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23-08-2006, 10:51 PM | #61 | |||
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24-08-2006, 12:21 AM | #62 | |||
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I still stand by my comment. People know the risks on anything they partake in, before they 'compete'. Be-it drag racing, track racing, or going fllat out on the open roads. It's a risk everybody takes. Me, I think you're a local who might find these events will take away your 'right' to enjoy the open speed limits up there. The more attention they get, the more likely some polly will be of the opinion they are completely unnecessary, ( and with public presure from the do-gooders ) and enforce a 'speed limit'. I find it suprising you care so much for joe millionare who wants to fly in and flog around in his million dollar toy and may kill himself. Yes there was an accident at the last event, but it could have been completely avoidable. I may be wrong. |
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24-08-2006, 11:21 AM | #63 | ||
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I think one point that some people are missing is how unpredictable roo's and general wildlife is. If you've never encountered any, you'd wouldn't think that.
Example, cruising home one night in a 4 car convoy over easter. open'ish area - enough to see. We were not spread out excessivly. about 10 -15 seconds first to last car Car 1 - didn't see roo (high beams on) - me Car 2 - didn't see roo (low beams) Car 3 - Saw roo on side on road not going anywhere(low beams) car 4 - hit roo -no warning (low beams) theres plenty more stories like that as well Cheers |
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24-08-2006, 11:40 AM | #64 | |||
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No bullbar. No frontal protection. Saw the roo in the corner of my eye, had no time to react, and didn't have room to move as I was mid corner at the time. Hit dead centre. Remember, these animals can stand up to 1.8mt in height, and weigh up to 100kg's. They can also hop up to 70km/h too in short bursts (Such as crossing the highway) Cheers
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24-08-2006, 12:21 PM | #65 | |||
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24-08-2006, 09:38 PM | #66 | ||
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anyone who tried arguing that a ferrari has a better chance at avoiding hitting a roo than a falcon obviously hasnt lived too far from the 'burbs
nothing can help you if a 'roo bounces out of the scrub when you're doing the kinda speeds the cannonballers do..... the best thing you can hope for is you dont hit him, cos at 250+km/h, you simply dont have the time to spot a roo and take evasive action unless he's WAAAAAY ahead of you, and 99% of the time, when they're that far ahead, they'll be in the scrub on the other side of the road before you get there..... |
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24-08-2006, 09:45 PM | #67 | |||
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Spot on......
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24-08-2006, 10:10 PM | #68 | |||||
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It's an almost worthless unique Australian sign created in a very multi-national country where not all speak English maaaate, let alone the tourists who are confused by it. Hopeless really, it is what happens when alcohol fuelled state public servants get together in Melbourne, and with Monash, to create a road traffic sign, whilst being totally oblivious to Commonwealth treaties. Quote:
AND where, aside from my beloved Road User's Handbook, - where I've had the signs real description as a 'speed derestricted sign' once again used within, do you get this idea?? Quote:
Would you like to make this a seperate thread?
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25-08-2006, 11:37 AM | #69 | |||
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Stunning spot. |
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25-08-2006, 11:39 AM | #70 | ||
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Woops Wrong Thread
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25-08-2006, 02:15 PM | #71 | |||||
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I'm not doubting you, I'm just relating my own personal experience. Cheers, Lumpy :gren:
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25-08-2006, 02:28 PM | #72 | |||
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lived in west wyalong condoblin eugerie parkes forbes wellington goulburn(which is a city btw) windelima(back of goulburn) tarago(back of goulburn) taralga(back of goulburn) braidwood(way out back of goulburn) god the list goes on then i've lived in canberra(12 different suburbs) sydney(6 different suburbs) brisbane(3 different subrubs) so im pretty sure i know the worse case scenerio either at 200+ or 80+ nothing is gunna stop a roo if its right on you,but i still bet a ferrari would handle it better then a ford anyday. : |
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25-08-2006, 07:44 PM | #73 | |||
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I have the whole database comprising six hundred questions and answers here somewhere, as yes, we tell you it represents the rural default - 100km/h, but my legal advocacy side will tell you another. The signs graphic (//) is unmistakable. I could tell you the signs meaning under AS 1742.4 of 1999:-)
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25-08-2006, 08:40 PM | #74 | |||
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Like you say, I went and downloaded the Road User Handbook from the RTA's website and there it is, page 52, Speed Derestricted Sign. <Edit> Just read the text and it say the 'Default Speed Limit Apply'. Damned if you do....</edit>
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25-08-2006, 08:55 PM | #75 | |||
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Not bad...did they get a clearance from the control tower for low level flying.
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26-08-2006, 12:32 AM | #76 | ||
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i know that if a roo pops out in front of me the last thing i will be doing is slamming the brakes, nose dive - hit roo - roo ends up in your windscreen. jam your foot hard on the loud pedal and watch the roo bounce off your car without going through your windscreen. had a close call coming home from adelaide a few years back, i was glad the idiot with the vy gts overtook me 10 seconds earlier otherwise the xy would have been at sims metal. he hit that roo and hit it hard, he hit the brakes so hard his discs were glowing red by the time he stopped and the roo was half way through his windscreen, cops found it amusing when i told them i was sitting on 75 miles an hour and he passed me like i was sitting on the spot.
