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02-06-2009, 05:56 PM | #61 | |||
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From my experiences with accidents, the most vital thing you need is an independent eyewitness to the event.
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11-06-2009, 04:38 PM | #62 | ||
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just an update . my GT IS IN THE PANEL SHOP GETTING REPAIRS AT THE MOMENT
we havent heard anything from the insurance company. my wife gave her version of events some time ago. i ring my insurance company today to find out why we havent had any feedback , as my wife isnt atr fault . basically as i stated she was sitting at the lights when a truck turned into her car , and then the truck failed to stop. we instantly reported the accident ( minor) to the insurance company , and the next day rang the owner of the truck to inform him that one of his trucks was involved in a road incident causing damage to our vehicle and left a message with reception, for them to ring us back, reception said they would get him to call us . he did not . after 2 weeks now we havent heard anything from our insurance company, after ringing today i found out why. the driver of the truck and the owner of the business will not return the insurance companies calls . interesting . now we have been asked to draw diagrams and fax tho the insurance company. the other party has had plenty of notice to contact the insurance company regarding the accident and they have not . |
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11-06-2009, 04:45 PM | #63 | ||
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jeez this is a dirty thread. Glad to hear the cars in the shop getting fixed. i hope it comes back perfectly for ya. I also hope it fixes any scratches that were already there that annoyed you so you get somethnig out of this atleast!
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11-06-2009, 05:37 PM | #64 | ||
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as a truck driver who has been driveing for yeasr as much as it is not possible at time to stay in your own lane legaly you are ment to and if you cant you must give way if the gt was in its own lane and didnt not cross the line at any stage no matter who was there first the truck should have made sure he had room to moove there for he will always be classed as in the wrong unfortunantly unless you have all the details and pics of he pain on the truck ect or wittnesses i doubt if you will ever get any money out of the truck company // drive
im sorry to here the gt was dammaged as to the trucky there is always one in the bunch like everything els the puts a bad name out there hope everything sorts it self out good luck |
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11-06-2009, 05:41 PM | #65 | |||
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11-06-2009, 07:50 PM | #66 | ||
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Seems to me that if the truck clipped the GT and she was in her lane and behind the stop line then no matter what the truck driver is in the wrong for turning right too soon and effectively undercutting the corner. If it was a curb there and not a car he would have ridden over the curb and cleaned up the keep left sign typically on median strips . Any trucky worth his salt would stay wide and turn late to make sure the rear axle (which is the critical pivot point for the rear of the truck) is out past any obstruction before commiting to the turn. I myself drive a 7 pallet long heavy rigid and have to get it into and out of some pretty tight spots so am acutely aware of where my rear axle is at all times.
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11-06-2009, 08:09 PM | #67 | ||
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My boat has the Do Not Overtake Turning Vehicle plates on the trailer, and I also drive 7.5m + HR trucks. If someone is already at the lights and I need both lanes (tight turn) I will straddle both lanes BEHIND any car already stopped at lights. If no one is there, I straddle both lanes with indicators on and stop at the stop line. Straddling stops people coming up the inside, but you give way to cars that were already there. Straddling is not a requirement though.
I wish the roads had the same rules as the sea. Regardless of right of way at sea you can be done for "not doing all you can to avoid a collission". This is sadly missing in the road rules and results in truck and car drivers, pedestrians, motorcyclists and cyclists 'enforcing' their right of way, and actually causing a collission in the process when they had the power to avoid it. Immune from legal repercussions. Do this on the water and you get done too.
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11-06-2009, 08:51 PM | #68 | |||
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12-06-2009, 06:43 PM | #69 | ||
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well got the gt back today , we paid the repairer extra to change the bonnet stripes as FRAUD , washed our car once during a warrebty service and stained them with water/degreaser marks . anyhow we now have new ones . i wont comment to much on the satisfaction of the repair as it was late in the afternoon 30 miniutes from night time when we picked it up.
