn nice car. Pity we don't have any premium luxury product with that sort of presence.

GTE is a much nicer car then a E2 Senator...

[BOSHOG]

Originally Posted by prydey

there are many on here bagging the apparent lack of change, or significant change in the next commodore, and yet how is ba - bf any different?

shouldnt we be comparing BA1 to BA2 or BF1 to BF2 instead of BA to BF? after all were talking VE2 not a new model

[GS608]

Originally Posted by BOSHOG

shouldnt we be comparing BA1 to BA2 or BF1 to BF2 instead of BA to BF? after all were talking VE2 not a new model

Not really as VE has already had the MY10 update which was equal to the BA MK 2 update VE Series 2 is more in line with what was done with BF

[SteveJH]

Originally Posted by bfiipursuit

GTE is a much nicer car then a E2 Senator...

The only thing I don't like about it, is that the Bonnet bulge ruins that Refined sort of Luxury look.

Of course, anything would look nicer then an E2 Senator, those things are fugly.

[ltd]

In the picture of the rear of the car did anyone else notice the crease on the boot lip?
Are they going to stick one of those LED tail lights in there? The picture of the red SS has this covered up too with black tape.