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Old 19-05-2014, 05:38 AM   #61
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Wow it is difficult to convince someone that they should not buy a car. It is totally a buyers market and there are plenty more cars out there. Just cause the sticker price is higher on others doesnt mean you cant make an offer. Most people are just looking for more than what a dealer offered them as trade in.
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Old 19-05-2014, 06:22 AM   #62
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^^^yeah give it another couple of weeks and the seller might be more happy to do the deal your way, if not there's plenty more fish in the sea
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Old 19-05-2014, 07:58 AM   #63
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I have seen that XR8, however i really am looking for a 6 speed. I'd rather have a 6 cyl 6 speed than an 8 with the 5 speed. I am happy to be patient and wait a bit, but what I'm looking for doesn't come around all that often. Saw another one today that had tiny tiny rust spots under the fuel filler, will be staying away from that one too i think.

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Think you will find alot of them with rust near the fuel filler. Maybe see if you can stretch the budget for a fg.
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Old 19-05-2014, 10:37 AM   #64
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Why would you rather the 6 speed? Is there any real benefit? Or just a " i have a 6 speed"? I know i would much rather a well maintained and well kept 5 speed, over a neglected 6 speed. Mate at work has a 5 speed BA XR6, only gets into 4th in town. Not to mention the extra costs if/when it goes bang

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Seeing those pictures I think you could do better. These cars are a dime a dozen. Despite the low km, the long drive for a start is a turn off. Had you said it was immaculate, it may be worth pursuing but with these pics, nah I'd walk too.
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Old 19-05-2014, 11:35 AM   #66
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Walk Away. Too much mucking about for something in poor condition.
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Old 19-05-2014, 12:52 PM   #67
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The boot lid has rusted because the spoiler has probably come loose and allowed moisture to get to the holes where the spoiler is attached.

Silvers and greys are the worst colours for paint degradation so if it has lived outside it will show that sort of paint wear.

Personally I would hold off, not just because of the condition or the finance concerns individually, but the combination of the two.
Its cheap for a reason.

More will come up, just wait and top up your savings for something ready to go.
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Old 19-05-2014, 05:47 PM   #68
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The 6 speed box is a much better box, better ratios and a much bette design. The old T5 is a clunky old thing that while I agree a well maintained one of those would be better than a neglected 6 speed, I would much rather hold out to get a T56. Just my preference guys having worked on a lot of these boxes over the years.

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Old 19-05-2014, 05:58 PM   #69
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I appreciate all the peoples responses where they haven't felt the need to berate me. I was really after some constructive feedback and I have a lot thankyou. I'm not trying to be talked into or out of buying these cars, I haven't bought any of the he ones we talked about, but if I play devils advocate it provokes a better debate.

I will continue looking around and hopefully something will pop up! If you know of any please let me know

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I appreciate all the peoples responses where they haven't felt the need to berate me. I was really after some constructive feedback and I have a lot thankyou. I'm not trying to be talked into or out of buying these cars, I haven't bought any of the he ones we talked about, but if I play devils advocate it provokes a better debate.

I will continue looking around and hopefully something will pop up! If you know of any please let me know

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No worries mate and good luck with the hunt, when you do find one put it up so we can pick the **** out of it again.
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No worries mate and good luck with the hunt, when you do find one put it up so we can pick the **** out of it again.
Haha sounds like a deal
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Old 19-05-2014, 08:43 PM   #72
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Just thought I'd add, my BF mkII has 225,000kms on it and was a fleet car for a long time, so it was most likely abused a fair bit, but the paint work shows no signs of deteriorating at all, so for a car with a fraction of the kms to have that sort of deterioration, something's not right.
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So the finance won't be an issue, they have agreed to come up to Perth and we can do a direct deposit into the loan account and close the loan together, they don't have a problem with that at all. However ... now i have seen the car I was hoping you guys could give me some advice on what it would cost to fix a few things wrong with this car. Just a bit of sun fade on the clear coat and a bit of rust at the spoiler. The clear coat has started to come off on the rear quarter a little and just starting to haze on the bonnet and boot. Its a BF MkII XR6 in Ego with 87000km on the clock. Its the 6 speed manual and drives really nice, just the body stuff. They want $9500 but said they'd do 9. It is pretty cheap but they only have done 4000km in 18 months so its sat a lot hence the paint damage. How much do you think to fix the paint and what do you reckon of the deal. Thanks so much guys, very much appreciate the responses!