the 1st impressions on seeing the car though was WOW . nice job. perfect colour match. we had a little scratch on the front left guard, which he said he'd airbrush, but ended up respraying it , something i'd asked him not to do as only the bumper was affected, and i didnt want to risk colour miss match, however the assessor allowed budget for repair so they repainted and only informed me by phone after they'd done it . the head light left side had a little black mark on it from the truck tyre , that was changed too. barely barely noticible as more shiny ( almost imagination) . anyhow upon inspection i noticed scratch wipe marks over about 200mm near the stripes . i was a little peaved . the painter came out and polished it and it came up ok . the owner of the shop came out and said the bonnet had not been touched so said they may / or maynot have scratched it , however it will buff out if you want to buff the bonnet they'll do it free . i know that they are only micro scratches so the offer is there if we choose . on that basis i was wrapped at the colour match. the GT ONCE AGAIN LOOKS IMMACULATE . however i will reserve judgement as i hadnt seen it in all weather conditions as yet . the spray painter was telling me and for a young fellow i was amazed at his work . that the bumper had been sprayed a few times . as he had to take it back to bare to paint properly . i said yes it was repainted under warrenty due to faulty paint flaking , no wonder he said . it was actually a silver FPV bar repainted at the factory in silhouette . this explains why the stone chips were so noticable i rember they looked like snow chips . he maentioned its not the 1st FPV that they have seen like this . i remember now waiting 6 weeks for delivery after being told 3 weeks , upon enqury i remember FPV telling me they were short on front bumpers due to suplly and demand problems at the time . GO FIGURE . FRUCKING FRAUD . ANYHOW i said to the wife , it's nice to look at a repair job on your car ang go WOW !!! rather than HOOLLLYYY F#%^&K for a change . |
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12-06-2009, 08:25 PM | #70 | ||
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And did you have to pay any excess to the repairer? if not, then the insurance will be chasing the truck company for it.
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15-06-2009, 06:02 PM | #71 | |||
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definately had to pay the excess . the insurance company gave us a claim number immediately upon notice of incident , then said they will enquire and dtermin whos at fault , which could take months , and after thier decision , if the other drivers is deemed at fault then our excess payment gets refunded . i dont like the way the insurance company doesnt even keep us informed . ??? . not when i have been with them for 20 years and have multiple policies with them . 000's of dollars per year in insurance costs , they could atleast keep us informed . |
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15-06-2009, 07:34 PM | #72 | ||||
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Glad to hear it all turned out well
Sidenote on the insurance company keeping you informed - a while back I had a TransAdelaide bus pull out from the stop without indicating and swipe me. I did everything by the book, got the details, reported it, went through insurance and was told I would have to pay my excess because "by law, you're supposed to give way to buses" to which I replied "even if they don't indicate?". She basically said "we'll take it up with the bus company but for now you'll have to pay it". It was about three months later I think, car had been fixed, everything well, and I received a call out of the blue from the insurance company to state the bus company had accepted liability and would I like my cheque to my home address? So yeah don't be too peeved if they don't keep you in the loop, I never expected to see that $300 again but in the end it all worked out. Hope it works out for you too.
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15-06-2009, 07:48 PM | #73 | |||
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cheers . thanks for the info . i'm glad it worked out for you . good to hear . |
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06-07-2009, 09:48 PM | #74 | ||
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update . this appears to have fizzled into nothingness . last we heard , after us making an enquiry , was that the insurance company still hadnt heard from the other party, they wont return calls to the insurer, nor answer letters .
our car was damaged the other driver hasnt even acknowledged involvement , the cops didnt want to knw, the insurrer got us to make a claim and get the car repaired while they chase up the other party, and that appears so far to be the end of it . absolutely no closure at all . it's easy to see why people dont bother stopping or do a runner, or drive off these days . i dont even think this driver or owner is even going to get a slap on the wrist , or a bad attitude noted . |
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06-07-2009, 10:11 PM | #75 | ||
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Yet another fine example of the police not wanting too get involved unless there
is some fine revenue to be made.
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06-07-2009, 11:00 PM | #76 | |||
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07-07-2009, 06:59 AM | #77 | |||
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Until then the police have no role to play even if they wanted to.
