Video: Are These Six Of The Greatest Inline Six Cylinder Engines? - Page 3

ebzery · 06-03-2018, 08:17 PM

one of my favorite engines was the 179 hp block holden engine althought underpowered compared to the 265 hemi .
with 3 su carbs and that forged steel crank it was a sweet engine.
in race tune performed well in a small car.
in my eh holden with 3 on the tree i crossed many any intersection looking up into the sky.
(lots of that was due to the solid accelerator and the touqued engine locking it onto full throttle}.

Work Horse · 06-03-2018, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by solarite_guy

That's some nice looking iron. That time seems very respectable.

What would you say the hp output was?

The engines I built myself I guess were good for 200-220hp with standard bolt ons.
I always over cammed them because I was young, this often ended in tears.

The cylinder head on red motors was the main limiting factor. I paid a local red motor guru to port a head for me, which ended up being a complete engine. He included all the tricks he knew, secret squirrel cam specs and everything. He claimed it was good for close to 300hp. It cost a small fortune; I never had it on a dyno but was easily the most powerful red six I had ever owned.

I never got to run it over the quater with the good motor; I sold the car to fund an overseas trip. I suspect it would have been quicker than the mid 14's I had run. I will never know but the older I get the faster I was...

lovford · 06-03-2018, 11:07 PM

Car and straight six match, would have to be 202 LG LJ Torana with triple webbers. Kw/tone ratio must of been way up there, because those things flew. Save me starting a thread, could someone please tell me the size of the Miami supercharger. (litre capacity)

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lovford · 06-03-2018, 11:10 PM

Or, ef,el,au,ba,bf,fg.

au350hp · 07-03-2018, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lovford

Car and straight six match, would have to be 202 LG Torana with triple webbers. Kw/tone ratio must of been way up there, because those things flew. Save me starting a thread, could someone please tell me the size of the Miami supercharger. (litre capacity)

Yep, a couple of us on here played around with the Massey Ferguson Red motors & triples

They sounded tough for a six, especially with a nice cam, & I had many 'oh s--t' moments with the triple webered EH I owned as a young fella. I believe the S/C on the Miami is an Eaton 1.9L and that Harrop was extensively involved in its development. Contact Harrop Performance on 03-9474-0900 or check their website, there's a lot to like on it.

lovford · 07-03-2018, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Roostercam

Yep, a couple of us on here played around with the Massey Ferguson Red motors & triples

They sounded tough for a six, especially with a nice cam.
I believe the S/C on the Miami is an Eaton 1.9L.

Thanks, I read 4 reviews, but there was no mention of the size of the supercharger.

**solarite_guy** · 07-03-2018, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Yeti

I gotta say I like the old chev blue flame 6's

Ahhh, the powerglide motor. When young we always had the stick shift motors. As I am sure you are aware, there were a lot of variations. To list we had a '49 Chevy 5 window pickup, a '52 4 door deluxe(?), a '53 4 door deluxe(?) and a '57 210.

Prior to getting married my mother had a '50 fastback Chevy.

All of them were 3 on the tree. At a young age I learned my mother was a street racer with her fastback Chevy.

Wish I had that fastback and 5 window pickup these day.

Amazing I became a Ford man.

**solarite_guy** · 07-03-2018, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CoolBFWagon

...Missed the all the legendary AU's and went straight for my BF3 Barra powered Wagon lowered on Pedders suspension and 19inch CSA wheels...

Sounds like a great combination. Miss the station wagons though.

**solarite_guy** · 07-03-2018, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ebzery

one of my favorite engines was the 179 hp block holden engine althought underpowered compared to the 265 hemi .
with 3 su carbs and that forged steel crank it was a sweet engine.
in race tune performed well in a small car.
in my eh holden with 3 on the tree i crossed many any intersection looking up into the sky.
(lots of that was due to the solid accelerator and the touqued engine locking it onto full throttle}.

The more I read this and think back on my own experiences, it becomes obvious some very good combinations have come our way. When we are younger we don't always take notice of these things.

**solarite_guy** · 07-03-2018, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Work Horse

The engines I built myself I guess were good for 200-220hp with standard bolt ons.
I always over cammed them because I was young, this often ended in tears.

The cylinder head on red motors was the main limiting factor. I paid a local red motor guru to port a head for me, which ended up being a complete engine. He included all the tricks he knew, secret squirrel cam specs and everything. He claimed it was good for close to 300hp. It cost a small fortune; I never had it on a dyno but was easily the most powerful red six I had ever owned.

I never got to run it over the quater with the good motor; I sold the car to fund an overseas trip. I suspect it would have been quicker than the mid 14's I had run. I will never know but the older I get the faster I was...

Honestly, 200 - 220 hp back then from what we knew and what was available are stout figures. Pushing 300 is up there for these days, and consider the architecture.