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Old 21-05-2014, 01:45 AM   #74
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Yeah a WALK. I know how hard it is when your hearts settled on a car and you just want it. You'll justify anything....but that's just not the car for you....or anyone. Paint is expensive to fix as your doing whole panels.....and then you've got new paint next to old paint. You'll hate it. Look for a mint car you can fall in love with
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I'll reiterate my comments on a more serious level.
If I were you I'd be patient and find a nicer example. A close friend bought a very similar car for $3K last year - the only fault was damaged diff bushes and the mechanic charged him less than $800 to repair (so the car cost him ~$4K all up).
You will find a better deal mate. "Plenty of fish in the sea" does apply here, it's a buyer's market.
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The 6 speed box is a much better box, better ratios and a much bette design. The old T5 is a clunky old thing that while I agree a well maintained one of those would be better than a neglected 6 speed, I would much rather hold out to get a T56. Just my preference guys having worked on a lot of these boxes over the years.

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Although the 6 speed is stronger it is a busted **** box to use,i have one in my xr8,im sick of it,the rollover noise,crunching and backlash through these ford manual drivelines is bloody shocking...
Im buying an auto turbo and selling my 6 speed xr8 lol,ford can bash their manual gearboxes haha
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The bootlid looks repaired and repainted, by the look at the photo.
no, no it doesn't
what you see in that photo is the standard rust that occurs because Ford can't properly seal the bolt holes for the spoiler.
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i sold my car with money owning, basically they paid out the loan plus some extra for me and then i gave them the car, after a week i got a letter saying there is no money owing on it and forwarded it on to the new owner
easy....just make a bank cheque out to the finance company, go to the bank with the owner, hand in the cheque and get a receipt, drive home in your new car.
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No worries mate and good luck with the hunt, when you do find one put it up so we can pick the **** out of it again.
Hey guys, so I may have found a car! So I decided I wouldn't go for an XR8 as in not convinced the aging BOSS motor is worth is weight in much, and while I would be happy in a 6 I wouldn't mind a bit more power ... So I have been looking round at the XR6T's.

I have found a BAII, as much as I would love it to the funds won't stretch to a BFII with the typhoon internals. So my question is ... Is anyone there gonna talk me out of a BAII (or pick the **** out of it again haha)? What were their main issues. It's a 2005 with the 6 speed manual and has a XR8 bonnet and BF bumper. I'm taking it for a drive tmrw night but thought I'd get everyone's take on the BAII's. It's done 108000km too.

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BAII XR6t's are fine, like any car just check the condition, service history etc.

They're getting pretty long in the tooth now, chances are the diff bushes will need replacement, check brakes, clutch and interior wear.
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BAII XR6t's are fine, like any car just check the condition, service history etc.

They're getting pretty long in the tooth now, chances are the diff bushes will need replacement, check brakes, clutch and interior wear.
clutch is 10,000km old, bushes have all been swapped out for nolathane ones, brakes i don't know but will probably upgrade em anyway. And yeah I'll check interior.

Is it a huge issue that the BAII's don't have the upgraded internals the late BF has?

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how much is it?

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how much is it?

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I can get it for 11k, and no engine mods which is what I want, low km, 19" typhoon rims brand new paint (he wanted the xr8 bonnet n bf bumper and they had to be painted n had paint fade on the spoiler so he got the whole car done). It's a BA II a 2005 with the 6 speed manual n only 108,000km its in the mid range of what ppl are asking for a good cond one.
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It seems every ba/f in this price range has that spot rust forming in the panel lap joint in the boot, people seem to get this fixed regularly, any one had any experience with the costs involved getting that small section cut out?

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It seems every ba/f in this price range has that spot rust forming in the panel lap joint in the boot, people seem to get this fixed regularly, any one had any experience with the costs involved getting that small section cut out?

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no, no it doesn't
what you see in that photo is the standard rust that occurs because Ford can't properly seal the bolt holes for the spoiler.
ive owned 4 BA/BFs and none of them had rust near the boot spoiler.
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Of the B-series ive owned I have never seen rust like that and I keep mine outside 80% of the time. Only common rust places Ive found is in the boot seals (water doesn't drain if you park on an angle) and in the welds of the A pillar
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we're talking about a different car now, i have committed to buying an XR6T, has a small amount of rust around that boot seal which i will be getting fixed properly by a rust repairer. The car is pretty nice
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hope your happy with the purchase. Looks good from here
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