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14-08-2009, 03:04 PM | #78 | ||
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a quick update for anyone interested . we still havent had any feedback or closure from our insurance company. so so slack and dissapointing.
i can only now assume that the other driver simply ignored and did not even acknowledge that he was even in an accisdent and gotten completely off the hook. starting to realise why people run away from any accident if they can ,because the law seems to say if you got away good on you. |
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14-08-2009, 05:35 PM | #80 | |||
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I have made a point in the past, when I saw an incident of stopping and passing on what I saw happen and also providing my details so if they require a witness, I will stand up and give all the required information. I have been screwed over in the past and dont like to see some scumbag get away with screwing someone else over.
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14-08-2009, 05:41 PM | #81 | |||
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i hope we can be aware that seeing any incident we as respectable citizens can pull over and offer assistance and not assume that someone else will . however it is hard when people leave the scene. please people if it is safe pull over and offer assistance . i've been burnt 2 times now . what hurts the most is the insurance companies and police will not offer any help and are happy to see you humiliated . |
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14-08-2009, 05:51 PM | #82 | |||
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We need too kill them all off, it's the only method that'll work. First of all incase you haven't already take pictures, really I don't know if there's anything you can do, did anything from his truck (like paint chips and all that) deposit on your GT? You can also match up the crash if the truck has any damage. Really it would've been perfect if your wife took a picture of the paint on the trucks wheels. Keep fighting right now it's your word against his and with his attitude you'd have no problem whooping him in small claims.
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14-08-2009, 06:13 PM | #83 | |||
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100's of incidents happen like this daily, what you wrote about paint flakes etc , happens on TV shows like CSI, but not in real life. ( perfect example of this was when i was taken out ina laser by a red commadore ) shotened the laser by 4 feet rear bumper was inside the cabin , and red paint all over it , the commadore driver ran up to me who was unable to get out of the laser, waved witnesses through, pretended to ring an ambulance and done a runner. i was left on the side of the road in the car for a few minutes on a freeway with no one stopping to help. only to crawl out of the passenger window . a policemen aventually came across the scene by chance . an ambulance was called i was bleeding from the back of the head, they told me i'm ok and dont need to go to hospital, left me there with the cop till the tow truck came and the towey gave me a lift home . on the way home a call came over the radio, late model commadore into a pole 5 minutes from the location , i said that would be it it couldnt of been too drivable . the towy said 100,s of red commadores smash every day, when i got home i rang the police regarding this , ask the towy to ring me if he finds out about the depot the red commadore was going too ,told the insurance , rang local panel beaters etc . and could not get any info about that red commadore , and because i had no car , could not do a thing about . it at the end of the day i wore the cost of that written off laser . so much for crime scene investigations . just thought i'd throw another story in about accidents . runners get away more than they get caught against mainstream assumptions . |
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14-08-2009, 06:43 PM | #84 | |||
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14-08-2009, 06:52 PM | #85 | ||
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MATE NO WORRIES. it's just an inconvenience and looks better than ever after the bumper realignment and repair . just cost us our excess and maybe even some bad driving histroy , who knows , we certainly dont !.
it's all over now . i just hope that others get the picture and this can be prevented happeniung to someone else by reading waht does go on daily with accidents , the more education the better the public can prevent . in relative terms its ok compared to what can and does happen . but hopefully awareness helps . cheers . and thanks for the concern . i'm only trying to share what can happen unfortunately. |
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14-08-2009, 07:16 PM | #86 | |||
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Yeah I meant you'd have to prove it yourself, the law doesn't give a rats like you said. Mate was in a crash, some stupid women caused it and denied everything. So He took pictures of damage on both cars, drew up the exact scenario on word/photoshop and replicated the scene as much as he could. He took her to small claims with his "evidence" and the woman had nothing at all and was basically blown away and couldn't justify anything. I'd also think all the effort on my mates behalf would indicate who was the victim here. If you do take it further they'd read what type of person your wife is and what type of person this oxygen thief is, that should also help influence the final outcome. If it's all too much effort for you on something that's not even a guaranteed win then maybe try and get him in trouble through his superiors through work, and cause him a bit of grief.