**solarite_guy** · 07-03-2018, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Roostercam

Yep, a couple of us on here played around with the Massey Ferguson Red motors & triples

They sounded tough for a six, especially with a nice cam, & I had many 'oh s--t' moments with the triple webered EH I owned as a young fella..

Here, many missed out on what could be done with a 6 from a performance perspective. Fortunately, Clifford Engineering existed for the 6 cylinder folks. Up until not long ago they were a solid organization. These days I have heard some questionable feedback.

Maka · 07-03-2018, 08:28 AM

I remember seeing a blown Holden 202 ci (235ci?) D comp rail iirc at the Eastern Creek drags a long time ago running 8's on methanol, it went & sounded insane for a Holden red i6 lol!

My straight sixes i loved in the past were my old Vh 265 4 speed Charger & Vg 245 hemi Pacer, hence the love for my sohc vct Xr6. All capable of scaring a stock older v8 on the right (bendy) road lol.

One day a turbo barra may find its way into my Au, who knows!!

cheers, Maka

**solarite_guy** · 07-03-2018, 11:38 AM

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I remember seeing a blown Holden 202 ci (235ci?) D comp rail iirc at the Eastern Creek drags a long time ago running 8's on methanol, it went & sounded insane for a Holden red i6 lol!

My straight sixes i loved in the past were my old Vh 265 4 speed Charger & Vg 245 hemi Pacer, hence the love for my sohc vct Xr6. All capable of scaring a stock older v8 on the right (bendy) road lol.

One day a turbo barra may find its way into my Au, who knows!!

cheers, Maka

Was the rail rear engined or a slingshot?

Here for a while some Ford 6 cylinder racers would weld 1 and 1/2 Cleveland 4V heads together and mount on a 300 block. I don't remember any performance numbers, but I do remember a lot of other competitors didn't cherish the thought of running against them.

Maka · 07-03-2018, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by solarite_guy

Was the rail rear engined or a slingshot?

Here for a while some Ford 6 cylinder racers would weld 1 and 1/2 Cleveland 4V heads together and mount on a 300 block. I don't remember any performance numbers, but I do remember a lot of other competitors didn't cherish the thought of running against them.

Older slingshot SG, very bespoke, well engineered & setup, dont know any hp numbers but i know it didnt weigh much & it was fast for what it was, it had a pretty flexy spindley chassis lol. Cant remember what tranny it was running unfortunately though dohh.

cheers, Maka

Work Horse · 07-03-2018, 12:34 PM

Fastest red six in the world!

Not sure why I am posting this on FFs

http://www.jzedholden6.com.au/jzed_dragster.html

au350hp · 07-03-2018, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ebzery

one of my favorite engines was the 179 hp block holden engine althought underpowered compared to the 265 hemi .
with 3 su carbs and that forged steel crank it was a sweet engine.
in race tune performed well in a small car.
in my eh holden with 3 on the tree i crossed many any intersection looking up into the sky.
(lots of that was due to the solid accelerator and the touqued engine locking it onto full throttle}.

Ha ha. A mate used to 'jump' his car over the table top style railway crossing. Both rear struts burst a hole through the floor in the rear.

That was the motor I worked in the EH. a 179HP out to 192. triple carbs, electronic ignition of a blue motor (by memory) and a 5 speed Supra Turbo gear box. Good times.

Maka · 22-03-2018, 07:10 AM

Hi guys, beautiful VH Charger with a Turbo Barra -

https://www.streetmachine.com.au/fea...-on-the-murray

Definitely wish i still had my old VH Charger after reading this story lol!

cheers, Maka

Syndrome · 22-03-2018, 08:22 AM

Aulpgute · 25-03-2018, 06:24 PM

One of the most impressive 6cyl setup's I've ever been in was back in the mid/late 80's in the St George district of Sydney where a guy transplanted an E49 spec 265 into his LJ XU1 copy Torana. It was beautifully engineered and fitted well. It was frightening with the Webber's or the Holley 4 barrel setup. I wish I had the opportunity to ride in it later on when it had a Garrett turbo setup installed

Maka · 25-03-2018, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Aulpgute

One of the most impressive 6cyl setup's I've ever been in was back in the mid/late 80's in the St George district of Sydney where a guy transplanted an E49 spec 265 into his LJ XU1 copy Torana. It was beautifully engineered and fitted well. It was frightening with the Webber's or the Holley 4 barrel setup. I wish I had the opportunity to ride in it later on when it had a Garrett turbo setup installed

That Hemi 6 LJ must've been a rocket & handled well too, very impressive by the sounds of it!

The old hemi 6 Centura's didnt hang about either lol, sadly they didnt have the profile or build quality like the Cortina's did but worked ones went like stink too.

cheers, Maka