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26-08-2006, 01:59 PM | #77 | |||
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"End of all local prohibitions imposed on moving vehicles". Hardly; 'default speed limit' or 'speed limit 100km/h' or 'speed limit 110km/h'. Have a look at a Collins dictionary at the word 'derestriction' - it is to REMOVE, not impose. A Macquarie dictionary on the other hand fouls the English language by saying the latin 'de' means to ADD a restriction, what happened here is that Macquarie merely adopted the old AS rule and applied that as language. I'll be sticking with Collins et al. Australian Standard 1742.4 of 1999 on the matter - this reflects the requirement of the United Nations Convention, as legal owner and administrator of legal instruments:- Speed derestriction sign (R4-2), (Referenced as sign "C,17a" in the UN Conventions) "The Speed Derestriction sign shall be used where permitted by State or Territory regulation, at the end of a linnear speed zone, or a general urban speed limit to indicate that no speed limit applies to the road beyond the sign". Note: At time of publication, this applied to NT only. Now, as I say - IF the AS were to state the sign means 'rural default', then once again (1986 edition), we'd drag this Standard before the United Nations at Geneva to have it bought in line with contracted requirement, and to insist that parties such as Australia who had not contracted to the 'Road Signs' portion of the traffic Convention, that it is NOT permissible to effectively 'knock off' international road traffic signs and then give them unique domestic meaning not understood by the world community, who well happen upon one. Over 92 contries contract this sign and teach its meaning properly, but do not necessarily use it, those in error are New Zealand, GB and certain AUS states. Meanwhile, to avoid 'speed excess' by some people - we'll continue to tell you in NSW that the sign means 'default 100km/h' and we'll test you on that. It is a matter of taking an exceed speed limit fine to court, if you wish to get off. Hello High Court, issues here you see of national metrology etc and so on can also come into play. The sign does not allow for idiot speeds - where you can face dangerous driving charges, but in my view is often a safer option, on a per length of road basis than NT's blanket adoption, than posting say a middle east like 160km/h speed restriction, because of the bunching-up effect that speed restrictions inevitably cause.
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ORDER FORD AUSTRALIA PART NO: AM6U7J19G329AA. This is a European-UN/AS3790B Spec safety-warning triangle used to give advanced warning to approaching traffic of a vehicle breakdown, or crash scene (to prevent secondary). Stow in the boot area. See your Ford dealer for this $35.95 safety item & when you buy a new Ford, please insist on it! See Page 83, part 4.4.1 http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/media...eSafePart4.pdf Last edited by Keepleft; 26-08-2006 at 02:22 PM. |
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29-08-2006, 05:25 PM | #78 | ||
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so whats everyone got planned for this week in 2007 ;) http://cannonballworld.com/aus/Booki...0Australia.pdf |
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29-08-2006, 06:37 PM | #79 | ||
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29-08-2006, 07:00 PM | #80 | ||
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fairly old but still good to watch.
http://www.teckademicseast.com/forums/index.php? another forum to see these videos from ;) im also a member of them as im part of the "destroy international promo crew" ;) |
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29-08-2006, 09:01 PM | #81 | ||
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I shall ask Allan to get his thoughts on it...in the next few days.
Personally unless they follow very strict rules..like I outlined...well it will not happen ever again!!!!
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29-08-2006, 09:42 PM | #82 | ||
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I have been talking to a few folk around town. The general feeling seems to be that of doubt. There are not many positive comments about it being staged again. There are still memories of the last dissaster. I think that if the people that actually live out here have a say, it wont happen again. Nobody can see the point. The roads just cant sustain a vehicle going at those speeds. Personally I think that going any faster than 200k is asking for trouble. And we are not just talking about a quick squirt on the loud valve and then slow down and have a look around to see if you have been caught, (ie east coast driving style) these guys will get to well above 200 and stay there. And that is where the danger is. The longer you are at these speeds, the greater the chance of something bad happening.
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29-08-2006, 09:48 PM | #83 | |||
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Outbackjack...check out 'new adelaide airport is very impressive thread' and stop sulking!!!!!
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29-08-2006, 10:00 PM | #85 | |||
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I tried to view link..am on dial up..don't work for me. Outbackjack if the vid is of the Cannonball..then at that time nothing seemed out of the ordinary. Besides the 2officials and 2 compeptitors losing their lives it was also the last time I saw Greg Hansford alive...he died at Philip Island later on. Now to get to the point ....YOU were NOT there..you have NO idea of the thinking of the day. When and if you are prepared to accept an alternate point of view...let us know. You have been challenged...stop sulking over my previous posts and get a thick skin!!!!!!!!!!
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29-08-2006, 10:16 PM | #87 | |||
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Mate, the yank version is/was so much different from the OZ Cannonball. The only problem with the OZ run....was the F40 and its crew...uptil then everthing was running fine...when we meet, I shall if you wish, tell you about the OZ Cannonball. And I really do mean to meet as many on the forums as I can...given time and dollars.
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29-08-2006, 10:31 PM | #88 | |||
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Sorry to disillusion you mate ...but nothing in life is totally safe...unless you stay in bed all day and are waited upon. however having said that ..it can be made as safe as possible ...IF everyone follows the rules.
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