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mate, ill tell you this
if you were both stationary before commencing turn the the signs on the back of the truck mean jack . if the truck needed more room HE is the one that would need to be more careful. you do NOT have to give way to a truck if both of you are parallel to each other stationary before moving off. truckies have taken the "do not over take turning vehicle" and tried to pass it off as " i can turn how i wish". now the damage to your car is to the front, indicating he has turned into you, not the other way around, unless of course your wife deliberately ran into the truck, which i doubt. so balance of probabilities is in your favour i work for sgic (nrma,sgio,mutual,cgu all part of iag) now usually the case is if their is a dispute for the insurer to ask for written versions from the parties. they will send the other person demand letters, try and call etc etc. the last port of call is a recovery agent, then a summons. the truckie has probably done this before and is playing hardball. now if the other person refuses to contact the insurance company, just tell them they will have to believe your version of events, and if the consulktant still refuses to refund your excess, escalate the complaint about your excess to the senior consultant or team manager. (dont worry it doesnt make you look bad or any advise risk on your policy, unless you start shrieking like a banshee). |
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16-08-2009, 07:44 AM | #88 | |||
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In most cases they get liability wrong anyway. The only thing having the police attend would do is to slow down any claim process (if police attend usually an insurance company will not authorise the claim until BAC is checked out) , And the police may fine one or both drivers for traffic breaches which does not prove liability anyway.
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Here are the 2 relevant sections of the TORUM:
143 Passing or overtaking a vehicle displaying a do not overtake turning vehicle sign (1) A driver must not drive past, or overtake, to the left of a vehicle displaying a do not overtake turning vehicle sign if the vehicle is turning left and is giving a left change of direction signal, unless it is safe to do so. Maximum penalty—20 penalty units. (2) A driver must not drive past, or overtake, to the right of a vehicle displaying a do not overtake turning vehicle sign if the vehicle is turning right, or making a U–turn from the centre of the road, and is giving a right change of direction signal, unless it is safe to do so. Maximum penalty—20 penalty units. Example— A driver driving on a multi-lane road who is turning right at an intersection to which a right turn only sign applies may drive past a vehicle displaying a do not overtake turning vehicle sign that is turning right from another marked lane, and giving a right change of direction signal, if it is safe to do so. (3) In this section— turning right does not include making a hook turn. 32 Starting a right turn from a multi-lane road (1) A driver turning right at an intersection from a multi-lane road must approach and enter the intersection from within the right lane unless— (a) the driver is required or permitted to approach and enter the intersection from within another marked lane in accordance with section 89(1), 92 or 159; or (b) the driver is turning, at B lights or a white traffic arrow, in accordance with part 17, division 2; or (c) subsection (2) applies to the driver. Maximum penalty—20 penalty units. Example 1 Starting a right turn from a road with a dividing line Example 2 Starting a right turn from a one-way road s 32 33 s 32 Transport Operations (Road Use Management—Road Rules) Regulation 1999 Example for subsection (1)(a)— (2) A driver may approach and enter the intersection from the marked lane next to the right lane as well as, or instead of, the right lane if— (a) the driver’s vehicle, together with any load or projection, is 7.5m long, or longer; and (b) the vehicle displays a do not overtake turning vehicle sign; and (c) any part of the vehicle is within 50m of the nearest point of the intersection; and (d) it is not practicable for the driver to turn right from within the right lane; and (e) the driver can safely occupy the next marked lane and can safely turn right at the intersection by occupying the next marked lane, or both lanes. (3) In this section— marked lane, for a driver, does not include a special purpose lane in which the driver is not permitted to drive. Starting a right turn on a multi-lane road with traffic lane arrows as required or permitted under section 92 s 33 34 s 33 Transport Operations (Road Use Management—Road Rules) Regulation 1999 right lane means— (a) the marked lane nearest to the dividing line or median strip on the road; or (b) if there is an obstruction (for example, a parked car or roadworks) in that marked lane—the marked lane nearest to that marked lane that is not obstructed. Examples of do not overtake turning vehicle signs—
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They have to allow time for letters to be answered and under the debt collection guidelines cannot harrass a third party. It does take time. I assure you they are not being slack, its just they are used to the length of time recoveries can take so it does not suprise them. This is yet another reason why people who don't have insurance should
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